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Published on March 3rd, 2023 | by Madhudvisa dasa

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Abortion. No–It’s A Child!!

Nowadays there is very little regard for the life of a child within the womb of the mother. Most people are concerned about their own pleasure.

Many want the right to have sex with anyone and then kill the child resulting from that sex life. Therefore so many young children are being murdered under the name of abortion.

We come into this world completely dependent on our parents. Without the help of our mother we can’t even get food. This complete dependence of a newborn child puts the mother and father in a very responsible position. The parents provide the first impressions which are important in the development of the child’s character.

The influence of the parents on the child doesn’t start with birth, it starts at the time of conception. In the Vedic times there was a ceremony which was performed before the mother and father united to conceive the child. This was called the garbhadhana-samskara or the “seed giving ceremony”. The purpose of this samskara, samskara means “purifying process”, was to situate the minds of the parents in spiritual consciousness before they engaged in sex life to beget the child. This is because the consciousness of the mother and father at the time of their union determines the consciousness of the child.

It is very important, if we want to have good children, that the mentality of the parents at the time of union is Godly. Otherwise, if they are simply driven by lust and having sex for their enjoyment only, any child born as a result of such lusty sexual intercourse is actually unwanted. The parents are not having sex to beget a child, they are just having sex to satisfy themselves. Children resulting from such lusty activities are called varna-sankara, “unwanted children”.

In the world at the present time almost nobody is interested in religious principles therefore they are almost all having sex for enjoyment only, so now most of the children being born are “unwanted children”. This has created a hellish world. It has created a situation where the mothers and fathers no longer care about their children. Now the parents are quite happy to kill their children in the womb.

It’s quite clear the child enters the womb at the time of conception. With the aid of modern science we can actually see the child starts to develop from the very moment of conception. Even before science gave us ultrasound the Vedic scriptures described that at the time of conception the fathers semen and the mothers discharge emulsify into a pea like form which grows day by day. It is described that first seven holes develop and these holes gradually become the different senses; the mouth, the eyes, the nose, the ears, the genitals and the rectum. These are the seven holes in the body. So from the pea shaped form the child develops seven holes and gradually these holes develop into the senses and in this way the body of the child is formed. At the time of seven months the child becomes conscious within the womb of the mother. He can actually think and perceive his surroundings and the mother can fell the child developing within her womb.

We can only know the thoughts of the child in the womb from the Vedic scriptures because we can’t remember our stay in the womb. It is described that when the child becomes conscious in the womb at the seven month point he is aware of his surroundings and he is even aware of where he came from, he knows what happened before and if he is pious he knows about God also. So he prays to God, because he can remember his previous births, he knows he suffered in the past, and he knows he is back within the womb of another mother because he forgot God. This is a very important point, the child is completely aware of why he came into the womb.

The mother’s womb, contrary to some popular opinions, is not a comfortable place. Sometimes people in the West have a very rosy idea of the situation of the child within the womb of the mother but it is actually a very uncomfortable position. The child has on one side the mothers digestive fluids and if the mother eats anything disturbing the child suffers. So on one side he is suffering from the burning of the gastric fluids of the mother’s stomach. On the other side there are obnoxious substances like stool and urine and all sorts of germs and even worms which take are very disturbing to the child’s delicate body.

The Pious Child Prays to God in the Womb

So the child suffers like anything in the mother’s womb. He knows he is suffering and he knows why he is suffering, he knows his previous life, he knows everything. If he is pious he prays to God, “Please God get me out of this position, I don’t want to have to take birth again in the material world. If I have to take birth then please don’t let me forget You.” This is the situation of the child in the womb. The time of birth is intensely painful for the child. When he is being forced out of the mother’s womb he has to come through a small space and it is very painful. As a result of the pain and the comparatively comfortable position outside the womb the child forgets everything after his birth.

The child comes from an extremely hellish condition within the womb to a relatively comfortable position outside so he forgets his suffering in the womb. As soon as we are born we forget everything in the past, we can’t remember the womb nor can we remember our previous lives. This is a trick of the material energy.

