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Shri Chaitanya And The Koran

The following is from the Sri Caitanya Caritamrita, Madhya Lila, Vol.7. The Chapter is titled Lord Caitanya’s Visit to Sri Vrindavan. It clearly presents the Gaudiya Vaisnava conception in regards to the Koran and Islam. (Verses 159 thru 213)

While waiting, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, understanding that the others were fatigued,took them all beneath a tree and sat down.

There were many cows grazing near that tree, and the Lord was very pleased to see them.

Suddenly a cowherd boy blew on his flute, and immediatley the Lord was struck with ecstatic love.

Filled with ecstatic love, the Lord fell unconscious to the ground. He foamed about the mouth and His breathing stopped.

While the Lord was unconscious, ten cavalry soldiers belonging to the Mohammedan Pathana military order rode up and dismounted.

Seeing the Lord unconscious, the soldiers thought,”This Sanyasi must have possessed a large quantity of gold.”

“These four rogues here must have taken away that sanyasi’s riches after killing Him by making him take the poison dhutura.”

Thinking this, the Pathana soldiers arrested the four persons and decided to kill them. because of this, the two Bengalis began to tremble.

The devotee Krsnadasa, who belonged to the Rajaputa race, was very fearless. The Sanodiya brahmana was also fearless, and he spoke very bravely.

The Brahmana said,” You Pathana soldiers are all undr the protection of your King. Let us go to your commander and get his decision.”

“This Sanyasi is my Spiritual Master, and I am from Mathura. I am a brahmana and I know many people who are in the service of the Mohammedan king.”

“This sanyasi sometimes falls unconscious due to the influence of a disease. Please sit down here, and you will see that He will very soon regain consciousness and His normal condition.”

“Sit down here for a while and keep us all under arrest. When the Sanyasi regains His senses, you can question Him.Then, if you like, you can kill us all.”

The Pathana soldiers said,” You are all rogues. Two of you belong to the district of Mathura, and the other two, who are trembling, belong to Bengal.”

Rajaputa Krsnadasa said,” I have my home here, and I also have about 200 Turkish soldiers and about 100 cannons.”

“If I call loudly, they will come immediatley to kill you and plunder your horses and saddles.”

“The Bengali pilgrims are not rogues. You are rogues, for you want to kill the pilgrims and plunder them.”

Upon hearing this challenge, the Pathana soldiers became hesitant.Then suddenly Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu regained consciuosness.

Coming to His senses, the Lord very loudly began chanting the Holy Names, “HARI!HARI!”The Lord raised His arms upward and beagn to dance in ecstatic love.

When the Lord shouted very loudly in ecstatic love, it appeared to the Mohammedan soldiers that their hearts were struck by thunderbolts.

Seized by fear, all the Pathana soldiers immediatley released the four persons. Thus Sri Caitanya mahaprabhu did not see His personal associates under arrest.

At that time, Balabadra Bhattacarya went to Sri Caitanya and made Him sit down. Seeing the Mohammedan soldiers, the Lord regained His normal senses.

All the Mohammedan soldiers then came before the Lord, worshipped His lotus feet and said,”Here are four rogues.”

“These four rogues have made you take dhutura. Having made You mad, they have taken all your possesions.”

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said,” These are not rogues. They are My associates. Being a Sanyasi beggar, I do not possess anything.”

“Due to epilepsy, I sometimes fall unconscious. Out of their mercy, these four men maintain Me.”

Among the Muslims was a grave person who was wearing a black dress. People called him a saintly person.

The heart of that saintly Muslim softened upon seeing Sri Caitanya. He wanted to talk to Him and establish impersonal Brahman on the basis of his own scripture, the Koran.

When that person established the impersonal (Formless) Brahman conception of the Absolute Truth on the basis of the Koran, Sri Caitanya refuted his argument.

Whatever arguments he put forward, the Lord refuted them all. Finally the person became stunned and could not speak.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said,” The Koran has certainly established impersonalism, but at the end it refutes that impersonalism and establishes the personal God.”

The Koran accepts the fact that ultimately there is only One God. He is full of opulence, and His bodily complexion is Blackish.”

(A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada writes in his purport to this verse: The revealed scripture of the Mohammedans is the Koran. There is one Muslim sampradaya (school of thought) known as the Sufis. The Sufis accept impersonalism, believing in the oneness of the living entity with the Absolute Truth. Their supreme slogan is “analahak.” The Sufis Sampradaya was certainly derived from Adi Sankaracarya’s Advaitist impersonalism.)

