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Re: Liquid Beauty and Buddhism

choi@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Yong Joo CHOI) wrote:
 
>madhudvisa@krishna.org (Madhudvisa dasa       ) writes:
 
 
>>Your next body is certainly different from the current one. The current
>>one is clearly rotting in the coffin.. Or burnt to ashes.. It is the soul
>>that is the same...
 
>>As far as the "firm ground of fundamental existence" you are starting to
>>sound like a Buddhist here and I could never understand Buddhists! Perhaps
>>you should have put the smile in...
 
>>As for the road we should be traversing we have to find the one that leads
>>us back home, back to Godhead...
 
>   I have seen a number of good points by Mr. swami but it appears that
>   you havn't been exposed to the core of Buddhism yet.  If you read some
>   good books on Tibetan Buddhism then you will be surprised  to find there
>   is a firm concept of God which is  so supreme that it defies any attempt
>   to describe with our mundane language.
 
I am more interested in the teachings of Buddha himself. I have sometimes read
various books on Buddhism but there is, as I am sure you will admit, a very great
variation in the beliefs of so many Buddhist groups.
 


The background to Lord Buddha's appearance is in India, before his appearance, the
people in general were following the Vedic scriptures but they were
misinterpreting the sections on animal sacrifice and had practically turned every
place into a slaughter-house.
 
So Lord Buddha appeared to introduce his philosophy of non-violence to stop the
animal killing. He had to reject the Vedic scriptures [which are theistic] so he
said, "I reject any scripture which condones animal killing." And he went on to
describe his philosophy without mentioning God. There is no God in his original
teachings. If the Tibetan Buddhists have discovered God as a result of their
Buddhist meditation then that is fantastic and I am very pleased. But Lord Buddha
didn't say anything about God...
 
 
>   You often imply that your religon is higher than any other religion human
>   beings have ever encountered on this planet.
 
There is only one religion, to develop love for God. So I have never said that
Hare Krishna's are the only ones who can develop love for God. God is in everyones
heart, He doesn't look to see what denomination we are, he sees our desire to
serve Him, our love for Him...
 
>  But the thing is all the
>   religions we have cherished are regarded as a dogmatised mummy that is the
>   first hindrance to real "civilisation".
 
You mean they restrict your sense gratification. For you and our "civilization"
generally "advancement" means more sense pleasure... More sex, more drugs, more
parties, more "consumer goods". But religion is about reestablishing our
relationship with God... It's not very popular these days... But your
"civilization" is only for a few days... We are eternal spirit souls. Your
"civilization" is only for a few days...
 
>  All the religion are just like
>   different pathes which lead to the same goal, at least in their origianl
idea
 
Yes. And all the roads leaving Sydney end up at Melbourne...
 
>   but sadly we hopeless human beings have distorted their idea too much
>   since their conception.  There is a harsh criticism on our "culture" that
>   includes religion, politician, journalism, money, etc.  But I am not sure
>   how many of us can understand and believe it if I present the source of
>   that criticism. I suggest those interested go and find good source not just
>   book on religion but some other sources as well.
 
Yes, there is truth here. We have distorted so many things. But if you want the
clear message is there. You can read Bhagavad-gita As It Is, or Srimad Bhagavatam.
Everything is there. We think we get pleasure from this "civilization" but it only
gives us trouble. We think there will be so many difficulties in serving
Krishna... But that's where the real pleasure is.
 
 
                          satatam kirtayanto mam
                          yatantas ca drdha-vratah
                        namasyantas ca mam bhaktya
                            nitya-yukta upasate
 
"Always chanting My glories, endeavoring with great determination,
bowing down before Me, these great souls perpetually worship Me with
devotion." (Bhagavad-gita 9.14)
 
 
 
Thank you. Hare Krishna!
 
Madhudvisa dasa       
(madhudvisa@krishna.org)     /sudarsana
 

All glories to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!
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