Dear Hridesh Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada! Thanks for your letter and comments. I see you are writing from India so you have somewhat of a different perspective of things than us in the West. It's true there are many sincere devotees in ISKCON. That is a fact. But the problem is ISKCON has developed a system whereby ordinary men are voted in as gurus by the GBC. But ordinary men can't give us Krishna consciousness. That can only be done by Krishna's pure devotees, who are not appointed by some mundane management committee, they are self-effulgent. "Unfortunately in this Age of Kali there are many mundane persons in the dress of Vaisnavas, and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has described them as disciples of Kali. He says, kali-cela. He indicates that there is another Vaisnava, a pseudoVaisnava with tilaka on his nose and kanthi beads around his neck. Such a pseudoVaisnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaisnavas. Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava. Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore says that such a pseudoVaisnava is not a Vaisnava at all but a disciple of Kali-yuga. A disciple of Kali cannot become an acarya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaisnava acarya. A Vaisnava acarya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false acarya may try to override a Vaisnava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Thakura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga." (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 1.220) So that is the problem. So many disciples of Kali in the dress of Vaisnavas in ISKCON... We have to be conscious of this and not just blindly accept anyone who shaves his head and wears tilok as a devotee of Krishna. We have to test and see if he has actually developed the qualities of a pure devotee of Krishna. "Pure devotion is as much infectious, in a good sense, as infectious diseases. A pure devotee is cleared from all kinds of sins. The Personality of Godhead is the purest entity, and unless one is equally pure from the infection of material qualities, one cannot become a pure devotee of the Lord. The bhakti-vedantas as above mentioned were pure devotees, and the boy became infected with their qualities of purity by their association and by eating once the remnants of the foodstuff taken by them. Such remnants may be taken even without permission of the pure devotees. "There are sometimes pseudodevotees, and one should be very much cautious about them. "There are many things which hinder one from entering devotional service. But by the association of pure devotees all these obstacles are removed. The neophyte devotee becomes practically enriched with the transcendental qualities of the pure devotee, which means attraction for the Personality of Godhead's name, fame, quality, pastimes, etc. "Infection of the qualities of the pure devotee means to imbibe the taste of pure devotion always in the transcendental activities of the Personality of Godhead. This transcendental taste at once makes all material things distasteful. "Therefore a pure devotee is not at all attracted by material activities. After the elimination of all sins or obstacles on the path of devotional service, one can become attracted, one can have steadiness, one can have perfect taste, one can have transcendental emotions, and at last one can be situated on the plane of loving service of the Lord. All these stages develop by the association of pure devotees, and that is the purport of this stanza." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.5.25) "A pure devotee of the Lord automatically develops all godly qualities, and some of the prominent features of those qualities are as follows: he is kind, peaceful, truthful, equable, faultless, magnanimous, mild, clean, nonpossessive, a well-wisher to all, satisfied, surrendered to Krsna, without hankering, simple, fixed, self-controlled, a balanced eater, sane, mannerly, prideless, grave, sympathetic, friendly, poetic, expert and silent." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.13) As far as pure devotees existing in ISKCON, there may well be, but the ISKCON of today gives them a VERY hard time. Actually Krishna consciousness is uncheckable, no material difficulties can stop it. Prahlada Maharaja was born as the son of Hiranyakasipu, the greatest demon, but -- even though he was surrounded by demons -- he didn't forget Krishna for a second. That's the main thing. We have to organize our lives so we never forget Krishna for a single second... So Prahlada was a pure devotee even among so many demons, it may be possible in ISKCON also... The difficulty in ISKCON is one has to take initiation from one of the GBC approved "Gurus". Otherwise life is very, very difficult. There are no self-effulgant pure devotees among the GBC gurus, at lest they have not shown themselves yet... And there are many demons. The history shows us that very clearly. We've had homosexual child molesters like Bhavananda (who's now back living in the Sydney temple in Australia ready for a second chance) and Kirtanananda (who's now in prison), we've had drug addicts and women-hunters like Jayatirtha, we have had all sorts of materially motivated persons after wealth, followers, fame, sex, etc... We've also had (and have) so many Mayavadi and impresonal gurus. It's amazing. Some have come form India as the whole of India is contaminated by the Mayavadi philosophy of Sripada Sankaracarya, and we have many Western Mayavadis as well. The Mayavadis may well be chanting 16 rounds and following the principles but their preaching is deadly: "If anyone wants to derive transcendental pleasure by hearing the pastimes of the Lord, he must hear from the authoritative source, as explained here. Maitreya heard the narration from his bona fide spiritual master, and Vidura also heard from Maitreya. One becomes an authority simply by presenting whatever he has heard from his spiritual master, and one who does not accept a bona fide spiritual master cannot be an authority. This is clearly explained here. If one wants to have transcendental pleasure, he must find a person with authority. It is also stated in the Bhagavatam that simply by hearing from an authoritative source, with the ear and the heart, one can relish the pastimes of the Lord, otherwise it is not possible. Sanatana Gosvami, therefore, has especially warned that one should not hear anything about the personality of the Lord from the lips of a nondevotee. Nondevotees are considered to be like serpents; as milk is poisoned by a serpent's touch, so, although the narration of the pastimes of the Lord is as pure as milk, when administered by serpentlike nondevotees it becomes poisonous. Not only does it have no effect in transcendental pleasure, but it is dangerous also. