Science Scientific Monkey

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Evolution from Scientist to Monkey

Darwin’s theory of evolution
Scientists and atheists are very fond of Charles Darwin’s work on natural selection and evolution of the species. It was only after Darwin’s theory of evolution became widely accepted that the scientific community had a reasonably plausible explanation of the development of the diverse forms of life we see around us without any divine direction or intelligence behind it. His work was quickly accepted by all atheistic men and practically it is the support of the modern godless technological world. However evolution is still only a theory and although it parallels the evolution of consciousness described in the Vedas, the idea that material bodies evolve into different species by the process of ‘natural selection’ driven by chance is completely false.

We have never seen one species turn into another species and there is no evidence for this ever happening in the fossil record. That is because there are 8,400,000 species of life and these species are fixed. It is the consciousness of the particular living entity, spirit soul, at the time of death, or the time he leaves the body, that determines the type of body he will be placed into in his next birth.

So it is the living entities who’s consciousness is either evolving or devolving and who change from one body to another. But the 8,400,000 species of life remain constant. Ultimately the whole material world with all its universes containing unlimited planets and stars will be annihilated however the patterns of these 8,400,000 species of living entities will remain stored and when the material world again becomes manifest the exact same 8,400,000 species will again become manifest. They are never ‘evolved’ and there is no chance or natural selection in the process.

Of course in the beginning of the creation the whole surface of the planet is covered with water. So initially only the aquatic living entities are able to take birth. But as the water drys up and the land starts to come out the insects and plants and animals and man also become manifest.

The exact process of how the planets of the universe are populated with living entities is described elaborately in the Srimad Bhagavatam and for further details on this process I strongly recommend you study the Srimad Bhagavatam. You will find that this ancient Sanskrit text from India is full of astonishingly correct scientific information.

So although there is an evolution of consciousness and the world is initially covered by water and therefore there are only aquatic living entities present and the creatures of the land come later, after the water dries up and the land becomes manifest, the process driving this manifestation of the living entities is not at all natural selection and chance.  In some ways this process could be called evolution, but the theory that the diverse forms of life we experience around us were caused by ‘natural selection’ driven by random mutations is completely false.

We have never found the “missing links”
Darwin himself admitted there was no proof for his theory of one species gradually evolving into another species in the fossil record at the time of writing his thesis, but he was sure as time went on the “Missing Links” would be found. The subsequent fossil evidence has done nothing to support his theory. There are unlimited specimens which contradict the idea of natural selection altogether and no proof to support a continuous chain of slightly different species evolving from one form to another more advanced form. It is just not there in the fossil record. So why have the supposedly intelligent scientific community not rejected the idea of evolution of the species? The only answer is the alternative is to accept some sort of divine direction driving the force of creation and that is unacceptable to the materialistic scientists and atheists in our hedonistic world.

Of course the ‘theory’ that there is a God, a Supreme Person in control who is directing and managing the process of the creation of the material world is a completely valid and logical ‘theory’, but it is rejected by science because they want to be god themselves. They do not what to accept that there may be some intelligence and direction that is greater than themselves. Therefore rather than considering the perfectly valid ‘theory’ that there is intelligent control behind the creation they instead remain attached their disproved theory of natural selection by chance which allows them to imagine that they are the greatest creatures in the creation and there is no one superior to them…

Banishing God and building a “Brave New World”
Generally we have all come to the material world because we want to become the enjoyer. Actually as living entities our real constitutional position is that we are eternally servants of Krishna. We experience the highest transcendental pleasure by serving Krishna. That is the only way we can become happy, by serving Krishna. However we have a little independence. So we can choose to serve Krishna–which is the proper use of our independence–or we can decide to give up the service of Krishna and try and be happy independently from Krishna. Instead of serving Krishna we want to become just like Krishna. Krishna is the Supreme enjoyer and we are His servants. But sometimes we become envious of the position of Krishna and we want to become the enjoyer, just like Krishna.

So that is why Krishna created this material world and that is why He sent us here. We want to enjoy our senses to the maximum extent and science is about facilitating this sense gratification by exploiting the natural resources of this planet and exploiting the energy of the general mass of people by engaging them in working in factories, laboratories, hellish cities and other degraded situations to build the scientists “Brave New World.” Practically they have succeeded in building a new world with money and sense gratification as the worshipable objects and God is banished altogether.

Are we any happier than our forefathers?
But what have we achieved? Certainly we can now drive in fast cars, fly from one side of the planet to the other quickly and play games on our computers and phones, but are we any happier now than our forefathers one hundred years ago? My answer would be unquestionably no, definitely not. We see signs of despair and anxiety everywhere. Crime, murder, rape and suicide levels are climbing alarmingly, killer diseases like AIDS and cancer are claiming more and more victims despite the helpless scientists feeble attempts to stop them. War and social and political strife is affecting a large percentage of the earth’s population… in other words the world is in a big mess. Our quality of life has not improved at all from the so-called advances of science.

Nature is not blind
Nature is not blind. There is an intelligent direction behind nature and there is a purpose for life here in the material world. This world is manifested to give us, the rebellious living entities, a chance to live separately from God and became false lords and masters. Because we want to be god Krishna, the real God, has very mercifully built this material world for us. It’s something like a child’s playground. We can come here and try to fulfill our desires of becoming the lord and master. But there’s a catch. This world is more like a prison than a playground. Although the material energy is very attractive, the real pleasure substance we are searching for cannot be found here. That pleasure, or ananda, can only be found in the spiritual world, the kingdom of God. So this material world is a place of rectification.

