Dear Chris Thanks for your comment my ecstasy page. We don't need "ecstasy" [the chemical]. You can be in REAL ecstasy 24 hours a day by chanting: Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare The pills are fake, it's an expensive illusion only. You're trying to change your consciousness because you don't like material consciousness. You're suffering in the material world -- ecstasy is but a momentary relief. There is a spiritual world, where we are eternal, full of knowledge and full of bliss, that is our natural position, but because of our desire to become the master ourselves instead of accepting our natural position as servants of Krishna, God, we have come her to this miserable material world. We are spirit souls entrapped within these material bodies and our disease is we identify with the body, thinking "I am an American man...", but it is the body only. The body suffers, the body gets old, the body gets sick and the body dies. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOUR "ECSTASY" CAN DO ABOUT IT. But I, the spirit-soul, the person within don't suffer, I am eternal, full of knowledge and full of bliss. We don't belong here in the material world, it is not our home. We belong in the spiritual world. Everyone is looking for Krishna, they just don't know how to find Him.... Chant Hare Krishna and be happy! Madhudvisa dasa >Listen, ecstasy (MDMA) is not a bad thing. have you ever tried it ? I've >practiced meditaion, and I've practiced yoga, and I've used MDMA. I find all >of these to have a profound spiritual effect on my life. > > >Chris Leary >