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St Franciss of Assisi

• Subject: St Franciss of Assisi
• From: Wolfgang B
• Date: Mon Jan 29 11:42:21 1996
• Message-Id: id723

Dear Wolfgang



Hello. Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila

Prabhupada!



Thanks for your letter. The main thing for us is to be Krishna conscious. Inside

or outside ISKCON we can still chant Hare Krishna, read Srila Prabhupada's books

and preach. So we should vow to follow the four regulative principles, chant at

least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna maha mantra daily and always read Srila

Prabhupada's books. Then our spiritual success will be sure and inside or outside

ISKCON we will not be wasting our very valuable human life. It is said that to

waste even a second not thinking about and serving Krishna is the greatest waste.

Even a second can't be replaced with millions of dollars...



I have heard of St Franciss of Assisi. There is an order of priests here in

Austraila called the Franscisians and when Srila Prabhupada visited Australia one

time he spoke to a whole semaniry. There were about 50 priests and Prabhupada gave

a wonderful class and he agreed with the teachings of St Franciss. I can't

remember the details completely, It would be good if you got the tape yourself and

listened to it. I think he was a vegetarian? He talks about "brother tree",



"brother cow"? Anyhow Prabhupada's class was a great success. It was very much

appreciated by all the priests who gave a very enthusiastic applause and asked

lots of nice questions.



Of course there were many problems in ISKCON when Srila Prabhupada was physically

present as well, but you would never know by listening to his classes or reading

his books [with the exception of a few mentions in the Sri Caitanya-caritamrta].

Srila Prabhupada always preached completely from the spiritual platform. His

lectures and books are timeless. So his teachings will shine through long, long

after all the GBC members and bogus gurus are completely forgotten. So it is not

good to concentrate on the problems, we have to be positive and do something

ourselves to advance in Krishna consciousness and to help others advance also. It

is not that Srila Prabhupada ignored the problems either, you can read his letters

and see that he spent much time solving the problems in ISKCON. But that didn't

effect his preaching, he didn't preach about the problems, he solved them...



I don't like criticizing, and I don't think there is much to be gained from going

into all the old problems of "Zonal Acaryas", Bhagavan, etc... Still they have

spoiled so many things in ISKCON, and I don't know what to do either. I don't like

to be separate from ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada said we should remain in ISKCON no

matter what -- even if the GBC turn it into hell [which they have almost done]

Some devotees are recommending I should work from within to try and help correct

things, but they won't let me stay in the temples... So it is not such a practical

suggestion. So my only option is to preach separately. I miss the devotees, the

Deities, the temple program, etc. But what to do?



The main thing is to become Krishna conscious. Chant Hare Krishna, read Srila

Prabhupada's books, etc... I have also been thrown out by Harikesa Swami and I

don't think he would treat me very well if I visited his zone again... So it is a

very difficult situation.



Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!



Your servant



Madhudvisa dasa



>

>Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories, all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

>

>My name is Wolfgang and I'm living in Vienna, Austria. I've read some of your

>postings in the WWW, especially the mail about ISKCON after Srila Prabhupada left.

>it helped me very much to adjust my spiritual live, because I think you've pointed

>out some very important problems. Since I know ISKCON, I where not able to trust

>the organisation and the leading devotees 100%, although they claim this ISKCON is

>Prabhupadas organisation (which, of course it is, but no more 100% - I think you

>would agree). As you've done, I've seen in ISKCON things, I couldn't agree with.

>Junk-"sankirtan", pseudo-devotees looking to get on top or maltreat other

>devotees, "brahmanas" who aren't what they claim to be and other worse things -

>won't talk about it. I won't reject ISKCON or criticise to much, because I'am not

>perfect too.

>

>Perhaps you know Franz from Assisi? He was a very holy person (christianity) and

>a great devotee too. Although the standard of the christian church was at his time

>very, very low, he does not say anything against all the horrible things going on.

>His whole life told, what to say about. And he was successful. Much people have

>change their life, taking the path of "bhakti-yoga".

>

>Thank you for your postings. I'm looking forward to read more about your

>experiences in (and out of) ISKCON.

>

>Hare Krishna!

>

>Wolfgang

>

>PS: Are there some other informations about ISKCON after Srila Prabhupadas

>disappearance? Who where the "zonal acaryas" and what happend with them and their

>disciples before and after they fall down? There are many rumours here in europe

>about Bhagavan, but what is true? I know some "older" devotees, who where thrown

>out of the temple, because they have criticised Harikesa Swami, and I'am not very

>lucky with this Swami, too. If I join ISKCON, I'm afraid he could be the one, I

>couldn't stand anymore, and then, if I'm going to say something against him, his

>disciples will throw me out. As long as I have not clear out this point it is

>better for me, not to join. This doesn't makes me very happy.things, but live is

>to short for for wasting on such material things.fugitive

>

> more worse

>

>

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