Published on November 5th, 2000 | by
3Prabhupada Kirtan Melodies – The Formula for Success?
One interesting subject that has brought to my attention by a few devotees is the performance of kirtan. A few months back Brahmananda had visited us here and had mentioned how the kirtans were a lot different in the early days in the the sense that the melody was very simple.
Today devotees sing many varieites of melodies coming from various sources. There are two opinions on the matter both of which I can see as valid yet one opinion I now tend to lean more towards. On one hand “there are no hard and fast rules for chanting Hare Krishna”, and thus devotees are inclined towards the “variety is the mother of enjoyment” idea while introducing many varieties of melodies, some Bengali, some made up etc. On the other hand kirtan can be taken very scientifically with consideration of the appropriate ragas, etc. One major position on this side is assertion that it is best to focus exclusively on the melodies, mood and sound vibration given to us directly by our spiritual master Srila Prabhupada.
One devotee said to me that by devotees chanting the melodies of Srila Prabhupada the movement will greatly expand . I’m now feeling very inspired about this realization and am eager to acquire a complete set of all Srila Prabhupada’s kirtans so that I can study them and always hear them as we are now hearing always the bhajans. Another senior devotee was telling me that he was there with Srila Prabhupada along with some other devotees asking Srila Prabhupada, “Can we sing like this, can we sing like that ?” , and Srila Prabhupada responded “That’s nice but mostly stay with the melodies I have already given you.” This devotee took it that Srila Prabhupada being very merciful gave some leeway , however he was most pleased with devotees simply following what he had given.
Hare Krishna,
your servant Madhavananda das.
[In relation to recording the ‘Govindam’ album in London with George Harrison, 1970] “Regarding the presentation of “Govindam” as well as other mantras, the vibration is always pure. I will give the theme and if the sound is Westernized that does not matter. But another point is that this specific sound of Kirtana as I sing is also another introduction of art that can be intermingled with Western art and such a combination will certainly be appreciated. But so far I know that the Kirtana tune is a specific representation of the Gaudiya Vaisnavas and this tune is appreciated all over India as unique. They say that the Kirtana tune is the specific gift of Bengal, and that is a fact. So why not utilize this tune in the Western countries under the able guidance of such expert musician as George?”
Comment by Madhudvisa dasa
Personally I like the tunes given by Srila Prabhupada as they are very easy to chant and the general public can very easily join in. Too much changing of the tune or complicated tunes makes it difficult for the public to catch-up the tune, so if they can’t work out the tune how can they join in? And we want them to join in the chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra and also remember the tune as well. So if we want them to remember the mantra it is better to stick to a standard tune.
But there are many “standard” ISKCON tunes that have been sung by the devotees for a very long time which are very nice. Srila Prabhupada may never have sung them, but they have become “standard” also. These tunes were sung on many of the Kirtanas in Prabhupada’s presence and those Kirtan’s were very potent and it was those Kirtana’s that caused the Hare Krishna movement to spread all over the world.
As far as I know there has never been a Kirtana party that strictly stuck to chanting only the tunes Srila Prabhupada gave us, yet still the Hare Krishna movement spread all over the world under Prabhupada’s direction. Therefore as far as I can see the cause of the spread of the Hare Krishna movement is not the tune of the Kirtana, but rather the purity of the chanters, and the very fact that they are actually out on the street and chanting Hare Krishna daily!!
It is very nice to theorize about this and that, but the real thing is we have to be out on the streets chanting Hare Krishna and distributing Srila Prabhupada’s books on a daily basis. If we actually do this sincerely that will cause the Krishna consciousness movement to spread all over the world. That is the formula Prabhupada gave us and that is also proven to work. Prabhupada never forced the devotees to only chant the tunes he chanted so how can you do that? If IRM are going out and chanting in New York 4 times a week why not join with them and increase the Kirtana’s? Locanananda Prabhu is a very expert Kirtan leader from Prabhupada’s days and I am sure his tunes are very bona fied, standard and approved by Srila Prabhupada.
As for a “complete set of Prabhupada kirtanas” as far as I know we have it already in the “Prabhupada MP3 Archive.” There are a few more recorded kirtanas in the “Unedited Bhajans” [a 30+ set of tapes] and there are also some nice Prabhupada kirtanas on the Videos. I don’t think there are any more recorded Prabhupada kirtanas.
Prabhupada did not lead very many kirtanas except in the early days and as far as I know most of those were not recorded. Prabhupada had his disciples lead most of the kirtanas and it was those kirtanas and street chanting parties that spread the Hare Krishna chanting all over the world. So it was actually the kirtanas of Prabhupada’s disciples [inspired by Prabhupada of course] that spread the Hare Krishna movement all over the world, not Prabhupada’s personal kirtanas.
In conclusion personally I find Prabhupada’s tunes to be super-excellent and when I chant I like to chant Prabhupada’s tunes and the devotees like it and the general public can very easily join in also. So I think that is the best thing. When we lead kirtana we can chant Prabhupada’s tunes and the idea will catch on.
But the main thing is to be pure and actually go out on to the streets on a daily basis and chant Hare Krishna and distribute Srila Prabhupada’s books. This is the formula for success, not the kirtana melodies.
Unless the chanters are following the four regulative principles [no illicit sex, no meat eating, no gambling and no intoxication] and chanting at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra daily there will not be so much potency in the kirtana. It depends on the purity of the chanters. There are so many sahijya kirtan parties in India with chanters adicted to all sorts of sinful activities. But they have very little effect. So that is the real difference in the kirtanas in Prabhupada’s time and now. In Prabhupada’s time most of the chanters were very seriously following the regulative principles, reading Prabhupada’s books, and chanting at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra daily. Now many “devotees” are not doing these things… That is the difference.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Your servant
Madhudvisa dasa
When Rupanuga prabhu was our GBC in eastern Canada in 1976, he made a copy of unedited Prabhupada kirtans from 26 2nd avenue that went to the B Archives
We made a copy on cassette butthey all deteriorated. Ive been begging Ekanatha prabhu for years of these copies but it seems he is too swamped by other seva to release these or send me a copy
They were sometimes a tampura that was out of tune, loud booming mrdanga, clashing kartalas, but still very ecstatic to hear and I have never heard them since. I think there is still more unlreleased kirtan material to be heard, but I dont want to bug Ekantha prabhu anymore as he probably needs more help. I was helping him with transcribing lectures for a while and there are still 200 more to be done !
Hare Krishna Gaura Prabhu
Everything is available on our new:
Prabhupada Kirtans and Bhajans — The Complete Colletion
Available at:
http://krishnastore.com/prabhupada-kirtans-and-bhajans-the-complete-colletion-h-krishna-1463.html
This is a truly wonderful collection and everything you remember is there in better quality than you have ever heard it before.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Your servant
Madhudvisa dasa
very beautiful