The Material World is designed to frustrate us!
To some extent we can fulfill our material desires here in the material world but nature is constructed in such a way to frustrate all our attempts in the long run. We are forced to come back here to the material world birth after birth and in every birth we try to enjoy our senses but we are always frustrated in the end. Every body we get in the material world is subject to birth, old age, disease and death. After many, many births of frustration in the material world an intelligent person can see there is actually no pleasure here so he begins to search for something else, something spiritual…

Scientists have good intelligence, but they are misusing it
Scientists are actually misusing their God-given intelligence. They certainly have good intelligence but such intelligent men are meant to be trained as Brahmins to become experts in the Vedic scriptures so they can learn and teach actual scientific knowledge which can really solve all the problems of the people on this planet. When people become frustrated with material life there has to be someone to tell them about spiritual life so these intelligent men should be doing this. They should use their intelligence to study the Vedas, to become Krishna conscious themselves and then to spread Krishna consciousness all over the world. But instead the scientists are misusing their good intelligence and are encouraging people to become more and more animalistic.

There is an Evolution of Consciousness, not an evolution of species
According to the Vedic knowledge there is evolution but it is not evolution of the species as Darwin proposed, but evolution of consciousness. As the fossil record clearly shows there are no intermediate forms between one species and another. The Padma Puranadescribes there are 8,400,000 species of life within this universe. Every species is existing at all times but they may not all be present on any given planet. There are unlimited planets in this one universe and we have information that beyond this universe there are unlimited other universes also. This universe is one of the smallest. There are many universes much larger than this one. But everywhere in the material creation these 8,400,000 species of life exist. The forms already exist on the subtle platform even if they are not physically manifested. This universe is going through cycles. Sometimes it is manifested and sometimes it is unmanifested but even when there is no manifested material world all the forms of the 8,400,000 species of life are still there on the subtle platform.

Every species of life is one step on the ladder of the evolution of consciousness. The soul in every species of life is equal in quality and quantity with the others, it is only due to the consciousness of a particular living entity that he takes a higher or lower body. If I ask the real questions one is meant to in this human form of life, which are: “Who am I? What is the purpose of life? What is spirit? Who is God?” then I am bound to be elevated to a higher platform of consciousness in the next life.

Evolution working backwards?
If, however, I misuse this human form of life and live like the monkeys, simply looking for the material necessities of life: namely eating, sleeping, sex life and defense, then I am no better than a monkey and I will take a monkeys body in the next life.

The scientists don’t know about this “backward” evolution. They are heading backwards in the evolution of consciousness because they are using their God-given intelligence for facilitating the animal propensities in an advanced, scientific way instead of using it for advancing spiritually. As a result of their misuse of their intelligence they are going backwards on the evolutionary path and will find themselves in the bodies of monkeys in their next lives.

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59 Responses to Evolution from Scientist to Monkey

  1. aakriti says:

    hare krsna ..
    if person is human in this birth. can one be human in next birth as well???

    • Yes. The human birth is very special. In the animal form of life there is no real independence. Animals simply struggle to fulfill the animistic desires of eating, sleeping, mating and defending. They only work on instinct. So there is no real independence or choice on the part of an animal. Therefore there is no sin for an animal. The animal will simply eat the foodstuffs that it is meant to eat by nature and will act in the way it is directed to act under the thee modes of material nature. So an animal will automatically be elevated to the next higher body in the evolution of consciousness after death.

      But human life is special, in the human form of life we have a certain degree of free will and independence. We can make the choice between good and bad, between sinful and pious. So in the human form of life if we chose to act in a good way we will be elevated in the next life and will again receive the human form of life or better or even be elevated to the spiritual world, but if we choose to act in a bad, sinful and animistic way, then we can be degraded to an animal birth in our next life or to a very uncomfortable position suffering in one of the hellish planets.

      So in the human form of life we can either elevate ourselves or degrade ourselves. Our next birth is determined by the state of our consciousness at the time of death. So if at the time of death we are thinking of Krishna that is the perfection of our life and we will go back home, back to Godhead, back to Krishna. But if we are thinking like an animal at the time of death, simply concerned with the base animal desires of eating, sleeping, sex and defense, then we will be forced to take an animals body in our next birth…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  2. srividya says:

    I am extremely impresssed by this article which echoes the impressions of my mind. Now I am clearer in my ideas regarding these things. The Shankaracharya of Kamakoti peetam at Kancheepuram says that Sri Krishna has ridiculed the attitude of some brahmins who stick to vedic rituals without trying to progress beyond that. He says that it is necessary to go beyond vedic rituals and try to evolve spiritually in the third part of our lives. He also says that it is also wrong to jump to the third part without going through the initial karmakanda period of doing one’s share of ritual practices either.
    My question is for the dalits. These people don’t have any ritual practices as they have been thrown out of the Hindu Sphere many centuries ago. So how will they follow ritual practices? They can only follow the jnana marga straight. Isn’t it?

    • Hare Krishna Srividya

      Krishna consciousness is so nice that it can be followed by anyone. There is no need for any type of good birth or any previous qualification whatsoever. Anyone can read Srila Prabhupada’s book and understand the science of Krishna consciousness and chant Hare Krishna. And anyone, no matter how low his birth is, if he surrenders to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna and under the direction of Srila Prabhupada follows the path of Bhakti-yoga or Krishna consciousness will very quickly surpass all so-called high-class brahmanas. A vaisnava is higher than any sort of brahmana so anyone of any low birth, if he takes sincerely to Krishna consciousness, is much better than any so-called brahmana without Krishna consciousness.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  3. Vikram says:

    Dear Madhudvisa Dasa,

    Very interesting, but then why do so many other religions reject the concept of reincarnation?

