Religion

Published on February 13th, 2023 | by HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

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Lord Jesus Christ and Buddha are incarnations of Krishna (MP3 Audio)

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In the list of incarnations you’ll find Lord Krishna’s name also, Lord Rama’s name also, Lord Buddha’s name also. Lord Buddha is mentioned. Do not think that the Hindus have disregard for Lord Buddha or for Lord Jesus Christ. No. They have all regard.

isvarah paramah krsnahsac-cid-ananda-vigrahah
anadir adir govindah
sarva-karana-karanam

So Lord Caitanya has explained the particular features of Krishna, and He’s giving evidence from Brahma-samhita and other authentic Vedic literatures. So we have concluded that Krsna is the origin. Origin. There are many demigods, gods, and living entities, energies, millions and millions. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate. There is no estimate. But He is the origin of all. Just like in your New York City there are so many manifestation of electricity, but the origin is the powerhouse, similarly, He is the origin, powerhouse. Sarvadi, sarvamsi. He is the whole, and everything is part. And He is always just like a young boy of sixteen years old. And His body is transcendental, spiritual, full of bliss, eternity, and He is the shelter of everything. On Him everything is resting, and sarvesvara, He is the Supreme Lord.

svayam bhagavan krsna, ‘govinda’ para nama sarvaisvarya-purna yanra goloka–nitya-dhama

Now, that Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna… Krsna is the original name of God, and Govinda is the qualitative name, transcendental qualitative. This Govinda, we have explained. Go means land, go means senses, and go means… Land, senses…

Devotee: Cow.

Prabhupada: Cow. Yes. This we have explained. And because He gives pleasure to all these things especially, cows and land and the senses, He is known as Govinda. Sarvaisvarya-purna. He is full of all opulences. There is definition of God in the Parasara-sutra. Parasara Muni, the father of Vyasadeva, he was a great sage. So he has given the definition of God. After consulting all Vedic literatures, he has given his, delivered the definition of God. What is that? Sad-aisvarya-purna: full of six opulences. And what are those six opulences? Aisvaryasya samagrasya: “He is the proprietor of all wealth, everything.” So aisvaryasya samagrasya viryasya: “He is the reservoir of all strength.” Viryasya yasasah sriyah: “And He is the supreme famous.” Nobody can be more famous than Krsna. Aisvaryasya samagrasya viryasya yasasah sriyah. Sriyah means beauty. Nobody can be more beautiful than Krsna. And jnana, knowledge. Nobody can be more knower and full of knowledge than Krsna. And renunciation. And He is also, at the…, having so many opulences. He is renouncer of… He has nothing to do with all these things. He does not depend for His Godheadship on these qualifications. He is renouncer at the same time. So here also Lord Caitanya substantiates that sad-aisvarya-purna: “He’s full of six opulences.” Sad-aisvarya-purna yanra goloka–nitya-dhama. Nitya-dhama means He’s homely. Homely. He’s the proprietor of all land, but just like a king. A king is the proprietor of the whole state; still, he has got his personal residence, which is called palace, royal palace. So similarly, although Lord is the proprietor of everything, every land, every space, every, any, anywhere… This is the proprietorship of Lord, of God’s.

So we are seeking after peace, but we do not know that where we are living. We are claiming proprietorship for the time being. We come here under different shapes, in different body, and claim proprietorship for the land where we are born. But we do not know by freaks of nature, any second, we can be driven away from this land and put another land. So where is my proprietorship? If I am staying for some time here, some time there… Bhojanam yatra yatra sayanam hatta-mandire: “I eat wherever eatables are available, and I sleep on the marketplace.” Then where is my home? Where is my home? So this is our position. We are circumambulating under, in the cycle of birth and death. Sometimes I am claiming, “America is my land,” sometimes claiming, “India is my land,” sometimes claiming, “China is my land,” sometimes claiming, “Moon planet is my land.” No land belongs to you. Everything belongs to God. Isavasyam idam sarvam. He is the proprietor. Bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram. That misunderstanding… We are falsely encroaching upon and falsely claiming proprietorship. Therefore there is no peace. You are searching after peace. How can there be peace? You are falsely claiming something which does not belong to you. So here it is said, sarvaisvarya-purna.