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has warned that no description of the pastimes of the Lord should be heard from the Mayavada, or impersonalist, school. He has clearly said, mayavadi-bhasya sunile haya sarva nasa: if anyone hears the Mayavadis' interpretation of the pastimes of the Lord, or their interpretation of Bhagavad-gita, Srimad-Bhagavatam or any other Vedic literature, then he is doomed. Once one is associated with impersonalists, he can never understand the personal feature of the Lord and His transcendental pastimes. "Suta Gosvami was speaking to the sages headed by Saunaka, and therefore he addressed them in this verse as dvija, twice-born. The sages assembled in Naimisaranya hearing Srimad-Bhagavatam from Suta Gosvami were all brahmanas, but to acquire the qualifications of a brahmana is not everything. Merely to be twice-born is not perfection. Perfection is attained when one hears the pastimes and activities of the Lord from a bona fide source." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.19.34) ------------------------------------------- And ISKCON have advertised all of them (the homosexuals, the child molesters, the men seeking fame, followers, wealth and of course the Mayavadis and impersonalists) as pure devotees, paramahamsa's on the same level as Srila Prabhupada... To be worshipped on the same level as Krishna... But when someone wants to serve Srila Prabhupada directly that's something ISKCON cannot accommodate at all. According to them Srila Prabhupada is now dead... You need a "living guru"... So you are expected to take pot luck and chose someone from the group of homosexuals, child molesters, power freeks and Mayavadis they have on offer... Do you really think if there was actually a pure devotee in ISKCON the GBC would appoint him as a guru?? Or would he want to be part of this system? Pure devotion is not one of the selection criteria at all. If the local temple authorities agree and none of the GBC have any objections then he gets the green light... He can then canvass disciples in ISKCON and get them to worship him on the same level as Srila Prabhupada and Krishna... As a result thousands of innocent young people's lives have been completely destroyed. Many come to Krishna consciousness after reading Srila Prabhupada's books. Srila Prabhupada preaches to them and convinces them Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and the purpose of life is to serve Krishna... And then they join the temple thinking this is Prabhupada's organization... But very soon they find they are being forced to formally "aspire" to be initiated by some other "living guru"... That means forget about Prabhupada's lecture tapes -- listen to his lecture tapes, forget about Prabhupada's books -- read his books (they say one can't understand Prabhupada's books -- you have to hear them explained by a "living guru"!! Why then did Srila Prabhupada spend so much time writing his books I wonder?), and it means joining that guru's "clique" in the temple... So it is a complete distraction from Srila Prabhupada, the undisputed paramahamsa capable of giving us all Krishna consciousness... If you should be so fortunate to see through this scam to steal Srila Prabhupada's disciples from him and want to keep your relationship with Srila Prabhupada -- after all it was Srila Prabhupada who preached to you (at least in my case), it was he who dispelled all your dobuts about Krishna consciousness, it was he who answered all your questions at every step, it was he who pulled you back up when Maya knocked you out... -- ISKCON has no place for you. You are thrown out on the street, called a demon, they send their lawyers out to get you should you be such an offender as to try and preach outside ISKCON... Anyhow we are very attached to Srila Prabhupada. I think you can understand that. It's rather rude when someone comes up to you and says "you need a living guru prabhu... Prabhupada's dead now..." as is the current ISKCON mood. My personal experience is Srila Prabhupada is not at all dead, he's living in transcendental sound. Srila Prabhupada's mercy is such that I (and everyone else anywhere in the world) can associate with him constantly, 24 hours a day. Here Srila Prabhupada is singing bhajans 24 hours a day, right now he is saying "krsna-kirtana-gana-nartana-parau... ...vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau" This morning I heard Srila Prabhupada give two classes, one from the Srimad Bhagavatam and one from the Bhagavad-Gita. I read one chapter from his Srimad-Bhagavatam and later I will read something from Bhagavad-gita, Sri Caitanya-caritamrta and Krsna Book. So in this way I can associate with Srila Prabhupada and Krishna 24 hours a day... And they say: "What about questions?, How can you ask Srila Prabhupada questions?" but Prabhupada always answers my questions. Whatever the problem is, whatever questions I have, I just go on reading Srila Prabhupada's books and hearing his classes and he always answers my questions. All the answers are in Srila Prabhupada's books. Everything is in Srila Prabhupada's books. There has never been a time when Srila Prabhupada has not answered my questions. So there is no question in my mind as to who is my spiritual master. "If one simply regularly chants and follows the rules and regulative principles all questions of philosophy will be answered by Krsna from within and all doubt will be cleared also in this way. And the same answer are there again in our books like Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Srimad-Bhagavatam, etc. So please see that all the initiated