We’ve Done it All Before

We have done all the things we are doing in this life before in many lives and, although everything has always ended in frustration, we think this time will be different. We have already tried in so many ways to enjoy this material world and have been frustrated, if by nothing else, by old age, disease and death. All our endeavors were useless. It is the mercy of maya, the material energy, which enables us to forget everything in the past and take birth again to have another go at enjoying in this world.

Our life here in the material world is described as being like chewing something which has already been chewed. If you take some sugar cane and chew on it you can enjoy a sweet taste, but if you discard the chewed sugar cane on the street and another person comes along and chews the same sugar cane he can’t get the sweet taste. The juice has already been extracted. This material world is compared to the sugar cane that has already been chewed. The sweet taste we are looking for is not here in the material world. But we are trying to find that sweetness. We think if we engage in sex life, if we get money, a beautiful woman, a nice house, a beautiful car, if I become a big man in the world, then I will be happy. But there is no real pleasure in these things — it’s simply like chewing sugar cane that has already been chewed by someone else.

So the child comes out of the womb and at this time the parents have the responsibility to help the child revive his God consciousness. That’s why we are here in the material world. We have come here by our own choice, we have rebelled against the orders of God, and we have come here with the idea of enjoying separately from God. But this material world is constructed in such a way as to frustrate all of our attempts.

bahunam janmanam ante
jnanavan mam prapadyate
vasudevah sarvam iti
sa mahatma sudurlabhah

“After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me [God, Krishna], knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare.” (Bg. 7.19) This is the thoughtful persons conclusion.

Children Are Brainwashed From Birth…

It is the responsibility of the parents to awaken this God consciousness in their children but instead we have created a society that presents the children with the material illusion from day one. There is no spiritual knowledge. From birth the child’s bodily identification is reinforced by the parents. They immediately expose their child to so much material brainwashing. Immediately he is sitting down in front of the television and is being contaminated with so many material desires.

The desire to enjoy separately from God is being reinforced at every step of our lives. Everywhere we go we are encouraged, “You should do this to enjoy for yourself.” You can look in any publication except our Back to Godhead magazine and you will find it is simply, in one way or another, encouraging people to enjoy separately from God. Even the so-called spiritual groups, even the Christian church is encouraging, “You want something? Then come here and pray to God for it.” This is also the enjoying spirit, it’s not the real mood of a servant of God. The real mood of a servant of God is he wants to please God, he wants to do something for the pleasure of God. This mood should be cultivated within the children born into this world. This is the responsibility parents have to their children.

Today there is no regard for the life of the child…

In this age there is no regard for the life of the child within the womb of the mother. What is paramount in this age is “my pleasure”. The women have become very militant and have formed the feminist movement which has as one of its principal aims the woman’s right to “control her own reproductive system”. This means women should have the right to go anywhere, have sex with any man and then kill the child resulting from that sex life. This is our society. This is our “civilization”. As a result so many young children are being murdered under the name of abortion.

Everybody knows it’s a child within the womb of the mother, everybody knows it’s a human being, everybody knows that human being is capable of contributing so much to this world. We were all in that position, within the wombs of our mothers, and we could have been killed by our mothers but by their mercy they didn’t kill us, they allowed us to take birth.

Our mothers underwent difficulties — it’s a great austerity in many ways for a mother and father to bring a child into this world and to raise that child. It’s not an easy thing to raise a family in this age but it is a very valuable service if one can raise children as devotees of God. This is the purpose of married life; to bring nice God conscious children into the words and give them a good upbringing so they develop their love for God, re-establish their relationship with God. It’s the responsibility of the parents to see their children will not have to again enter the womb of another mother. In other words the children should be trained to go back home, back to Godhead, after this life.

The spiritual world is real

The spiritual world is real — there is a spiritual world.

paras tasmat tu bhavo ‘nyo
‘vyakto ‘vyaktat sanatanah
yah so sarvesu bhutesu
nasyaatsu na vinasyati (Bg. 8.20)

This means beyond this material sky there is the spiritual sky and in the spiritual sky everything we see here is also there but there it is the original pure spiritual form and here what we see is simply a perverted reflection.