    As for modern people not being happy, that is so true, many are not. I know I was depressed for many years, even before I got full-blown schizophrenia. Actually, the whole reason I became interested in spirituality is that I was frustrated and depressed, so that bad experience might be a blessing in disguise. As you said in your post, Krishna designed this world to be frustrating so that they would give up this materialistic struggle.

    I’ve been aware of that for a while now through Prabhupada’s books and my own experience, but I have to admit I’m still reluctant to become a devotee. I think the main reason is I find it difficult to believe the rituals performed in the temples are actually producing any results. I mean, I know Prabhupada says that when these rituals are performed the deity is entering the murti (that is what the deity figure of metal or wood is called, right?) I know I’m supposed to trust Prabhupada since he is the guru; I just don’t understand why all these forces are hidden from us if Krishna really wants us to believe that the scriptures are his word. Even if we do accept that Krishna is the controller, how do we know that all these rituals are influencing the world?

    I want to reject the materialistic struggle, but I don’t know what to replace it with. Should I try to be a modern scientist, but one who accepts he is not the controller, only Krishna is? Should I become a devotee? Is it possible to be both a devotee and a scientist? I know Prabhupada called Krishna consciousness Vedic science, but for something to be scientific it has to be verifiable, so I think that’s probably the main reason for my reluctance to become a devotee—I have no idea how to verify that Krishna is actually entering these deity figures, purifying that prasadam, or even that the scriptures are in fact his word.

    How will I know that I am on the true path?

    Vikram

    • Hare Krishna Vikram

      Krishna does not appear before the materialists. He hides Himself from the materialists. So if you are a materialist then you will not be able to find Krishna, because you do not want Krishna. The purpose of our life is to surrender to and serve Krishna, but the materialists do not want to do this. They want to become the master themselves and they want people to surrender to and serve them. So for the materialist Krishna will remain hidden forever. As far as the material world is concerned Krishna has created that as a self-contained unit. So the material scientists can study it and come to the conclusion that nature is working independently and they will not find anything that contradicts this assumption. Krishna will remain hidden to them.

      So actually to take to Krishna consciousness you need faith. You need the faith that Srila Prabhupada is a pure devotee of Krishna, you need the faith that there is a God, and His name is Krishna, and you need the faith to get the determination to seriously follow the process of saddhana-bhakti, chanting at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra daily, strictly following the four regulative principles [no illicit sex, no meat eating, no gambling and no intoxication] and reading Srila Prabhupada’s books at least 1-2 hours a day.

      If you can not get this faith and therefore can not follow the regulative principles and chant at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra daily then you will not be able to become Krishna conscious. But you can get that faith by hearing. If you simply read Srila Prabhupada’s books and hear his classes submissively and at least theoritically accept that Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead then you can develop that faith.

      It is all up to you. Krishna hides Himself from the people who do not want to see Him. But Krishna does not hide Himself from His devotees. Krishna’s devotees can see Krishna. But the materialists will only see Krishna as cruel death…

      Krishna consciousness is the true path. I can assure you of that. There is no doubt. You simply have to have faith in this. There is no way you can know it is the true path on your own strength. You have to accept this knowledge from an authority, a person who knows. The only way you can know where a path leads is to follow it yourself or to hear from a person who has already followed it. It is better to get the advice from the persons who have already followed the path and reached the destination for they can give you the real, true, authoritative knowledge about the path of Krishna consciousness and they can give you good advice on how to successfully traverse the path and how to avoid any pitfalls.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  4. Vikram says:

    One more interesting thing, I did a search on Google about how many species there are on earth, and scientists say anywhere from 5-10 million (one recent study suggested about 8.7 million), so at least they are roughly accurate, based on your figure of 8,400,000.

  5. julie says:

    Pse can u explain wat is meant by “natural selection”. Thk u haribol

    • Hi Julie

      “Natural selection” is a term coined by Charles Darwin and it is the process by that he speculates drives and directs evolution.

      The idea of the materialistic evolution theory is that gradually by random mutations one species of life will become transformed into another one. But there has to be something driving this process. So the theory of “natural selection” is that occasionally one of these random mutations causes that particular living entity to have and advantage over the other members of his species. For a crazy example we could consider that a giraffe was once some sort of horse and by some random mutation one horse was born with a longer neck than all the other ones and that means he could reach up higher and get food that was not available to the other horses. And there was some drought so the food became scarce so all the horses with the normal length neck ate all the food they could reach and there was nothing left so they died. But there were a few of these horses with long necks and after all the normal neck horses died because of lack of food they matted together and produced horses with even longer necks and this went on for a while and the horses of course turned into giraffes.

      So this is ‘natural selection’ the random mutation of the longer neck of the horse gave him a survival advantage over his fellow horses so he lived and they died. So he got to mate and pass on the mutation to the future generations.

      It is a logical explanation but this is not what happens of course. There are always horses and giraffes, they are two completely different species of animal and horses will never turn into any other species. They will always be horses, and giraffes will always be giraffes…

      So the scientists idea of ‘natural selection’ is incorrect. It is an incorrect theory. It does work for small traits. Like Darwin was studying finches on the Galapagos islands. There were different islands with different types of food available and he noticed that finches with a particular type of beak were more prominent on an island where that type of beak was advantageous for getting a particular type of food that was available on that island. So it is possible to breed traits into a particular species in this way, by ‘natural selection’. It is done regularly by breeders of animals for hundreds of years. The dairy cow people will breed cows to produce cows that will give a lot of milk for example. So you can do this. By selection particular cows and bulls who have the trait you want to develop and breeding them together you can produce offspring that have improved abilities in particular areas. But they remain the same species. Not that you can create a new species in this way by natural selection.