“According to the Koran, the Lord has a supreme, blissful, transcendental body. He is the Absolute Truth, the all-pervading, omniscient and eternal being. He is the origin of everything.”

“Creation, maintainance and dissolution come from Him. He is the original shelter of all gross and subtle cosmic manifestations.”

“The Lord is the Supreme Truth worshipable by everyone. He is the cause of all causes. By engaging in His devotional service, the living entity is relieved from material existance.”

“No conditioned soul can get out of material bondage without serving the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Love at His lotus feet is the ultimate goal of life.”

(Purport by Prabhupada: According to the Muslim scripture, without evadat, offering prayers at a mosque or elsewhere 5 times daily (namaja), one cannot be successful in life. Sri Caitanya pointed out that in the revealed scripture of the Mohammedans, love of Godhead is the ultimate goal. Karma yoga and Jnana yoga are certainly described in the Koran, but ultimately the Koran states that the ultimate goal is the offering of prayers to the Supreme Person (evadat):)

“The happiness of liberation, whereby one merges into the Lord’s existance, cannot even be compared to a fragment of the transcendental bliss obtained by service unto the Lord’s lotus feet.”

“In the Koran there are descriptions of fruitive activity, speculative knowledge, mystic power and union with the Supreme, but ultimately everything is refuted as the Lord’s personal feature and His devotional service is established.”

“The scholars of the Koran are not very advanced in knowledge. Although there are many methods prescribed, they do not know that the ultimate conclusion should be considered the most powerful.”

“Seeing your own Koran and deliberating over what is written there, what is your conclusion?”

The Saintly Muslim replied,” All that You have said is true. This has certainly been written in the Koran, but our scholars can neither understand nor accept it.”

“Usually they describe the Lord’s impersonal aspect, but they hardly know that the Lord’s personal feature is worshipable. They are undoubtedly lacking this knowledge.”

“Since You are that very same Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, please be merciful upon me. I am fallen and unfit.”

“I have studied the Koran very extensively, but from it I cannot conclusively decide what the ultimate goal of life is nor how I can approach it.”

“Now that I have seen You, my tongue is chanting the Hare Krsna Maha Mantra. The false prsetige I felt from being a learned scholar is now gone.”

Saying this, the saintly Muslim fell at the lotus feet of Sri Caitanya mahaprahu and requested Him to speak of the ultimate goal of life and the process by which it could be obtained.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said,”Please get up. You have chanted the holy name of Krsna; therefore the sinful reactions you have accrued for many millions of lives are now gone. You are now pure.”

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu then told all the Mohammedans there,”Chant the holy name of Krsna! Chant the holy name of Krsna!” As they all began to chant, they were all overwhelmed by ecstatic love.

In this way Sri Caitanya indirectly initiated the saintly Mohammedan by advising him to chant the holy name of Krsna. The Mohammedan’s name was changed to Ramadasa. There was also another Pathana Muslim whose name was Vijuli Khan.

(Purport by Prabhupada: After being initiated, the devotees of Krsna change their names. Whenever a person in the western world becomes interested in this Krsna conscious movement he is initiated by this process. In India we are falsely accused of converting mlecchas and yavanas into the Hindu religion. In India, there are many Mayavadi sanyasis known as jagad-guru, although they have hardly visited the whole world. Some are even not sufficiently educated, yet they make accusations against our movement and accuse us of destroying the principles of the Hindu religion by accepting Muslims and yavanas as Vaishnavas. Such people are simply envious. We are not spoiling the Hindu system of religion but are simply following in the footsteps of Sri Caitanya by travelling all over the world and accepting those who are interested in understanding Krsna as Krsnadasa or Ramadasa. By the process of a bona fide initiation, their names are changed.)

Vijuli Khan was very young, and he was the son of the king. All the other Mohammedans, Pathanas, headed by Ramadasa, were his servants.

Vijuli Khan also fell down at the lotus feet of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and the lord placed His foot on his head.

Bestowing His mercy upon them in this way, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu left. All the Pathana Mohammedans then became mendicants.

Later these very Pathanas became celebrated as the Pathana Vaisnavas.They toured all over the country and chanted the glorious activities of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

Vijuli Khan became a greatly advanced devotee, and his importance was celebrated at every holy place of pilgrimage.