So we are seeing a reflection of the spiritual world in this material world. We can see the reflection of a tree in the water. In one sense the reflection of the tree is real but if the tree is producing some very nice fruit, say it is the reflection of a mango tree. If you see the reflection of a mango in the water, although you can say it is a mango, it’s not exactly the same as the real mango in the tree. You can see it’s a mango, it looks like a mango, you can’t tell the difference. But you try and taste it. You go and grab it and try to eat it in the reflection — all that happens is you get a handful of water, that’s all, there is actually nothing there, the real substance in not there. Similarly we see in this material world a reflection of the spiritual world. Here we have the idea of love between a man and a woman and we have the idea of pleasure in sex life but in reality the pleasure we experience is no more real than the handful of water we get when trying to enjoy the reflected mango. The actual substance, the actual bliss, the spiritual pleasure we are looking for is in the spiritual world, it’s not here in the material world.

This material world is something like a mirage. If you look in the desert sometimes you will see a very big expanse of water. If you are a thoughtful person you can understand in the desert there is no big expanse of water, even though there appears to be one. You can understand, “What I am seeing is just a trick of my eyes.” But if you are not so intelligent and you are very thirsty and you see this huge expanse of water in the desert maybe you will run towards the water, what you are actually doing is running further and further into the desert. Your chance of surviving is becoming smaller and smaller because you are running towards the center of the desert.

Similarly the pleasure we see in the material world, the pleasure we think we will get from a beautiful women, the pleasure we think we will get from a big, important position, the pleasure we think we will get from having a new car or a holiday on some exotic island. This pleasure is just like the pleasure we don’t get by trying to enjoy the mango reflected in the water or searching for water in the desert. This is the nature of the material world.

We Have to Turn Our Attention to the Real World, the Spiritual World

We have to turn our attention to the real world, the spiritual world, the place where Krishna is. We have to change our consciousness so we are always thinking about the spiritual world, we are always thinking about Krishna. All our activities should be performed for the pleasure of Krishna. In this way our life will become spiritualized and even here in the material world we can enjoy real transcendental pleasure. A devotee is not looking for anything, he is not desiring even spiritual pleasure. The devotee says, “My dear Lord, I simply want to please You. If You want something which is like poison to me I will accept that as being nectar but if something I think is nectar is displeasing to You I will reject that thing as poison.” This should be our mood. We should see what Krishna likes and we should accept providing Him with this as the highest pleasure even if it seems unpalatable to us.

Many times we have seen great devotees do things which are very difficult, for example Lord Jesus Christ was completely surrendered to the will of his Father and he was even prepared to be crucified, to be killed, because it was the will of his Father. From the material point of view this is not a very nice thing but he accepted it because it was God’s will. He didn’t actually suffer, of course his body suffered, but he was serving God and there is great spiritual bliss coming from this service. We have also seen in India many great devotees of the Lord who have undergone so much suffering but they have continued to serve God regardless.

There Will be Many Difficulties…

As devotees we are trying to establish God consciousness within this material world therefore naturally we will be put into so many difficulties, that is the nature of this world. This world is full of people who have almost all rejected God and the whole background of the material world is to enable us to forget God. The whole world is such a phantasmagoria, such a big show, and the purpose of this big show is simply to bewilder us into thinking, “I can be happy here separately from God.” There is no other purpose for the material world. So when we try and preach about God, when we try to established God consciousness within the world we will naturally face many difficulties.

My spiritual master, His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, when his disciples were facing great difficulties in spreading Krishna consciousness and distributing his books, said not to worry and that these difficulties were a sign that our preaching is pure. So we shouldn’t be concerned if there are difficulties on the path of spiritual life, rather we should be concerned if there are no difficulties. If life is very easy, if things are going on very smoothly we should know our preaching is not very potent.