  6. karthikeyen m says:

    Exactly the scientists are wasting their god’s given intelligence,even they very well know this materialistic body will be destroyed one day they do no accept the existence of God rather they go on for a detailed theory quest and not able to create even a single grain,if all beings accept krishna consciousness definitely there will be no any single problem like police, court,polygamy, theft etc…,

    • Somenath says:

      Why do not you just destroy your material body which is painful, and live with your consciousness? Please give your opinion.

      With my best regards,
      Somenath

      • That would be a great sin.

        The human form of life is a great gift from Krishna because in the human form of life we have developed consciousness and we can use this human form of life as a great boat to cross over the ocean of necisence that is this material world. So to destroy a great boat that is able to take us to the other side of the ocean where life is eternal, full of knowledge and full of bliss would be a very great mistake and a very great sin…

        Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

        Madhudvisa dasa

  7. Welcome Ntaphane says:

    Hare Krishna Madhudvisa,THANK you very much about this mail. I Would like to ask you about the first person on earth,the Bible say it was Adam and Eve(GENESIS 2:7).The rich people are they also not happy on this planet earth? What is their frustration?

    • The first person in the universe is Lord Brahma and I suggest you read Srimad-Bhagavatam to get all the details of the creation of the universe. The Bible is a small book and does no have much detail about the creation. You will find the detail you are looking for in Srimad-Bhagavtam.

      Everyone is unhappy on this planet, not just the rich people, the poor people are also unhappy. It is because we are all eternally servants of Krishna, we can only be happy serving Krishna. But here in the material world instead of serving Krishna we are all trying to become the master and get others to serve us. So this is not our natural constitutional position, it is not what we are supposed to be doing and therefore everyone here, rich and poor, they are all unhappy and frustrated.

      The frustration can only be cured by be reawakeing our original Krishna consciousness, by again putting ourselves in our eternal natural constitutional position as a servant of Krishna… Then we will be happy.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  8. Namaste Prabhu,
    Nice article. You might also like to check out what is called the Cambrian Explosion. There have been videos made about it. It was something Darwin was aware disproved his theory while he was yet living.
    Your servant, Mayesa dasa

  9. Gaurav says:

    Hare Krishna,
    You have mentioned that there are 8,400,000 species on this planet, and the number always remains constant.
    But what about the species like dinosaurs, the mammoth, which are no longer present in the material world? Doesn’t the count reduce then?

    • I never said there are 8,400,000 species on this planet. That is the total number of species in the universe. They all always exist on the subtle platform, but they are not all present here on this planet at the moment. Some are on other planets, etc. But the forms are constant. They are not evolving from one form to another. There are 8,400,000 specific individual species and they will always remain the same. They are however not all present on the one planet at the same time. It is spread all over the universe.

  10. Somenath says:

    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
    Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare

    Although I am not convinced by Darwin’s evolution theory, I do not agree with your one either.

    How do you know there are 8,400,000 species of life? In your opinion what is the definition of life? If you know there are these many species you might have the source of information about the details of these lives. What is that reliable source?

    You mentioned that the material world is designed to frustrate us, then why did God design it that way? Does He want to frustrate us? why?

    Why does God allow our bad thoughts coming to our mind then punish us? Why does He play this trick?

    Does He just want to play with us sometime in a cruel and other time in a loving ways as we play with the doll?

    With my best regards,
    Somenath

    • Hare Krishna Somenath

      The perfect source of knowledge is the Vedas. Because that is not produced by any imperfect man. It is coming from Krishna. And Krishna is perfect, so the knowledge in the Vedas is perfect. So when Krishna says there are 8,400,000 species of life all over the universe that is perfect and correct knowledge. It is not that they are all present here on this planet. That is the number of species of life in the whole universe.

      Yes. The material world is designed to frustrate us. It is not our home and we can never be happy here. It is meant to awaken the thoughtful persons so they ultimately realize there is no point in trying to be happy independently of Krishna, because it is not possible to be happy without serving Krishna. So the frustrations of this material world will ultimately drive thoughtful people to surrender to Krishna. So the frustrations are good actually.

      It is not God that is putting the bad thoughts in our minds. We put them there ourselves. We have to learn the science of Krishna consciousness and if we can become Krishna conscious then we will be able to control our minds. Because we have a material body and material senses naturally the senses are agitating the mind and the mind is agitating the intelligence and in this way we become disturbed. While we may not be able to completely stop this agitation by the mind and the senses a Krishna conscious person is calm like a great ocean and even though so many agitating rivers may flow into a great ocean the ocean remains undisturbed.

      Krishna is not being cruel to us. We came here to the material world of our own accord. Krishna is mercifully helping us to get out. He is giving us that option and leaving it up to us to chose Him or maya. If we choose Krishna we will be free from all the suffering and problems and if we choose maya the suffering will intensify…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  11. sashikanth says:

    Hare krishna

    please accept my humble obeisances ( to madhudvisa dasa)…iam highly impressed and motivated by your articles…and being a research person from physics, i also have a desire to contribute….any kind of articles relating to any science subjects…it may be physical sciences or biological sciences….I need your email id desperately please..

    yours humble servant

  12. Govind Sharma says:

    hare krishna prabhu ji

    there is some explanation about 840000 species IN universe but as u mention in the mail there is number some type of human being than could u explain little bit about human being species .is there any type of human being we can say that two types like male and female ? there is some not understand thing for me .
    Could you explain about the human species .