In this way Lord Caitanya performed His pastimes. Coming to the western part of India, He bestowed good fortune upon the yavanas and mlecchas.

(Prabhupada’s Purport: The word yavana means “meat eater.” Anyone from a meat-eating community is called a yavana. One who does not strictly observe the Vedic regulative principles is called a mleccha.These words do not refer to any particular person. Even if a person is born in a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya or sudra family, he is a mleccha or yavana if he does not strictly follow the regulative principle or if he eats meat.)


So as can be clearly seen, Krsna, Himself, as Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, did not reject the Koran or Islam, but rather encouraged the Muslims to recognize its authentic meaning. Prophet Mohammed recognized that the people of Arabia were hopelessly lost in rituals and idol worship and had forgotten that the goal of all worship is to please God. By removing the many diversions, he was able to focus his followers attention on the worship of the Supreme Godhead, who is the source of all the demigods and the goal of all sacrifice, charity, prayer and worship.

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22 Responses to Shri Chaitanya And The Koran

  1. IdPnSD says:

    Can any one tell me the definition of God?
    Please give at least one reference from any one of : Vedas, Ramayan, Mahabharat, or Gita.
    But no reference please from any one of : Upanishads or Vedantas

    • Definition of God is the Supreme Person.

      He is a person and we are people. But He is the supreme person, the original person. The one person who is providing for and maintaining all the other people.

      Another definition of God is Krishna. Krishna means “The all-attractive person.” So God is the person who has all attractive qualities in full. God has all knowledge, all strength, all fame, all beauty, all wealth and all renunciation.

      There are many definitions and you please read Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita As It Is yourself and you will find many definitions of God…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      • IdPnSD says:

        Reply to: Madhudvisa Dasa

        Thank you, I am glad that you did not say that God is the creator of the universe.

        Now, can any one eventually become a person like Krishna? Or a Supreme person? Can any one say that Ram of Ramyana was not as good as Krishna of Mahabharata? Was Byasdev or Balmiki less powerful and graceful than Krishna?

        This site is not very well equipped. When you reply I do not get notified.

        • Krishna is the creator of the universe. I am sorry if I did not say it, Krishna is the creator of the universe.

          And no. You can never become like Krishna. Krishna is eternally the Supreme Personality of Godhead and we remain eternally His servants.

          Lord Ramacandara is Krishna, Krishna appearing in a different mood.

          Veda Vyasa is an empowered incarnation of Krishna, as far as I know. That means jiva tattva, but empowered by Krishna for in this case writing the Vedas. So we can become empowered by Krishna. But we remain eternally servants of Krishna.

  2. Bhargava says:

    Hare Krishna Prabhu, Jay Prabhupada!

    Could you Please provide Quotes from the Koran for the above mentioned statements. This would be helpful for proving that Lord is the Supreme Person and not just power.

    • There is no point in providing quotes from the Koran. Actually the Koran, the Bible, etc, these are not perfect books. They are full of contradictions. This is what was uncovered in the conversation between Chand Kazi and Lord Caitanya. So it is pointless trying to preach from these books actually. They are not perfect. Of course they are very nice in the sense that the essential ideas of God and serving God and chanting His holy names are there in the Koran and the Bible. But it is not very well explained and is full of inconsistencies and it is not presented in any logical way.

      So there is no need for us to do anything else except realize the science of Krishna consciousness from reading Srila Prabhupada’s books and hearing his classes and we can preach pure Krishna consciousness and that will attract everyone. It is a total waste of time trying to convince people on the basis of the scriptures of the meat eaters for they are contradictory.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  3. kuna says:

    GOD IS ONE………..ALL RIVERS AND STREAM GOES TO SEA……RELIGION AND GOD is like this……..different religion…..everyone says there is only one GOD….
    GOD is in inside and not outside… the truth and speak only the truth and do not change the says the way you think…..

    Let the love of god flow in you….and feel him…every good thing is GOd
    Every bad things are created by us…….

    THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD….the rest of them in these world are angels and co-worker of GOD………………….they help you just like your parent and good friends…….if you have NO religion… ONLY one thing you have to do……DO GOOD …….

  4. nio says:

    @ Jugal

    These words, (“we take our”) don’t exist in the original text.

