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Dear Charlie,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
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>More on this later, but what what I have learned from reading Srila
>Prabhupada, and his spiritual master Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur,
>and Bhaktivinode Thakur, etc., is that the words that come from the
>mouths of the pure devotees all spring from one source, one Person. So
>in the words of every sincere devotee we hear from Srila Prabhupada, so
>I thank you again for your comments, which I will consider carefully.
>
>But I was just a little disappointed you did not post your reply to the
>ARV newsgroup. The reason I posted what I did there instead of email
>(what was clearly a person-to-person message) was simply my wishful
>attempt to prod some kind of higher dialog than what seems to be typical
>in ARV. I am really bummed by the TRASH put there in such large
>quantities by oddballs who seem to have nothing better to do. I'm sure
>all there could benefit from your counsel in your reply to my message.
>
I did post it to ARV as well so it should be there.
As far as books other than Prabhupada's I have "said my piece" and it
wasn't my piece it was Prabhupada's piece, I just repeated it. I have
no intention of getting into a discussion with you about it. Comes a
time we just have to obey the instructions of our spiritual master even
though our mind tells us otherwise.
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>> Service is also very important. There is really no meaning to our love
>> for Srila Prabhupada and Krishna unless we do something for them.
>> Service, engaging our senses in the service of Krishna under the
>> guidance of the spiritual master is most important. Of course reading
>> is also most important and we are always hankering after sadhu-sanga...
>
>Yes, service. But I find this topic difficult and it makes me depressed
>because whatever I do seems inadequate.
A devotee always feels inadequate, but a devotee is supposed to use all
his energy for serving Krishna then feel inadequate...
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>> "Shelter International" is just me at the moment but
>> the idea is to develop an organization of devotees dedicated to
>> fulfilling the desires of Srila Prabhupada...
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>That's an intriguing statement. I had hoped that ISKCON was such an
>organization. As I mentioned, I'm active in ISKCON Foundation. Within
>the Foundation there is much dissatisfaction with the current state of
>affairs in ISKCON, so it is my very business to seek out devotees with
>similar frustrations and hopes, and consider their viewpoints very
>carefully. The Foundation is itself not without its problems, but we do
>hope that one tangible thing we can contribute to ISKCON is simply
>management training on how to administrate the temples better. Simple
>things like "why not standardize the accounting software" so that as
>devotees travel they do not have to learn multiple new systems, so that
>GBC in charge of multiple temples can look at temple reports in the same
>format, etc., etc., simple practical things like that. Nobody can be
>happy with how the temples, particularly in North America, have been
>managed and are being managed or mismanaged.
In ISKCON everyone is dissatisfied only because they don't follow Srila
Prabhupada's instructions... It's a very simple thing. It doesn't have
anything to do with the computer accounting program you use!
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>> As far as ISKCON you probably know better than me.
>
>So I got vibes from your post that you are ambivalent as regards your
>association with ISKCON ?
>
Yes. One can be Krishna consciousness anywhere.
Hare Krishna.
Thank you. Hare Krishna!
Madhudvisa dasa
(madhudvisa@krishna.org) /sudarsana
All glories to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!
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