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Published on November 26th, 2001 | by sudama-das | Full size image


ISKCON Hawaii Temple Update

We unfortunately had to leave the temple in Honolulu. The so-called GBC, Sruta Kirti, came through and made everyone sign an ‘oath of allegiance’ to the GBC and promise not to promote ritvik philosophy in the temple. I can’t honestly pledge allegiance to such a corrupt group of people. I have finally given up trying to change things within ISKCON – I think it has become far too corrupt…

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  1. prashant says:

    Hi all,
    I am hindu by birth. and i believe that there is a supreme lord and all other demigods are his/her part. he is the one who is unnamed , he is the one who is unseen,unknown. all other are his part only. SO saying this statement that all other demigods will never ever take us to moksha, i defy. and i dont say that lord krishna can not take us to moksha but i would say they that all are part of one eternity and naming that eternity will diminish the significance of that eternity.
    hare raam hare krishna!!

    • Yes. This is the general confusion of the Indians and you are the proof of that confusion.

      ‘You say’ this. But on what strength do you say this? It is just your idea.

      We have to accept the authority of Lord Krishna and if you will simply read His Bhagavad-gita As It Is with the commentary by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada then your confusion will be cleared up and you will be able to see things as they are.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      • Antigone says:

        Because Srila Prabuphada came to this Christian country and asked everyone to please give this religion a chance, all ISKCON devotees are under obligation to respect all religions even if they have strong beliefs about their own practices, in order to reciprocate what their spiritual master was asking others for. One should not elevate one’s beliefs over that of others. This is the sign of a true spiritual master. Scriptures are many; however, the truth is one.

        • Hare Krishna Antigone

          You are speaking rubbish here. It is true that we as Vaisnavas respect all genuinely religious people who are really actually genuinely following a true representative of God. But who now is truly following? Do you think the Muslims are following God by killing anyone, even other Muslims, they disagree with? Do you think that is what Allah wants? Do you think the watered down nonsense today’s Christians preach is even close to the original teachings of Lord Jesus Christ. No. Time destroys everything, so in the course of time the Muslims are not following Allah and the Christians are not following Christ. Similarly the Buddhists. Today’s Buddhists are almost all meat-eaters. But the principal teaching of Lord Buddha is ahimsa parama dharma, non-violence is the highest religious principle. So the Buddhists are not following Lord Buddha whose main preaching was that his followers should give up killing the animals.

          So the problem is who is following properly their religious principles? Practically speaking no one is following.

          Of course we very much respect that the Christians, the Muslims, the Buddhists, they go to their temples and churches and mosques and bow down before the Lord in humility and pray. This simple act of humble submission before the Lord is very valuable. Krishna is in everyone’s heart and He will guide anyone. No matter what religion he may be.

          So individually there may be some very saintly, very sincere souls but the actual organized religions have totally drifted far, far away from the original teachings.

          Krishna consciousness is not a belief. Krishna consciousness is the absolute truth. It is equally relevant for a Christian, a Muslim and a Buddhist. Krishna consciousness is the Science of God. So anyone who is searching for God, they can study Krishna consciousness and find God.

          It is like mathematics. One plus one equals two. There is no Christian mathematics and Muslim mathematics. No. One plus one is equal to two for everyone. So we are teaching the absolute spiritual principles that are true for everyone.

          Krishna consciousness is not a belief and it is the basis of every religious system. Krishna consciousness is the actual substance that every religious person is looking for.

          Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

          Madhudvisa dasa

  2. Kartikey Patel says:

    What is the best religious of the world?
    What is the base of all religion?

    most important

    What are you doing in your religion?

  3. Rasa Dasi says:

    Wow, it’s awful to go to this website with such a transcendental name,, and the first thing I see is negativity from Sudama. Interestingly, the most corrupt times at the Honolulu temple were when Sudama was in charge. Several devotees left not only the temple, but Krsna consciousness because of the way he treated them and the way they saw him treating other devotees as well.