    This Koran vers 2.138 has no connection only with skin color (complexion) Arabs People and Humans Creator the Allah, but look at themself, and around you, and still, the whole universe,……….

    If we observe and ponder, we can see that Allah imbued every color and characteristic in His creation.

    For example, the color of the sky, the different colors of water and of the rivers, of dryness and of wetness, the colors of mountains, the colors of trees, the colors of different fruits. In a tree there is difference of color in every leaf, and there are differences in the colors of fruits and vegetables, and there are different colors in the natural resources of the Earth, and a difference in the colors of the sunrise and the sunset. The human race is descended from one father (Adam, as.) but our race has many colors. These differences of colors are but one indication of the power of Allah.


    • Jim p says:

      Exactly what I’m saying, the meaning is relative to purification, there is no Panthesim as asserted by these various commentators. The verse has nothing to do with colour of skin. There are translations above to make it more clear. ‘we take our’ not in the original, more of clarification due to the nature of classical Arabic, that’s why it’s in brackets to show it is not a translation of the text.

  5. Jugal says:

    The sura al-baqarah (2.138) of the quran states :
    sibgatallah wa man ‘ahsanu minallahi sibgah “we take our colour from allah and who is better than allah at colouring?”
    This means that the colour of the arabs analogously resembled allah’s colour. From the representation of allah’s complexion by the arabs, we can safely conclude that allah is of a beautiful dark or blackish complexion.

    • Azeem says:

      Again another idiot

      I give the two translations version

      YUSUF ALI: (Our religion is) the Baptism of Allah: And who can baptize better than Allah? And it is He Whom we worship.
      PICKTHAL: (We take our) colour from Allah, and who is better than Allah at colouring. We are His worshippers.

      Yusulf ali translation is more clear, you need to read the translation notes for pickthal to understand he’s not not taking about colour.

      Also you comment actually doesnt make sence. Tha arabs were more a an olive complextion and your interpretation is illogical.

  6. Beliver says:

    This article gives the personal aspect of Allah.

  7. Manu says:

    I wanted to know if cow killing is prohibited in Quran?If so please give me the reference Number.I want know what exactly does Prophet Mohammad say about Cow Killing?

    • jyo says:

      Hi Manu

      is written about animal sacrifices and give to charity.

      i found these verses too

      The flesh of sacrificial animals does not reach God and neither their blood; but only godliness from you reaches Him.’
      (al-Hajj 22: 37)(Al-Quran)

      ” Their flesh and their blood reach not Allah, but the devotion from you reacheth Him.” (Al-Qur’an 22:37)

      “Whoever is kind to the creatures of God is kind to himself.”
      —the saying of Prophet Mohammed

      When it is said to them: “Believe as the others believe:” They say: “Shall we believe as the fools believe?” Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know. (Surah 2. The Cow)

      Hare Krishna

      • Alfieadam says:

        Prophet said “the master of all foods is the meat” Meat is a highly nutritious diet, as doctors testify. There is no prohibition to be vegetarian in Islam, but any practising Muslim will come across meat on many Islamic occasions when meat is provided. For example, the sacrifice of sheep and distribution to the poor at the end of Hajj (pilgrimage). It should also be noted that it is not obligatory to eat meat in Islam.

        Halal is an Arabic word which means lawful or allowed. Halal with regards to food and drink means that it is permitted for Muslims under the Islamic Law (Shari’ah). Halal food and drink does not consist of anything which is deemed unlawful.

        Haraam is an Arabic word which means unlawful or forbidden. Haraam with regards to food and drink means that it is not permitted for Muslims under the Islamic Law (Shari’ah). It is considered a sin for a muslim to knowingly consume haraam food.

        There are many rules regarding halal and haraam with regards to food and drink. It is important to note that the rules may vary depending on necessity.

        Each individual should follow a Mujthahid and obtain a copy of his rulings. Please click here to jump to the page on following a Mujthahid. Within a Mujthahid’s rulings you will find many Islamic rules with regards to food and drink. We have also included below some rulings from Ayatullah Seestani, for a complete set of rulings from Ayatullah Seestani please click here, once in the site click on Islamic Laws.

        In the meantime please note the following very general points:

        Anything from a pig, meat and by-products etc, are all haraam.
        Drinking alcohol is haraam.

