Why Even Visit the ISKCON Temples? [Letter to Gauridas Pandit]
As Mahatma Vidura finally realized that it was useless to stay in a vicious assembly among his Kuru kinsmen, so sincere devotees should realize that ISKCON is no longer fit for sadhu-sanga. Srila Prabhupada preferred to stay in the homes of karmis rather than to stay with or even visit his so-called godbrothers in Bombay and Calcutta.
Dear Gauridas Pandit Prabhu,
Please accept my obiesances. Jai Srila Prabhupada!
I can imagine how upsetting it was for you to be driven away from what is supposed to be Srila Prabhupada’s temple. Unfortunately many, many devotees have been driven away in similar or even much more violent confrontations.
Badri is a fool. He says you have caused much pain in the movement, and he wants to drive you away, although he supports fallen rascals just because they are GBCs, although they may be child molesters, thieves, or cow torturers. And what is your fault? That you are always telling them to follow Prabhupada’s order and initiate only on his behalf as ritviks.
The whole gbc has been thoroughly poisoned by this idea that Prabhupada is dead and can no longer initiate or be the ultimate authority in iskcon. The gbc’s deliberate plan all along has been to remove or kill Srila Prabhupada. Because they are unable to jusitfy their philosophical position, they can only try their best to drive out those who want to remain loyal to honesty, truth and Srila Prabhupada.
As Mahatma Vidura finally realized that it was useless to stay in a vicious assembly among his Kuru kinsmen, so sincere devotees should realize that iskcon is no longer fit for sadhu-sanga.
Srila Prabhupada preferred to stay in the homes of karmis rather than to stay with or even visit his so-called godbrothers in Bombay and Calcutta. Yet as soon as Srila Prabhupada leaves, the gbc immediately consults these psuedo-sadhus, against all of Srila Prabhuapda’s warnings and thus they created a fiasco of ongoing spiritual disaster, which ruins thousands of devotees’ chances to go with Prabhupada gauranteed back Home back to Godhead. In frustration over politics and spiritual poverty, befooled iskcon devotees finally turn to sahajiya gurus and their cults outside iskcon and become even more lost and confused.
This worst tragedy in history may soon manifest externally as World War , in such a way that the whole world can fully taste the bitter fruits of Vaisnava aparadha.
As Kapindra Swami often says, we have to break our attachment to these people and their counterfeit temples and sanga.
They only want to use Srila Prabhupada’s name and fame and opulence for their own sense gratification.
As Srila Bhaktisiddhanta noted, such brahmins are willing to use the Shalagram Shila as a stone for breaking nuts. So it’s not surprising they want to break our heads to preserve their sinful lifestyles of easy living at others’ expense.
For me it is painful just hearing the names of these usurpers and poisoners. They are systematically poisoning the creepers of devotion planted and nourished by Srila Prabhupada with his long, painstaking effort of pure devotion. They are certainly the disciples of Kali Yuga that Srila Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta talked about. They are among the most dangerous and disgusting people on the planet. Why should we go there and see their faces and be polluted just by the sight of them?
Hope you are otherwise blissfull and well in Srila Prabhupada smarana.
your servant,
Narasimha das
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With all due respect it seems, sadly, that ISKCON died with Prabhupada.
So what is a someone new to Krishna conscioussness to do?
How can one make spiritual advancement without a bona-fide guru?
Hare Krishna Steven
ISKCON died when they claimed that Srila Prabhupada died. That is the problem with ISKCON, they think that Prabhupada is dead, so they are, as you correctly state, dead. ISKCON is useless. Disconnected from Srila Prabhupada, disconnected from the disciplic succession, disconnected from Krishna. It is like a fan but you have disconnected it from the power supply. It may spin around a few more times, but it is dead, it is not connected to the power. ISKCON is like that. Disconnected.
But Prabhupada did not die. He is living in sound, he is living in his transcendental books. You read them, take advantage of Srila Prabhupada’s personal association in this way, and you will know that Prabhupada is not dead, you will have a bona fide spiritual master and you will make rapid advancement in Krishna consciousness.
It is not possible to make spiritual advancement without a bona fide guru.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
I was initiated by His Grace Srila Prabhupada 1973 Detroit ISKCON. 1972-1979 I do not live or visit temples but I follow the 4 regs and chant daily and visit many devotee websites I miss the temple life but feel I can not go back,, your unworthy servant
Hare Krishna Prabhu
Very nice to hear from you. Yes. I understand exactly how you feel. If you would go back to the ISKCON temples now you would find something completely foreign, something completely different from the ISKCON Srila Prabhupada created. There is no temple life any more in ISKCON. In most temples there are practically no devotees living there and they just put on a show on Sundays for the Hindus.
So when we, who are used to Prabhupada’s temples, go to today’s ISKCON temples, it is very, very disappointing indeed.
So at some point we have to reestablish Prabhupada’s temples. In the meantime we can read Prabhupada’s books and as you do chant 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra and follow the four regulative principles and engage in serving Srila Prabhupada. We do not have to be in ISKCON to serve Srila Prabhupada. Somehow I manage to keep very busy in Krishna consciousness without having anything at all to do with today’s bogus ISKCON..
So we have to remain surrendered servants of Srila Prabhupada and we can do that anywhere. We do not have to be in and ISKCON temple to serve Srila Prabhupada!
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
So is that following among the sinners on the strenght of the holy name. going to elevate me? or will it infect me with the exploitive mentality and then when some test by Maya comes i will do worse then without such following? or in other words. Is it not going to make me chant offensively even i will have the standard number of rounds? When i left “ISKCON” i fell down, worse then before, so it seems to me like the endeavor was useless.
Yes. ISKCON teaches innocent people to become offensive to devotees who are actually following Srila Prabhupada’s instructions and puts forward as examples of great devotees people who are not following the regulative principles, not chanting 16 rounds, etc, etc.
So ISKCON is poisonous and that is why I suggest everyone avoid ISKCON completely. They can not help you become Krishna conscious but they can certainly destroy any little creeper of bhakti you may have sprouting in your heart…