Many people like to have a very comfortable arrangement in spiritual life. Going to church on Sundays, meeting all their friends and having a nice social chat. There is no difficulty for these people, their spiritual life, so called, goes on very easily. My humble request is that these people who are having a very easy going spiritual life should question in their heart, “Why?” In Krishna consciousness we say, “You’re in maya.Maya means “that which is not”. You have accepted this material world as being a comfortable place so you are sleeping in the lap of maya. So now is the time to wake up and serve Krishna.

Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

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About the Author

My first contact with a Hare Krishna was a most merciful Mataji in Oxford Street, London who sold me a "Higher Taste" cook book in 1984 while I was on holidays there. I started seriously reading Srila Prabhupada's books in Australia 1985 and by 1986 Srila Prabhupada had convinced me "Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead" and "we should surrender to Krishna." I joined the Hare Krishnas in Perth, Western Australia in 1986. Since then I have been chanting Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, reading and distributing Srila Prabhupada's books and preaching as much as I can. That's my life and full-time occupation now really. I like it more than anything I've ever experienced before. Srila Prabhupada's books are so amazing... Even after reading them all many times they're still fresh and new. They are truly transcendental! That's it really. Now I'm just hankering to once again see the world chant Hare Krishna, dance and feast and float away in the ecstasy of Lord Caitanya's Sankirtana movement as it did in Srila Prabhupada's physical presence. Let the whole world drown in the ecstatic flood of love of Krishna!



14 Responses to Abortion. No–It’s A Child!!

  1. Anon says:

    What did Srila Prabhupada say about Garbadhana Samskar for devotees? Garbadhana Samskar isn’t performed in Kali-yuga, so what instruction did Srila Prabhupada give for his disciples?

  2. Guddu Bagchi says:

    i was seriously disturbed and suffering severe depression for quite a long time
    i came to read these articals accidentally
    even though its difficult for me to understand everything
    but i dont know there is something special in the words of these articals
    which is making the pain in me release and go gradually
    its strange…but true

    • Avijeet says:

      I asked a Stanford scientist why an undifferentiated mass of cells in the zygote suddenly starts differentiating resulting in the first organ, the neural plate, because our human body exists due specialization of cells resulting from cell differentiation, else it will be a giant mass of cells…Is it gravity? Is it the proximity to certain parts of mother’s uterus?….He could not answer. He said they do not bother with such questions, because the funding organization would not like to waste money on such philosophical questions….

      ….The fact is that some wise man had said…in this material world..the physics can only answer how of the things…not the ultimate why….our measurements are limited by the speed of light…so, we will never be able to measure the ultimate truth…we can only speculate using probability and statistics…two greatest pseudo knowledge….what could be the range of possibilities of ultimate truth.

      ….If we have to know the ultimate truth, then it just can not be the physics, the foundation of all material sciences, because physics has reached its limit of experimentally verifiable truth, and succumbed to the speculative tools of probability and statistics for generating innumerable theories…

      Regards
      –Avijeet

  3. vishti says:

    Dear all. I fully agree with Ian Smart! Abortion is not a sinful deed if it is being done for the right reasons. Hinduism is one of the most sexist religions in the world, and shuns woman at every angle possible! What if a woman was raped! What if she made a mistake? What’s a sin, is bringing that child into the world knowing that you cannot give him or her the right upbringing with the love and support of two parents!That is what’s called contributing to a sinful society! And the process of abortion is a painful one by the way. And from the way you describe the life of the unborn child in the womb, it is clear that you have very limited knowledge of the scientific world, and speak without knowing your facts, as a result, you should not be putting up comments on this blog. You’re sending out the wrong impression, and it is ultimately people like you who are the biggest contributors of sin in this world. I suggest you give your article some serious thought, and then try actually looking at it from a Krsna conscious point of view!
    Regards
    Vishti

    • Hare Krishna Vishti

      You can not murder a child for any reason at all. If she was raped still there is a child living within her womb and she can not kill that child. She can give birth and put the child up for adoption but she can not kill the child without committing a huge sin for which she will have to suffer greatly for.