    Hare krishna

    • No, mail and female are the same species. But there are 100,000 species of human beings all over the universe. They are not all on this planet but some different human species are here like the Chinese, the Africans, the Arian races, etc. But most of the other human species are not on this planet.

  13. Jim p says:

    Interesting article, I agree with some of the points made. However I have doubts in what I have read. Using logic, god’s given intelligence, there is a bit of confusion on our purpose on this earth. Is our purpose to be “enjoyers” to seek pleasure in the material world. How can this be possible if you say the only way we can seek pleasure or happiness and the best kind of pleasure or happiness is through serving Krishna. Then why would be want to be on this earth or desire for material things or give up service to him? To say we are envious of god makes no sense. You cannot be envious of god because we are mortal. How does that even work? This leads my to my next point, if our purpose is to enjoy our senses, it seems a bit pointless. Why does god need to create earth to enjoy our senses, that could be done without making earth. It would make more sense if our purpose is a test which explains better why the earth would have been created and our actual purpose. The two cannot co-exist, this life cannot be a test but also an opportunity to maximise our senses.

    I disagree with your comments on the effects of science on humanity. Quality of life has improved due to technological and scientifical advances. If you study history you see that evidently. If you look at the average age span and compare is against the past you will see. With general morality I agree with you.

    Also could you provide evidence from other sources about regressive evolution?

    • Hare Krishna Jim

      You can not understand these things without becoming Krishna consciousness. So the only option for you is to read Srila Prabhupada’s books and chant Hare Krishna and as your consciousness becomes purified these issues will become very clear to you. We have to clear up our consciousness first before we can properly grasp transcendental knowledge.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  14. Ratish Krishnamoorthy says:

    Om Namo Vasudevaya!!

    Thank you very much for putting lights on many doubts that were on my mind.

    I would like to clarify one doubt. We must have got the human life after passing through many inferior life forms. So in those lives we must have done something good or our thought process must have been progressive so that we got the present human form at present. So naturally in this life we should be able to again upgrade our spiritual thought rather than being going backward, because in each life not only our physical form but also our intellect should also go to the next level. But the actual scenario we are seeing is not like that. We can see many humans behaving more worse than animals. So why we are again going backwards in the evolution process after getting such a highest life form like humans. I have heard that even Devas need to take the life of humans to attain the Supreme god. If our present state is so much valuable why most of the humans are not able to develop it?

    • Humans can go forwards or backwards because we have a little independence. So if we use that independence correctly by surrendering to Krishna and serving HIm then we go forward, but if we misuse our independence and try to become the lord and master of the material world ourselves and try to make so many arrangements to enjoy sense gratification here–eating, sleeping, mating and defending–then we go backwards.

  15. florman says:

    I carefully read the latest publication I received thru email. Thank you for sharing to me another possibility other than this material world, but i am a bit confused by the term “missing link” in darwin’s theory of evolution. Could you please explain what missing link means?

  16. A-Krsna says:

    Hare Krishna! dear Madhudvisa Prabhu,

    Please accept my humble obeisances!

    The article is spiritually energizing and I agree with all the points. In fact material science of modern day scientists is imperfect, full of limitations & full of flaws. It’s not real science. In comparison, Krishna consciousness is the most perfect, brilliant & awesome science. One just need to practice it under the guidance of a perfect spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada with FAITH to experience the power. We are not these temporary material bodies made up of blood, muscles, bile, bones, serum, but we are eternal spiritual beings. We are spirit souls. Our real nature is completely different from matter. Our gross body requires various macro-nutrients & macro-nutrients like carbohydrates, protein, fats, minerals, vitamins, fiber, etc. for the proper functioning and maintenance, yet these gross nutrients can’t nourish the real us- Soul. FAITH is the only most important food, nutrient required for the Soul. Without faith in Krishna & Srila Prabhupada’s words one can never understand Krishna’s ULTIMATE science. Krishna is beyond the range of our limited sense perception, He cannot be conceived by exercising our senses.

    Mother Kunti prays:”O Kṛṣṇa, I offer my obeisances unto You because You are the original personality and are unaffected by the qualities of the material world. You are existing both within and without everything, yet You are invisible to all.” (Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.18)

    “Being beyond the range of limited sense perception, You are the eternally irreproachable factor covered by the curtain of deluding energy. You are invisible to the foolish observer, exactly as an actor dressed as a player is not recognized.” (SB 1.8.19)

    The only way to understand Krishna is follow the scientific process of sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam arcanam vandanam dasyam sakhyam atma-nivedanam. To engage in hearing, chanting, reading, Deity worship etc of the All Powerful, Ultimate Being Sri Krishna & engaging our mundane works in His service is the most perfect scientific process. One can realize that just by following the process sincerely for few weeks. Prabhu,I love your articles. You are doing a great service to Srila Prabhupada.

    Please keep on sharing these wonderful articles with me. Thank you so much! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

  17. khial says:

    Humans source of knowledge is changing with passage of time but nature exists in its own explained form…..

    • Hare Krishna Khial

      Yes, that is the problem with human sources of knowledge that are obtained by the so-called ‘scientific’ process of observation and experimentation. The problem is this so-called knowledge is always changing. And what does that mean? Actually if it is changing it means it wrong. Otherwise there would be no reason to change it. So that is the problem with scientific so-called knowledge. It is all wrong. Because it has been gathered through instruments, the senses of the human body, which are themselves imperfect and limited. So knowledge gathered through imperfect and limited senses will by definition always be imperfect and limited.