        Halal animals should be slaughtered according to Islamic law. Many towns now have a halal butchers shop.
        If a halal animal, eg cow, is not slaughtered in accordance with Islamic law then the meat becomes haraam for Muslims.
        Carrion is haraam

        A few rulings from Islamic Laws by Ayatullah Seestani:

        2633. All birds, like eagle, vultures and wild falcons having a claw and talon, are haraam to eat. And all such birds whose gliding is more than flapping the wings, and have talons, are also haraam to eat. Those whose flapping of the wings while flying, is more than gliding, are halal to eat.
        Thus, one can identify halal birds from haraam ones by observing how they fly. And if the style of any bird’s flight cannot be determined, that bird will be considered halal for eating, if it has a crop or a gizzard or a spur on the back of its feet. In the absence of all these, the bird will be haraam. As an obligatory precaution, one should refrain from eating the meat of all types of crows.
        Other birds like the hens, the pigeons, the sparrows including the ostrich and the peacock are halal to eat, but it is Makrooh to kill birds like swallows and hoopoes. And the animals which fly, but are not classified as winged birds, like the bats, are haraam; similarly, the bees, the mosquitoes, and other flying insects are, as an obligatory precaution, haraam.

        2634. If a part which possesses life is removed from the body of a living animal, for example, if the fatty tail or some flesh is removed from the body of a living sheep, it is najis and haraam to eat.

        2635. Certain parts of the halal animals are haraam to eat. They are fourteen:

        Male and female genitals
        Pituitary gland, a ductless gland in the brain
        The marrow which is in the spinal cord
        The two wide (yellow) nerves which are on both sides of the spinal cord, (as an obligatory precaution).
        Gall bladder
        Urinary bladder
        Eye balls

  8. Manu says:

    idrisazad you said Quran “calls both having personal properties like hands, face, eyes, color, etc and impersonal properties like light, sound, instance less etc”

    please give me reference number

  9. Manu says:

    “According to the Koran, there are two ways of advancement—through increasing the propensity to enjoy, and through decreasing the propensity to enjoy. On the path of decreasing attachment [nivåtti-märga], the killing of animals is prohibited.
    Ädi 17.157

    Can any one tell me in which aiyat it is there.

  10. idrisazad says:

    I am studying KC since 4 months approximately. As much I came to understand is that Krishna is the same purity which is called Allah near Muslims. The Arabic word Quran means “most read”. It means the book are the script which is most read in all sense. It’s the same meaning of “Parano” in old Hindi containing the same meanings. Anyway, when I have come to know that KC has the most excellent conceptualization of God, my heart became melted for KC at all.
    Surah Al-Hashar Aayat Number 22+23+24
    He is Allah, besides Whom there is none to be worshipped, the Knower of everything hidden and open. He is the Most Affectionate, the Merciful (23)

    He is Allah, the Makers the Creater, the Bestower of form to everyone. His are all good names; all that is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him: and He is the Esteemed One the Wise. (24)

    Surah Ikhlas complete
    Say you, He is Allah, the one. (1)

    Allah the Independent, Care free.(2)
    He begot none’ nor was He begotten.(3)
    And nor anyone is equal to Him. (4)

    Surah Ash-Shura : Ayat 11
    The Maker of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you pairs of your own selves and male and female cattle, whereby He spreads your race. Nothing is Like Him, and He is the All-Hearing, All-seeing. (11)

    Surah An-Nur : Ayat 35
    Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His Light is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a chandelier (of glass). The chandelier is as it were a star glittering like a pearl; it is lighted from the blessed olive tree which is neither of east nor of west, it is near that its oil may flare up even though the fire touches it not. The Light is upon the Light. Allah guides to His Light whomsoever He will and Allah narrates examples for the people. And Allah knows all things.(35)

    Surah Al-Qasas : Ayat 88
    And worship not another god with Allah. There is no god besides Him. Everything is perishable save His Being. His is the command and towards Him, you shall be returned. (88)

    Quran calls both having personal properties like hands, face, eyes, color, etc and impersonal properties like light, sound, instance less etc.

  11. Tahir says:

    they can tell you but only if such verse exists in the quran

    • aman says:

      then why do u say
      ALLAH KAALA ……….
      IT MEANS
      GOD IS BLACK …………

  12. Gaurav says:

    Please tell which aayat in quran tells that god is blackish in nature.

  13. kapil singhal says:

    Hare Krishna Prabhuji,

    can u tell me aayats from kuran that say God is blackish in complexsion.


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