      As far as if she made a mistake then that does not give her the right to kill a child either. What if I make a mistake so then I think I can kill you? What would you think of that?

      So murdering children is not allowed in any circumstances.

      The Vedic culture is that women should be protected. In their childhood they will be protected by their father, he then gives his daughter in charity to a suitable boy who will be her husband and he will protect her and she will serve him.

      That is the business of the women, to serve their husbands. And the business of the men is to protect and support their wife and other family members. This is civilization. In this position a women can be happy. She has her husband and her family and she is protected.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      • Chad says:

        I would also like to add this for everyone’s consideration: infanticide, which one may easily consider to be a greater sin than abortion, has been a normal part of human history since the beginning of time. Primitive peoples had no time or energy to care and provision for children born with defects. There is a big difference between “what feels good” and “what is good”. For example, it is will documented, scientifically, than human DNA is in a state of devolution, because the pressures of natural selection have been removed by civilization, and this is ever increasing the amount of genetic defects in human DNA, and making us all dumber and more sickly with every generation (see Crabtree, et al). So, by doing what we “feel is good”, we are destroying ourselves. And this can’t be argued.

        Another example would be a baby born blind. It is well known that blind people are terrified with endless nightmares generally, never having any vision in their dreams. It is possible that this is laying the foundation for their journey into the next life. So, by feeling “compassionate” by keeping those born blind alive, we may well be creating abominations beyond anything imaginable, eg, an eternity in a nightmarish hell, so to speak.

        Wisdom and truth is not always “what feels good”, and sometimes, “what is good” does not feel good at all. Feelings are not the alpha + omega, they are not the beginning and end of virtue.

        • Hare Krishna Chad

          People take their birth according to their past Karma. If someone is born blind he has to be born blind because of the sinful activities he has committed in the past. If you murder him because he is blind that does not save him from suffering. That implicates you in the great sin of murder and you have to suffer dreadfully for that and he misses the opportunity to take birth and work out his karma and he is force to suffer terribly because he has to be put into the womb of another mother to take birth again, again blind, so you have caused him so much suffering.

          You do not have the authority to be the judge and executioner. Deciding who should live and who should die. No. You have no right. And if you do murder people because you think they should not live then you are committing such terrible sins and you will suffer terribly because of that.

          Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

          Madhudvisa dasa

    • Guddu says:

      this particular comment by vishty reminds me of the present crisis India is running thru

      a proverb is there “a thief commits thefty and then runs away ….but as soon as caught then shouts loudly to proove that he is stealing for good reason ”
      whole india is now filled with such demonic persons who do mistakes to enjoy sex and then do abortion to give themselves a good reputation in society
      just like the thief in the proverb

      i myself quite aware of such brutal child murder in the name of abortion…in India
      the condition of the child in the womb of the mother as described in the above artical described is very much scientific and only a mad gynechologist can claim it wrong who has no licence..in this field
      …. i challenge those ones who can proove it wrong !!!

      • Guddu says:

        those gynechologists who are beginners i admit…that they may not go into such depths of scientific knowledge as described in the above artical….as they are concerned superficially more on the embryo and the chord

        its not their fault anyhow…..they can better practice as an intern under experienced ones….and then claim their knowledge
        hv a good day

  4. Dear prabhus. Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada, all glories to Lord Jesus Christ and all Perfect Sons of God, all glories to assembled devotees, all glories to Harinam Sankirtan. Krishna! Let’s keep Harinam Sankirtan alive & well as it used to be…chill with the infighting at least for the time & let’s make a strong public showing as we did 30 years ago (can you believe it was THAT long ago?) People need to hear the Names of The Lord chanted publicly as was the prescription given by Lord Caitanya, and in fact my experience is when we do this, the favorite example being the world-famous Times Square, the folks walking by just love it! Prabhupada said “Even if you joke with us…Hare Krishna! Hare Krishna! — you take some benefit.”

    Getting on to the abortion thing…Wanna know the real sad thing about this whole abortion issue?