      So every piece of knowledge that ‘science’ gives us will always be imperfect and limited.

      In contrast to this the Vedic knowledge never changes. The Vedic knowledge is eternally perfect. So there is never any need for change. The Vedic knowledge is perfect because it is not arrived at by any effort of imperfect creatures using their imperfect senses. The Vedas is not a product of any human effort. It is handed down in the disciplic succession from Krishna to Lord Brahma, then from Brahma to Narada Muni, then Narada Muni to Vyassadeva, from Vyasadeva to Sukadeva Goswami, etc. So the Vedic knowledge is a process of transmission of perfect knowledge that originates from Krishna.

      This is the only way we can get real knowledge. We have to get knowledge from a perfect person who actually has the knowledge.

      We will never be able to discover perfect knowledge, or any substantial knowledge at all really, by our own efforts of observation and experimentation, the ‘scientific process’. This is doomed to failure because practically we can not observe anything to speak of. To explain this the example of a frog in a well is given. The frog was born and has spent his whole life at the bottom of that well. For him that well is his universe and he knows nothing else. All he has seen is that round circle up at the top of the well which is sometimes dark and sometime bright and very occasionally very bright when the sun happens to be directly over his well and he has no doubt spotted some stars at night and maybe very rarely got a glimpse of the moon when it once passed over the top of his well. In the harvest season he has heard the rumblings of the farmers machinery as he harvests his crops around the well.

      And of course our frog is a scientist and he has speculated and come up with a whole cosmology and universal view and a philosophy an view of the universe as he sees it through the hole in the top of his well… But what can he see actually? How can he conceive that above his well there are fields and a farmer grows and harvests grains there for the people in the city to eat? He has no concepts. None of these things exist in his universe. He can not even imagine such things…

      So our scientists in their attempts to understand the universe are no better than the frog in the well. As the frog really can not see anything substantial and therefore has no actual information that would enable him to get any real understanding of the universe and how it works, because he can not see anything… The scientists, similarly, can not see anything at all substantial of the universe so they have no way of being able to understand it.

      The only way to understand a thing is to hear about it from someone who actually knows about it… And because the Vedas are not products of human efforts but are descending to us from Krishna, who is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and who knows everything about everything completely, this is a perfect source of knowledge that never needs updating or changing.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  18. khial says:

    All creatures have chemistry differences but life has no chemistry?

    • No. Life has no chemistry. Chemistry means a mixture of chemicals. And life is not at all a mixture of chemicals. Life is the spirit soul whose presence within the body animates and pervades the whole body as consciousness and it is the soul leaving the body that causes the “death” of the body. Without he soul, the consciousness, the life, the body is simply a lump of rotting chemistry on the ground. The chemistry is in the body. But the body is not alive. The body only seems to be alive when the spirit soul is present in it and is pervading the body with its consciousness and energy.

      So life is spiritual and has absolutely no chemistry…

  19. Chandrani Krishna says:

    Hare Krishna , Prabhu, I have a question too. How to behave with people who always try to nullify the universal truth of existence of God.

    • A devotee avoids the non-devotees and does not try to preach to them. He finds the innocent people who are interested in hearing about Krishna and speaks about Krishna to them and he finds the more advanced devotees and associates with them and hears from them.

      So the atheists are there and will always be there. We have nothing to do with them, we do not associate with them, we avoid them.

  20. chetana says:

    Hare Krishna

  21. chetana says:

    Hare Krishna
    i understand dt to speak anything except topics related to Lord is waste of time. still to clarify my doubts m asking such questions..
    why is it that we cannot see large animals like dinosaurs now? we got their remains which proves that they existed!
    scientists present a fossil which is called archaeopteryx which has wings like bird and teeth like reptile..
    i m asking dis bcoz i wish to refute the theory so as to preach at school hence i m seeking your help

  22. Dr Vijay says:

    Hare Krishnaa
    As a bio-scientistI and after hearing excerpts from vedas, bhagvat puran and gita, I fully endorse the views expressed in this article. The extent of diversity in structure and functions of the environment and the living organisms is a classical example of HIS-LORD KRISHNA’S creation. Inspite of all types of advances in science and technology man has not yet been able to create any form of sustainable life form, because that is the domain of the LORD and Brahamaji.
    Dr Vijay

  23. dev says:

    Dear guruji,

    I live with few boys in a mess. Even though I read Srimad bhagvat gita in the mess by my own but the condition in the room is not suitable. No purity is their in the room and I also have to keep Srimad bhagvat gita in that unpurified place.

    Please suggest me what to do to avoid the seen?

    Thanking you
    DEv

    • I have no idea. You have to use your own common sense to organize your own life so things are favorable for making advancement in Krishna consciousness.

    • Dr Vijay says:

      Dear Dev
      Hare Krishna
      Keeping sacred books in sacred places is advised, however if there is inadequate space then you may keep in best available place.Most importantly your heart should be firmly attached to the sacredness of the book, and should always feel that LORD KRISHNA is with you in all locations. Good and bad are relative gestures, complete surrender to LORD KRISHNA will overcome all problems.

  24. kapil saxena says:

    Dear brother
    Hare Krishna
    in fact this was the last post which i recd from your end and there was a tragedy in my family so i went to my place as my elder cousin brother has left his body and therefore I was unable to access internet -but to my surprised I have not recd any more mail from your ends till this email. pls start sending then -secondly as there was a death happens in my family so according to customs I was unable to chant my regular chanting and now I am confuse what to do -pls guide me

    • Hare Krishna Kapil

      I am working on http://www.back2godhead.com and do not have time to write mail at the moment. Please go to back2godhead.com and read the articles there.