So every place belongs to God, but that Goloka Vrndavana, that place is particularly His abode. You have seen the picture. It is lotuslike. All planets are round, but that supreme planet is lotuslike. So that is in the spiritual sky, Goloka Vrndavana. And from that spiritual planet… Just like the, from the sun planet, the sunshine is emanating profusely. Just like this sun is, is compared with the eye, eyes of the Lord. Not… One eye. Another eye, the moon. It is figuratively stated. Yac-caksur esa savita sakala-grahanam raja samasta-sura-murtir asesa-tejah. Asesa-tejah, unlimited potency, sunlight, is coming from the sun. This material world, we can practically experience. But the sunlight is also emanating from that light which is emanating from that Goloka Vrndavana. That is the real light, which is called brahmajyoti. So in that brahmajyoti there are innumerable spiritual planets also. So in the spiritual sky, in that spiritual light, in that spiritual planets, there are innumerable liberated living entities, and each, each and every planet, there is expansion of Lord Krsna. They are named by different names. (break) Sad-aisvarya-purna yanra goloka–nitya-dhama. So origin. He is the origin. His planet, Goloka Vrndavana, is the original planet, and from that planet, that brahmajyoti, light, is coming. And in that light, everything is resting. And in an insignificant portion of that light, this material world is situated. In that place there are innumerable universes as we are seeing one. And one of these universes, there are millions and billions of planets, of which this earth is only a insignificant fragment. And in that earth, the land of America, United States, is still insignificant. And in that state, New York is still insignificant. And in that New York City, this 26 Second Avenue insignificant. And we are sitting here. So just see how much insignificant we are. And we are claiming “God.” Do not know… Sad-aisvarya-purna. This is called ignorance. We do not know how much insignificant we are in the creation of God, and we are claiming, “God.” This is called poor fund of knowledge, poor fund of knowledge.

Now Lord Caitanya says that… He’s giving evidence from Srimad-Bhagavatam. In Srimad-Bhagavatam it is stated,

ete camsa-kalah pumsah krsnas tu bhagavan svayam
indrari-vyakulam lokam
mrdayanti yuge yuge

Now, in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, perhaps in the Third Chapter in the First Canto, you’ll find there is description of different incarnations, principal incarnations–not all the incarnations, principal, in different yugas. So in that list of incarnations you’ll find Lord Krsna’s name also, Lord Rama’s name also, Lord Buddha’s name also. Lord Buddha is mentioned in that list. So we, Vaisnavite, we respect Lord Buddha as incarnation, incarnation. So do not think that the Hindus, they have got disregard for Lord Buddha or for Lord Jesus Christ. No. They have all regard. Anyone who comes as representative of God, or as God, as powerful incarnation, they are all welcome. According to time, according to place, according to the audience, they may speak, speak something which is, which may be different from the Vedic conclusion, but they are accepted as powerful incarnations. So in that list of incarnations, Krsna’s name is also there. But just to particularize Krsna from all others, this verse is mentioned there. What is that? Ete. Ete means “All this list of incarnations that we have seen or we are reading in the Srimad-Bhagavatam…” Ete ca amsa-kalah pumsah. Pumsah means the Supreme Lord. “The Supreme Lord’s plenary portion or portion of the plenary portion…” Just like the… I have several times mentioned in this room, that the original lamp… This is original lamp. And you kindle another candle, from that, another, from that, another, from… In that… Thousands and millions of candles, you can light up, but the original is called the original. Similarly, the original God is Krsna. From Him, Baladeva, and from Him, Sankarsana, and from Sankarsana, then Narayana, and Narayana, then second Sankarsana, the second Sankarsana, purusa avatara, then purusa avatara, Maha-Visnu… You have seen the picture in the, what is called, title page of the Srimad-Bhagavatam. The Maha-Visnu is lying in the, lying in the Causal Ocean, and in that Causal Ocean, from Maha-Visnu, from His breathing, millions and millions universes are coming out. And when He, when He breathes externally, the universes come out, and when He inhales, all the universes go into Him. You see? That Maha-Visnu.

yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja-jagad-anda-nathah
visnur mahan sa iha yasya kala-viseso
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami

That Visnu, Maha-Visnu, is the part, part, part, part, part, part of the part of the part of Krsna, that Maha-Visnu. So they are called kala.

So all these list… Bhagavata is specifying about Krsna. All this full list of God’s incarnation… Either they are part, plenary part, or parts of the parts of the parts of the Supreme, but here, the name Krsna, He’s the original God. Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam: “The Supreme Personality of Godhead is Krsna.” That has been particularly pointed out in Srimad-Bhagavatam, although there are list of many. So that, that Krsna, although He is original, still, indrari-vyakulam lokam mrdayanti yuge yuge. Indrari. Indra. Indra is the king of heaven. And ari, ari means enemy. Just like the heavenly king and the Satan, conception of Satan. So when there is satanic influence over the kingdom of God, or the devotees, or the appointed demigods, they are disturbed by satanic influence, then Krsna comes. Yada yada hi… That is stated, confirmed, in Bhagavad-gita.

yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata
abhyutthanam adharmasya
tadatmanam srjamy aham

Whenever there is discrepancies in the discharge of natural laws of God, then God incarnates. Either He incarnates Himself, or He sends His bona fide representative, or He sends His powerful representative, like that. So whenever there is incarnation of God, it is to be understood that there is discrepancies in the matter of discharging the laws made by God. And the laws made by God is called dharma, dharma, or religion.