devotees stick rigidly to their daily chanting and regulative living in devotional service. This is most important. Hope this will meet you in good health. Your ever well-wisher, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami" (Letter to Madhudvisa 14 Feb 1970) Before I knew anything of the politics of "ritvic", etc. I knew Srila Prabhupada was my spiritual master, he's the person who told me about Krishna, he's the person who trained me how to become Krishna consciousness and he's the person still guiding me at every moment. So I asked a senior disciple of Srila Prabhupad if he could initiate me on behalf of Srila Prabhupada. He agreed and held the fire sacrifice in front of Srila Prabhupada, in front of the Deities and in front of the Vaisnavas. He gave me the name "Madhudvisa dasa" and gave me second initiation also by teaching me how to chant the gayatri mantra and playing the tape of Srila Prabhupada chanting the gayatri in my right ear. So that was a simple thing for me. Official confirmation of the relationship I already had with Srila Prabhupada. So the ISKCON fanatics can scream at the tops of their voices, "You need a living guru!! Prabhupada is dead!!!!" BUT I KNOW SRILA PRABHUPADA IS ALIVE AND VERY WELL. He is living in sound... we just have to listen very carefully and attentively... and the dormant love of Krishna within our hearts will awaken and we will experience real transcendental bliss... that's the potency of the real Maha-Bhagavata, the real pure devotee, the real Jagat-Guru... With all due respects I don't see that transcendental ecstasy developing in the ISKCON devotees, however, I am feeling great bliss hearing Srila Prabhupada, reading Srila Prabhupada's books and trying in some small way to tell other people of the great treasure Srila Prabhupada is giving us... After some time I discovered the initiation from Srila Prabhupada I took was actually the system established by Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada didn't appoint 11 acaryas as his successors as ISKCON still claim, even though the so-called "acaryas" have shown themselves to be not fit for the title and the whole Zonal Acarya system self-destructed in the early '90's. Srila Prabhupada actually apointed ritvic priests who were to accept disciples on Srila Prabhupada's behalf. So the "leading men" in ISKCON schemed to hide this from the devotees and claimed Srila Prabhupada appointed them as his successors... And the rest is history... According to the ISKCON database the following letter is the third last letter Srila Prabhupada wrote before leaving his body in 1977 at Vrndavana. There are also other letters ISKCON has somehow or other misplaced along with many tape recordings of conversations, etc. which are mysteriously missing. One letter to Hansadutta on the 10th of July, 1977 states: "You are a suitable person and you can give initiation to those who are ready for it. I have selected you among 11 men as "ritvik" or representative of the acarya, to give initiation, both first and second, on my behalf." There is a letter to Kirtananda Swami on the 11th July, 1977 from Tamala Krishna, Srila Prabhupada's secretary at that time, stating: "Srila Prabhupada has appointed thus far eleven representatives who will initiate new devotees on his behalf." There's another letter to Hansadutta on the 31st of July, 1977 stating "Now you have a very good field. Now organize it and it will be a great credit. Make your own field and coontinue to be rittvik and act on my behalf... July Letter to: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents -- Vrindaban 9 July, 1977 To All G.B.C., and Temple Presidents Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all of the GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as " ritvik- representative of the acarya, for the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation. His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity: His Holiness Kirtanananda Swami His Holiness Satsvarupa dasa Gosvami His Holiness Jayapataka Swami His Holiness Tamala Krsna Gosvami His Holiness Hrdayananda Gosvami His Holiness Bhavananda Gosvami His Holiness Hamsaduta Swami His Holiness Ramesvara Swami His Holiness Harikesa Swami His Grace Bhagavan dasa Adhikari His Grace Jayatirtha dasa Adhikari In the past Temple Presidents have written to Srila Prabhupada recommending a particular devotee' s initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative. After the Temple President receives a letter from these representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has acceted him or her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace's " Initiated Disciples" book. Hoping this finds you all well. Your servant, Tamala Krsna Gosvami Secretary to Srila Prabhupada Approved: A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami ISKCON have no way of explaining these letters. They simply change the subject if one mentions them... ISKCON still claims Srila Prabhupada appointed successors--they just pretend these letters don't exist... It's a case of knowingly disobeying the instructions of the spiritual master and of course this is a great offense, how can such offenders help anyone advance in Krishna consciousness? There may be other pure devotee acaryas in the future as there have been in the past. That is required of course and Krishna will make the necessary arrangements in this regard. BUT VAISNAVA ACARYA IS SELF-EFFULGANT... As when the sun is in the sky one doesn't have to look very hard to find it, when Prabhupada was travelling all over the world preaching everyone could see he was a pure devotee, everyone could see he was very special, everyone could see he was empowered by Krishna... even the nondevotees... (except his envious godbrothers and now many of his "disciples" are envious also... They want to be "Prabhupada" too. But they don't want to follow Prabhupada's instructions...) Please take Srila Prabhupada's instructions very seriously and don't be fooled by the disciples of Kali dressed as Vaisnavas who are very prominent in ISKCON at the present moment. All glories to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, my eternal spiritual master. Chant Hare Krishna and be happy Madhudvisa dasa