      You have to forget this nonsense Hinduism Prabhu. We can not let anything stop us from chanting Hare Krishna.

      And this planet is mrtyu-loka, the planet of death. People are dying around us all the time. You have to get used to it and not be suprised if someone in your family dies…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  25. Sourabh Pramanik says:

    Hare krishna pravuji. Ur mails r really wonderful. But from 7th january,2013 I’m nt receiving ur mail despite I’v nt unsubscribed. Plz resume d sending of mail 2 me.

  26. bh gerard says:

    It has always occurred to me that scientists are always talking bananas(no offence to this honourable fruit).

    Without creation, there would be nothing to evolve!

    Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

    My sincere thanks to you Madhudvisa Prabhu for your instruction.

  27. Dr.Goswami says:

    Hare Krishna! dear Madhudvisa Prabhu,

    Please accept my humble obeisances!
    Very interesting and thought provoking article. Actually both Science and spiritualism can not completely explains the perfect knowledge and interactions of GOD, LIFE and materialism Both have plus and negative points. We can not completely ruled out the theory of evolution nor spirituality can satisfactorily describe every things about universe. Truth can be better understood by bridging the both. Human life span is too short to ‘see’ evolution himself. Science itself can not explain each and every aspects of life and its control. However, there is no doubt about the facilities provided by the development of technology.The very fine demarcation between living and non living have completely abolished. Biotechnological advancements have completely changed our out look at the cost of peace, happiness and love at every levels of the universe. Our life can be more meaningful and purposeful if both science and spirituality are brought together. But the fundamental question is who will do it? I think both have to come together for the betterment of world and finally the universe. This is high time for such activities.
    Hare Krishna ! Hare Krishna!

    • Hare Krishna Dr. Goswami

      ‘Science’ is useless. It has not helped us in any way at all. It has simply created a hellish and completely demoniac world where everyone is suffering many times more than before the so-called advancements of science.

      As far as evolution there is a type of evolution, and that is a spritual evolution. There is no evolution of the bodies. The 8,400,000 species of life are fixed and are eternal. These species will all again come into existence in the next creation after everything in the universe we can see is destroyed. So the different species are stored on the subtle platform. They are there and they come out at the right time. But the spirit souls, the living entities are evolving through the different species of life. So that is evolution.

      Also in the creation of the universe in the beginning everything is covered with water, so in the beginning there are only aquatic creatures, but as the land comes out then the insects and plants and animals and everything up to the human beings come into existence. The forms of all the species of life are always there in the subtle energy and as soon as the physical situation is OK for them then they become manifest.

      All this population of the universe is being done under the direction of Lord Brahma and the Prajapatis. So it is directed and managed by them.

      Anyhow technology is ugra-karma, horrible activities meant to destroy the world. But of course there is an element of truth in what you say. The technology also is not created by the scientists. That is also automatically coming out, because this Kali-yuga is the age of technology. So Krishna is giving the intelligence to the scientists to discover these technological wonders, they are not creating anything, just discovering what Krishna has already put there. And there is a lot more technology they have not yet discovered. We are still very primitive in technological terms.

      But this technology complicates life, it does not simplify it, still as you suggest, we are using it in the service of Krishna.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  28. arvind shetty says:

    prabuji pl send me new message regularly

  29. Kaushalya says:

    Hare Krishna Prabhu:

    Interesting article, but I wanted to enquirer about some of your statements. This here:

    “Scientists are actually misusing their God-given intelligence. They certainly have good intelligence but such intelligent men are meant to be trained as Brahmins to become experts in the Vedic scriptures so they can learn and teach actual scientific knowledge which can really solve all the problems of the people on this planet”.

    The process is to surrender to a “bona fide” Spiritual Master. Then get trained as a Brahmin. You are just as guilty of impersonalism as the next guy, because you do not push this point enough. This is the part of training that makes or breaks the disciple. There are many “Brahmin trainings” going on, on this planet, but how many are being trained by the bona fide Spiritual Master like Lord Srila Prabhupada? He is the Savior for the next ten thousand years, and until this part of knowledge is being distributed to the people, what is the point of all these dry and speculative writings?

    “That is because there are 8,400,000 species of life and these species are fixed. It is the consciousness of the particular living entity, spirit soul, at the time of death, or the time he leaves the body, that determines the type of body he will be placed into in his next birth” (Bhaktivedanta).

    In this next statement, you need to state your source of information. Where do you get this information from? It is obvious you were not born with it. Being an assistance instructor at a college of sociology, I am constantly preaching to way- warded professors and scientists. But, my success is in introducing them to Lord Srila Prabhupada, not just the knowledge of the Vedas.

    I notice you did not up load my last letter to you, so I take that as your insecurities with the real truth. The European and American Caucasian bodies and mentalities cannot accept the Savior as a Spiritual Being in a “body of color”. I have come across pictures and deities of Lord Srila Prabhupada being bleached “white”. I found your consciousness no different. Lord Srila Prabhupada is even better than “white” jesus christ, because He gave us everything concerning knowledge of the world and universes; Spiritual and the material worlds. I am not expecting you are going to print this post either, because you are afraid of the “real” truth: THAT LORD SRILA PRABHUPADA IS THE NEW SAVIOR OF THIS PLANET FOR THE NEXT TEN-THOUSAND YEARS!

    .Hare Krishna . . .