    The sad thing is people who at least strive to be just plain, generic decent “Joe”‘s & “Jane”‘s are being so brainwashed by the demons in power. I even heard someone say that if abortion is performed immediately when a woman realizes she’s pregnant (and that obviously would be one month after “unprotected” sexual intercourse) — it’s not really an abortion: it’s a procedure performed BEFORE it becomes an abortion. This is denial, and it’s amazing how people buy right into it, much as the term “collateral damage” was used by a former president when referring to the murder of thousands of human beings to dumb us down like war was some kind of video game.

    An incident happened years ago, and perhaps it’ll bring this whole denial thing to the foreground: a neighbor of mine, with whom I’d developed a friendship and so then someone with whom I chatted from time to time had just came back from a Pro-Choice Rally. She remarked to me, “Raj, you’re pro-choice, of course.” “No, I’m not.” was my reply. “This is murder, plain and simple, and as a person raised in a religious home as you’ve told me you were, how can you not see that?” And I thought, well, that ends the matter. She feels like this/I feel like that, and no sense in going any further; I’d said what I felt Krishna would have me say to provide food for thought to my friend, thereby I did my duty to the best of my ability to so do.

    Wrong.

    My friend would not let GO of it! Even at my request to just end the discussion and respect each other’s viewpoint she wouldn’t let up. Finally I just threw up my hands and just offered the ol’ Bob Dylan one-liner of “you’re right from your side & I’m right from mine…” ’cause I could see that this just wasn’t gonna end on a peaceful note.

    I guess the point I’m hoping to make, dear prabhus, is not that “Oh! Ain’t it awful! We’re such aspiring devotees & champions of doing the right thing and avoiding sinful activity–and these brainwashed sheeple need to snap out of the brainwashing put on them by the asuras!”

    The point is that there’s a note of encouragement for all of us: more and more young people are beginning to realize that something in this society is very wrong–morally wrong, and slowly however surely they’re beginning to rally and demonstrate.

    There’s a Conscious Hip-Hop singer (yes, there is such a thing as conscious and spiritual hip-hop) by the name of Seti-Amun-Ra-Jakada. He’s got a CD out, which may be gotten on the site “CDBaby”, and one of the songs is “Why’s My Mama Tryna Kill Me?” The song is about the horrors of abortion–and although Seti gets a little colorful in his language, still the point is strongly made. As the Vedas would posit, “Compromise and flattery have no place where sharp words are required.”

    yerfren & us,

    bhakta raj prabhu Das

  5. Ian Smart says:

    Dear Respected Prabhu

    You say…

    “Nowadays there is very little regard for the life of a child within the womb of the mother. Most people are concerned about their own pleasure. Many want the right to have sex with anyone and then kill the child resulting from that sex life. Therefore so many young children are being murdered under the name of abortion”.

    In my lieftime (I am 56 years old), I have spoken deeply with three women friends who had abortions. I can tell you that your statement is not accurate and is callous in the extreme. Each woman experienced severe regret and distress after the event and all are deeply affected many years later. The catholic church offers facilities and support for women who are pregnant to see their pregnancy through to term, if they will not be able to support a child. This seems to me a much more compassionate approach. No women wants to murder children. To say that nowadays there is very little regard for the life of the child in the womb is ridiculous and frankly you should be ashamed. This is ideology prabhu and not compassion. John Lennon wrote ‘Life is what’s happening while you are busy making other plans’. Ask yourself whether that applies to your life. Please dont pretend you are in complete control of your senses. Yes, there is unfortunately a culture of sex for sale and some people are sex addicts – but the majority of unwanted pregnancies arise from people seeking warmth in each other. Have you never sought warmth from another? Please think of positive things to say. What you have written is hurtful and doesnt help anyone except yourself. Please be reflective. What you have said may make you feel good and pure and sure in yourself, but it is abominable. I request you to do something positive for women who face this awful predicament.