  4. Ramananda says:

    In Sudama Prabhu comments on “ISKCON Hawaii Temple Update” from November 26, 2001 he is quite critical of the Honolulu temple. I would like to present a more positive view. Isn’t it possible to get more resent comments to appear first rather than earlier ones like Sudama’s from 2001?

  5. We have developed a new site that serves as an online temple for the Hare Krishna Movement on the Big Island of Hawaii. We list information for those that would like to participate in a daily Srimad Bhagavatam class held by conference call using Skype. We also display undated information on events and upcoming festivals. We are happy to host individuals that would like to visit our home near Volcano, Hawaii National Park which has been converted into a Hare Krishna Temple. We worship Govardhana Shila, Sri Nrishimha Murti and Srila Prabhupada Murti. Our temple is know as The Sri Giriraja Mandir. Visit for more information.

  6. Skanthavelu Nadarajah says:

    Raghupati Raghava Raja Ram Patita Pavana Sita Ram
    Sita Ram Jaya Sita Ram Patita Pavana Sita Ram (Raghupati Raghava)
    Ishwara Allah Tere Nam Sabko samnati de Bhagavan (Raghupati Raghava)

    Sai Ram!

  7. In my many years as a Hindu, I have heard many horror stories abound about ISKCON, many of which from my own personal experiences and from talking to people, turned out to be true.

    Many times when visiting the local ISKCON temple in my area, I have been told that if I want to come to the temple, I have to give up my own spiritual path and worship only Krishna, that I will only get moksha through the worship od the “Supreme Personality of Godhead” and that Ganesha, Shiva, Kali, Durga and other Hindu Gods and Goddesses are demigods. What a load of baloney!

    I have also seen alot of bashing of other Hindu religious and spiritual organizations/groups, such as the Sathya Sai Organization by seveal members/devotees of ISKCON. Other than fundamentalist Christians, Muslims and Jews, I have never seen such an intolerant, narrow minded, bigoted group of people in my life! Prabhupada had instructed you guys to spread the message of Lord Krishna, not to bash other people. I do not believe that Krishna is the only Supreme God, I do not believe that only He can grant moksha. I believe that Ganesha, Krishna, Durga, Kali and other Hindu deities are all forms/manifestations of the same One Supreme God and that one can attain moksha through any one of these beautiful forms.

    • Dear Skanthavelu

      Hare Krishna! You believe what you have heard from your parents and what you have heard in India as you grew up.

      Unfortunately there are so many misunderstandings about the Vedas which have been propagated by various unauthorzed “acharyas” in India so the result is most Hindus are quite confused about many fundamental principles clearly explained in teh Vedas.

      Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the cause of all causes. This is very elaborately explained in the books of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

      This idea that you are preaching that all the Hindu Gods are different manifestations of the same one supreme god is the impersonalist mayavadi philosophy and the mission of Srila Prabhupada and therefore the mission of the Hare Krishna movement is to rid the world of this mayavadi impersonal philosophy because this is compleatly against the philosophy of bhakti…

      You have no understanding at all of the Vedas. The principle of Visnu-tattva and Jiva-tattva has escaped you. There are two types of living entities, Visnu-Tattva and Jiva-Tattva. Visnu-tattva is Krishna and His direct expansions, all the “Visnu-Tattva” forms like Visnu, Lord Nrsimha, Lord Rama, etc. The demigods like Durga, Kali, Ganesh, etc are Jiva-tattva. Living entities like us who have become very qualified and who have been appointed to important positions within the universe.

      The jiva tattva can never be equal to the Visnu-tattva…

      You can never attain moksa for example by worshipping Durga. Because Durga is simply giving benefits within the material world. If you want moksa you have to worship the Visnu-tattva forms.

      This is so basic and so simple but 99% of the Hindus are blind to the simple fundamentals of the Vedas…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa


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