  30. madhudvisa says:

    Hare Krishna Sandhya

    It does not matter if you agree or disagree. We have to hear it from the acharyas, the authorities, the ones who know. And they tell us that our purpose is only to render service to Krishna.

    This idea that “Krishna created us” is a materialistic idea. Of course Krishna is the cause of all causes so He is the cause of us also. So in this sense the idea that Krishna creates us comes. But actually we and Krishna are of the same eternal spiritual quality. As Krishna is unborn and beginningless and endless, so are we.

    As you say we are all the parts of God, but what you may not realized is the purpose of the parts of God is to serve God, to give enjoyment to God. It is like in our body we have many parts. Like the hands for instance are meant to serve the whole body. The hands can not enjoy by themselves. If they hands are holding a nice sweet the hands can not enjoy it themselves, they have to put it in the mouth and then when it goes to the stomach the stomach will digest it and the energy will be spread out all over the body and in that way the the hands will enjoy the sweet. So, like that, we are all parts and parcels of Krishna, and, like the hands, we have no ability to enjoy separately from Krishna. When we serve Krishna, if we can satisfy Krishna, then that satisfaction of Krishna will also make us satisfied because we are all parts and parcels of Krishna.

    So it is not that because we are parts of god the we are god. No. Because we are parts of God it is our purpose and our duty to serve God. God is the master and we are His servants. We are meant to be enjoyed by God. God is the enjoyer and we are the enjoyed.

    Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

    Madhudvisa dasa

  31. vanshika says:

    Hare Krishna prabhu ji
    all glories to Srila prabhupad
    all glories to lord Shri Krishna ji
    all deep respect for you
    I have also being studying about Darwin’s theory in my school’s science book. Its all about diversity in living organisums. But you wrote true and made it very clear that the missing links are still not found. Still we have many questions to scientist which are not answered by them giving an statement that “as time will pass, world will develoup, you’ll get your answers”, as they think a more brave world will be developd and when we ask our science teacher something which has no answer she says,”it’s natural !!!”, i have to accept it beacause if i’ll say its by the divine’s mercy they will say me a idiot beacuse they dont know the real reason and want to be the supreme themselves.The questions like, “who is god, what is Soul, etc” are kept aside and questions like,”what is diameter of space, what is depth of ocean,etc” are always asked very interestingly. People dont want to take interest in spiritual life but in scientific life. They dont understand that all kind of knowledge which is needed for a human being is available in our vedas and spiritual books. I have a great interest in them but people around me have the opposite! , that’s why I love to read your mails which gives me relief that still there are people doing right.
    Always deep respecting and thanking you prabhu ji
    I wanted to tell you that I am going to Vrindavan tomorrow for two days. This is the fourth time from last year’s august that i am visiting vrindavan. I am very happy that Krishna is inviting me again.
    All his mercy
    All his love
    Hari bol, Hari Bol !!!!!
    Hare Krishna Prabhu ji

    • Your realizations are very nice.

      Yes. The real reason the atheists so much like Darwin’s theory is that it provides a ‘scientific’ explanation as to how the species of life could have developed simply by chance with no intelligence of superior direction involved. So this theory of evolution is the religion of the atheists. It does not matter to them that there is no proof for evolution and that there are so many things that disprove evolution actually, and that actually there is God, there is a supreme intelligence under Who’s direction everything is acting. The only business of the atheists is to banish God at all cost. So that is why they so much like the theory of evolution, because it eliminates God from the picture. That is all. They do not want to accept that there is anyone greater than themselves. They do not want to admit that there God, a Supreme Person to Whom they will ultimately have to surrender to…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  32. I do not have much time to write emails at the moment, I am completely overwhelmed with service. So when I get some time I will write. But you can read Srila Prabhupada’s books. Everything is there. That is the idea of my emails. To get you interested in reading Srila Prabhupada’s books. So please read Srila Prabhupada’s books….

  33. Dr Vijay says:

    I fully agree to the views expressed in the above article. In fact I feel it has been a western conspiracy to undo the importance of Indian philosophy and create a sense of disbelief in what is mentioned in our sacred literature like Vedas, Gita, Puran, etc. This perhaps would help them to propagate their western faith and lifestyle.

  34. gustavo says:

    Hare Krisna Visa,
    Thanks for yuor instruction, yuo re my bone fide spiritual guru, please acept me.
    Yuor Gustavo

    • I don’t know you and you don’t know me. Accepting a spiritual master is not such a cheap thing. Read Srila Prabhupada’s books and he will guide you. That is all I am suggesting. Read Srila Prabhupada’s books, surrender to the instructions you find Srila Prabhupada giving you while you are reading his books and dedicate your life to serving Srila Prabhupada. Then you will be in safe hands for sure.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa



About the Author

My first contact with a Hare Krishna was a most merciful Mataji in Oxford Street, London who sold me a "Higher Taste" cook book in 1984 while I was on holidays there. I started seriously reading Srila Prabhupada's books in Australia 1985 and by 1986 Srila Prabhupada had convinced me "Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead" and "we should surrender to Krishna."I joined the Hare Krishnas in Perth, Western Australia in 1986. Since then I have been chanting Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, reading and distributing Srila Prabhupada's books and preaching as much as I can.That's my life and full-time occupation now really. I like it more than anything I've ever experienced before. Srila Prabhupada's books are so amazing... Even after reading them all many times they're still fresh and new. They are truly transcendental!That's it really. Now I'm just hankering to once again see the world chant Hare Krishna, dance and feast and float away in the ecstasy of Lord Caitanya's Sankirtana movement as it did in Srila Prabhupada's physical presence. Let the whole world drown in the ecstatic flood of love of Krishna!


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