    Your well wisher
    Ian Smart

    • Dear Ian,

      I year ya loud & clear, prabhu. I’m a newbie on this chat thing, and I pray my comments didn’t wax as judgmental. Heaven knows I’ve got my own character defects to heal, and there’s a whole lot of ’em, trust me. I think what I was trying to get across was that as devotees we certainly should not sit in judgment of others, however our stand on pro-life is not to be watered down with compromise. And, yeah, my singer friend has come on quite strong in his lyrics. It would seem, I think for what my thinking is worth, that, yes, we are to be compassionate and not strictly legal-beagles as were the pharisees of biblical times. That doesn’t mean that the horror of abortion are to be soft-pedaled, and I mean that people need to get their OWN compassion ignited and wake up and see what is actually taking place when a fetus is aborted.

      I’m aware of the fine work the Catholic Church is doing to help girls and women who had abortions and are now feeling guilty; and other denominations are pitching in as well. Praise be unto these loving and compassionate souls. And, yes Ian: we ALL need compassion. Want to hear my own horror story? –and maybe this will bring things into focus so you don’t feel I’m just another holy of holies guy: Back in the wild & crazy “drugs, sex, and rock & roll days” my then-wife became pregnant with a person who would have been our 2nd child; I say “person who…” and not “WHAT would have been…”
      Bottom line is she badgered and badgered me into letting her have an abortion on the strength of my company insurance (which covered our family), and I finally gave in, even though I well-knew in my heart of hearts that this was wrong; I had just gotten weary of the constant arguing–like the neighbor in my other post, my wife simply would not let this matter go until she’d gotten her way–and finally she did; she wore me down until I gave the thing a nay–albeit with all the reluctance I had within.

      Our marriage began to go downhill in leaps and bounds after she had the abortion, and finally it ended on a very sour note. Seeing that she and I were also hardcore drug addicts, as in heroin, our one child was raised in foster-care, and it’s only by Krishna’s mercy, understanding, and grace that 21 years ago I was able to overcome my intoxication habit and try to become some kind of parent to my kid. As for the abortion my then-wife had in 1972 (she left her body in 1997)…prabhu, I’m still in the process of trying to forgive myself and have the trust in God that He’s forgiven me. And I think this is the point you’re making prabhu: we’re all fallen, we’re all under Maya’s influence–and as Kali Yuga moves forward it’s only going to get worse.

      All the more reason that we as devotees have to cultivate more compassion. The Lord cannot free us from the consequences of our actions, however He certainly can and will remove some if not all of our bad karma if we’re sincerely sorry for our behavior and do the best we can to demonstrate that in the actions we take moving forward. Helping others so-afflicted and sharing our own experiences on the matter of abortion (as I did with you) would be one way–devotional service at its finest.

      yours in the spirit of devotional service, love for God, and all living entities.

      brpD

    • Jay says:

      Hi,

      Sorry to sound critical but from your comment

      What I’ve understood is ,The women seemingly felt bad after the abortion. Well, they just killed a foetus. Feeling Sad is nothing compared to Murder. And also suggested are some things that Catholic Churches do after abortion. One the best advises should be to basically NOT perform abortion. . Killing someone and feeling sorry bout it later. Doesnt make sense. Ofcourse to people who dont know and are just ignorant, we have to preach them about the ills. that is what Madhudvisa Prabhu is doing.

      “Nowadays there is very little regard for the life of a child within the womb of the mother. Most people are concerned about their own pleasure. Many want the right to have sex with anyone and then kill the child resulting from that sex life. Therefore so many young children are being murdered under the name of abortion”

      He’s trying to say that instead of mindlessly engaging in sense grtification and not caring about results, we try to, act intelligently and avoid them. He’s mentioning just a general scenario and not all scenarios where conception is forced etc. Even forced, there is no right to kill. People are running after sense gratification and not caring for the result. Atleast in the place where I live. Ignorance is one thing but knowing the philosophy And the science, some people still do so. We cannot damage a highly fortunate chance of a human birth for a soul. And For people speaking of “women’s rights”. If the aborted child i s female, what then. Killing is not about rights, sorry.

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