So religion, you cannot manufacture; I cannot manufacture. Just like there are so many religions now, manufactured by laymen. Oh, they are not religion. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam: “Dharma means, religion means, which is made by God.” Or His representative. Not by anyone. Not that you make a club or association, you manufacture some idea and it becomes religion. No. Dharmam tu saksad bha… Therefore God incarnates. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati. Glanir means when there is discrepancies. In that law, which is given by God, when there is discrepancies and people are disturbed, especially the devotees are disturbed, when there is satanic influence, there is, devotees are very much disturbed. So paritranaya sadhunam. When incarnation comes, now, paritranaya sadhunam, the first business is to give protection to the devotees. There is no necessity of God’s coming here to settle up things. There is no necessity. He has got omnipotential power. He can do without His presence. But when His devotees become very much disturbed, He comes personally. He comes personally, sends His representative. Paritranaya sadhunam. Sadhunam means devotees. Paritranaya and vinasaya ca duskrtam. And, simultaneously, when He comes, all these miscreants, they are killed. They are annihilated. Vinasaya ca duskrtam. Dharma-samsthapanarthaya, and reestablishing the principle of religion. Yuge yuge sambhavami. The Lord says, “I come in different millenniums.”

So that is going on. There are innumerable universes, which you cannot estimate, and each of the universes, the Lord is incarnating Himself by one of His plenary portions. Krsna is present in some of the universes even now. We do not know where is that universe because we cannot see. What is information we have got? We do not know anything about this universe. We see so many stars in the night, so many sun, moon, but what do we know about them? Still, we are claiming that “We are very powerful. We are very advanced in knowledge.” This is our poor fund of knowledge. Anyone who is claiming that “I am God” or “I am everything,” he is a fool number one. Take it for… Immediately take as fool. What does he know? So indrari-vyakulam lokam. There are many universes and many planets. So in either of them or each of them, some sort of incarnation is present there. Just like in government, in every department, there is a government representative. Just like in your city, your mayor, mayor is there. Or any responsible post, there is some director, there is… Similarly, indrari-vyakulam mrdayanti yuge yuge. Yuge yuge means different yugas. The same example. Just like the sun. The sun is present everywhere. Just at this moment it is now eight, eight o’clock in New York. In India it is night. There is no sun. But here it is, sun present. Similarly, in your country also, if you go more farther eastern, western side, somewhere the sun is already there somewhere, somewhere the sun is not there. So similarly, the sun is there, but it is the particular time and place where people can see and cannot see. So Krsna is there always, everywhere, but it is the power of seeing where Krsna is or Krsna is not.

So indrari-vyakulam… He is, by His one plenary portion, He is in either of the all universes. So in this universe, when He comes… Just like when sun appears in your country it takes round of twenty-four hours, similarly, when Krsna comes on this universe, it is only in one day of Brahma, that is, some millions and millions of years after, He comes. He has got a scheduled time also, to appear in this universe. We get information from authentic scripture. Indrari-vyakulam lokam mrdayanti yuge yuge. So He is… Just like sun is rotating, or we are rotating, similarly, Krsna is there. At a certain interval of time we see Him in this universe. He is present always, but at a certain interval… Just like the motorcar passes… It is going on. But when it is in front of my storefront, I can see. That’s all. Not that because the motorcar has passed away, out of my sight, there is no motorcar. No. It has passed away from your sight. That’s all. It is going on. It is going on. Similarly, incarnation, representation of Krsna, is always going on. When we can see, then it is… Krsna we can see. That is His omnipotency.

Now to understand that Krsna… Already said that bhakti, only devotional service, can help you in understanding that Supreme Krsna.

jnana, yoga, bhakti,–tina sadhanera vase brahma, atma, bhagavan–trividha prakase

That same Krsna, He manifests Himself before you in three different features. What is that? Param brahma. Brahman, impersonal Brahman; impersonal atma, Supersoul; and Bhagavan, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The same Krsna. Actually Krsna is everything. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Godhead, and He is Atma. He is situated as Paramatma, the Supersoul, in everyone’s heart. And He is Brahman. He is impersonal brahmajyoti spreading everywhere. So how the same thing is understood in different features? That is said, jnana, yoga and bhakti. Those who are trying to understand the Supreme Absolute Truth through knowledge, they can go up to that impersonal Brahman. Those who are searching after the Supreme Absolute Truth through meditation, yoga, they can approach Krsna up to His plenary portion, Paramatma, or the Supersoul. And those who are pursuing the principles of devotional service, they can directly approach the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna. So Krsna is everything. He is impersonal Brahman, He is localized Paramatma, and He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead at the same time, but due to our different processes, different process of approach, somebody is realizing Him as the impersonal Brahman, somebody is realizing Him as the localized Paramatma, Supersoul, and somebody is realizing Him, isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah, the most, supermost reservoir of all pleasure, Personality of Godhead, and associates with Him in different relationship and enjoys life, eternal life, blissful life and knowledge of full…

Thank you very much. (end)

[661207CC.NY] Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 20.154-157 New York, December 7, 1966

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

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HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Founded the Hare Krishna Movement in 1966 in New York. In only 11 years he spread the movement all over the world. He wrote more than 80 books including Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Sri Isopanisad. Prabhupada's books constitute a complete library of Vedic philosophy, religion, literature and culture.

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