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i meant to say, I am still learning to be simple (now) and not be discouraged that i cannot live as i did when in the temple. As for my mind being warped, i admit it wasn’t the fault of anyone at the temple, but my own foolishness and karma also.
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On May 30, 2020 @ 8:43 am
Jill wrote such an outstanding message. I want to spread that basic common-sense message far & wide, high and low, to every corner of the globe for all devotees to hear; they will save lots of time and trouble to just surrender to Krsna in a simple way through Srila Prabhupada.
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On January 19, 2020 @ 4:45 am
YES! Very nice to hear from you, especially nice because your mind was not warped as mine was cuz I lived in Temple (1989-93) and was young; still gradually learning to just be simple. Thanks very much for writing this important message.
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On January 19, 2020 @ 4:39 am
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On December 28, 2018 @ 2:02 pm
Haribol Rukmini~ he is right as for it being disturbing. But some of us, including myself, have read “The Guru Business” & listened to much info on the poisoning, etc etc. To rise above our mental distress regarding all these horrors, my thought is we need to see ourselves as Prabhupada & Krsna’s little warriors ! Fear not! Pray to Lord Nrsmhadev lots & go forward. I think we came in touch with all that because Krsna wanted us to see how bad people can get, to not trust anyone too quickly, and to put ALL our trust only in the proven pure devotee, His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On December 27, 2018 @ 7:37 am
Very insightful, you are helping me a lot. I know I have not been serious enough but want to become fixed and totally committed to Srila Prabhupada. Thanks again for taking the time and making the effort to speak the truth.
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On December 27, 2018 @ 7:25 am
Amen,,, yes! Thank you for boldly speaking the reality of the present situation prabhu.
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On December 27, 2018 @ 7:21 am
Very helpful! Thanks so much for this comment!
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On December 27, 2018 @ 7:18 am
Just now seeing all these comments. Nice reply , thank you
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On December 27, 2018 @ 7:15 am
Prabhu~ it is my humble opinion, after observing ISKCON since 1989 & being a full fledged Temple devotee from 1989-1993, that the leaders need to be MUCH LESS legalistic & narrow minded in their approach towards initiation. Recently I heard Srila Prabhupada say to a guest who questioned him, that all these disciples are becoming qualified to initiate others, not just the Swamis, but also the brahmacaris & householders. He had such compassion & broadmindedness! He was always saying that this movement is not a religious movement. He wanted it to simply be a dynamic preaching mission to help the human race become happy. So in cases where someone truly desires initiation & doesn’t trust anyone fully except Prabhupada, what could be the harm in a fixed up leader of any ashram doing a fire yajna for such a person ? So many became initiated in this way when Prabhupada was too busy to personally be present at all the initiations. And then in cases where a person DOES have a fondness & total trust in a particular devotee, that devotee can initiate, as long as they are in good standing. It seems to me there is room for both this “ritvik type” of initiation AND the more traditional approach, and all of it should be done based on love & trust, renouncing the system now that one MUST be initiated only by a select few who get voted in by a small group of leaders. (dear devotees~ remember that although the ritvik/representative approach may not be typical, Prabhupada did so many things that were atypical, due to his love for us) Lastly, I believe strongly that to keep the Movement unified, all new disciples should focus on Srila Prabhupada mainly; offering their food to HIM and celebrating HIS Vyasa Puja, to avoid splintering and weakness within ISKCON. All the while of course, showing great respect for the devotee who brought them to Srila Prabhupada through their fine example & the initiation ceremony. That should go without saying. I basically agree with your well thought out article prabhu, as I think your main point was to tell new devotees that it’s acceptable to not receive initiation for a long time while you seek a guru, since you have Srila Prabhupada’s personal presence, association & protection. But the danger is, that while they wait, life may throw them some curveballs, and they may then deviate in ways they would not have if they would’ve taken vows in front of the sacred fire. That is my story.
» Posted By Joan DeLisio On December 27, 2018 @ 7:06 am