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Are the Hare Krishnas a Cult?

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The answer to this is no, and why do I say no? Well…..It is simple, If a person Chants the Maha Moantra of– Hri Krishna Hari Hrishna Krishna Krishna Hari Hari Hari Rama Hari Rama rama Rama Hari Hari then sion any person who takes up this Blissful meathode of God realization- will actually start to feel the mellow bliss within their own hearts.

Generally a cult is a group of people who do things in society that go against the normal process of living among other human beings, This Hari krishna movement is a spiritual process that dates back well over several millions of years. In fact, even today there are tens of millions of people all over this world who follow this way of loving
God,.Krishna)
The name Krishna translate to “He who is the topmost resevoir of Pleasure.”
You and I and all humans on this planet are alway seeking out after a way of having pleasure, and if we do not feel the real love of God within our hearts, then we all will seek out Love or “Pleasure” through the temporary means of lust, power, and false ego.
A cult would better be though of as a group of people who think it is ok to commit suicide, just as they have done so in gianna Africa many years ago. That was a very crazy, and sad thing to do. People who allow themselves to be brainwasked into thinking that a Human person Like rev Jones is the final word on God and salvation,and that Killing oneself, is the thing to do, then those people who choose to follow a so called leader like I have just discribed above, then those poor human beings could defintatlly be called a cult. this word (cult) in WEbster’s dictionary means-that which is practised in a manner that goes against the normal means that is know by society at large.
And so, even we can see within the Christian faith, and the Muslins there are some strange cult practices that seem to go agained the norm of things.

Thaat is why some people even might mistakingly think that this Hari krishna momement is some kind of a cult. Well……..This is very far from the Truth my friends. In fact this chanting of the Hari Krishna Mantra is an eternal spiritual purifying process where by a person can once again become aware of God’s love within our hearts.
This Hari Krishna Process of Yoja or “connecting woth the supream Personality of “Godhead”, is an eternal process that has been available to us human souls for many milllions of years, and most recently this eternal process of Bhakti Yoga has been reinstated again only a little over 500 years ago by this blissful incarnation of “Lord Sri Chaiytania Maha Prabhu”. Krishna always will reapeare on this material earth whenever there is a decline in spiritual practises.. There is an amazing book that anyone wants real mercy- may read, and it is called the “Bhagvad Gita As it is” by A.C Bhakti Vedanta Swami Prabhupada.
Please go to the Website called krishna .org. This Gita Book Means (The Song of God) this version of the Gita has not been changed in any way by lesser persons..
This is the original version that has been translated from the original text of of the original Vedas, The knowlege of This Very Amazing Spiritual Book will make everything very clear whomever takes up the challenge to read the spiritual nector within this book of great teachings coming directly from God, and it is actually written by God himself- “Krishna”…

Furthermore, I must warn y0u my frieds,” Whomever starts to read this Bagavad Gita As it is” will gradually star to loose the ability and the desire to enjoy this temporay and hellish material world. I say this fact only because it is a true statement. My name is Bhaskara and I just happen to be a spiritual soul who has been following this Science of God realization for the past forty years, and I have made a lot a Amazing progress along this Spiritual path. I cannot really enjoy this material sence enjoyment in this temporay body any longer., This Wonderful book ” Bhagavad Gita” has distroyed my material desires, I now can only Love Krishna within my heart. However, Oh…. How Sweet Krishbna Is……If we really want to be free from the cyle of birth and death, and if we really want to be free from all anxieties, and if we really want to feel bliss and extacy within our oun hearts…… and if you really want to feel real pleasure… Then…….go ahead….. Read this “Bhagavd Gita As it is” then very soon…… you will know and feel the wonderful things that I enjoy at every moment in my life.

Yours., In Love and Light Bhaskara Prabhu

» Posted By Bhaskara On March 9, 2009 @ 1:28 am

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Hari Krishna,
Bhaskara here. I just wanted to say I,am sorry for some of my poor spelling in my last letter, just befor this letter.
I will try to spell better in future letters, Thank you and Hari Bol All Glories to Srila Prabhupada… Hey ! want to be a very happy soul ? then…….Chant Hari Krishna………………

» Posted By Bhaskara On March 7, 2009 @ 3:07 am

Hari krishna Everyone.
please accept my humble obieseices.
All golies to Srila Prabhupada.

I would like to take this oportunity to comment avout this online foram of Krishna .org. Well……. I think it is simple wonderful !!!

It is just like the sweet tasty sweet milk balls that Srila Probhupada calles Simple Wonderful.

I think it is very important for all of us spirit souls to speak out about things of the spiritual nature.

All things goof will come about in our lives if we all simple ejoy the sweet mood of Srila prabhupada’s trancendental instructions on how we all can become free from the hellish stronghold of this material energy.
We all have unfortunately been in this conditioned way of living for millions of births and deaths. As Prabhupada has sstated many times, the only rrelief from this present intanglement is to Chant the Hare krishna Mantra, of Hari krishna Hari Krishna krishna krishna Hari
Hari Rama Hari Rama Rama Rama Hari Hari, This great sound vibration is Krishna Himself, it is also a wonderfull language that will indeed connect you an I directly with Krishna.

Yes, the many crazy and selfish things that have taken place within ISKCON since Prabhupada’s physical departure in 1977 have not been easy on all of us devotees.
I have not been the most steady decipal of Srila Prabhupada in the last several years,. However, I know know that in a way srila Prabhupada has been always protecting me from people who have not continued to follow Probhupada’s original instructions on how His ISKCON should have been run once He has left His body..

You see, I know the real truth about many things that might be a mistory to others. I was there in the early days with my Guru, Srila prabhupada. I witnessed a pure soul, who waws always in transendence woth Krishna. I have not seen many other of my God brothers who might be pure enough in thier hearts to have been able to really say that they are lovers of Krishna. I know that to call oneself a Guru or a teacher of others, that a person must first of all be qualified to lead others back to the spiritual realm.
If a person is not living in a gracful state of bliss and love within the heart, then that person should not try to be a guru.

I remember, when even in my early days as a new bakta when My name was Bhata sunny, that Prabhupada had spoken to some of us about naming a guru in His place after He departed to His Original eternal abode With krishna, and He told us that a person will appear in future. Probhupada knew that it would be awhilw before any of us would be pure enough in spiritual love Krishna to be qulified to be a guru.

I have always known that it is not a good thing when a devotee has a desire to be a guru, A person should only become a spiritual Master only wnen other people start to notice trancendental qualities in that particular elevated soul.

A devotee who is in a loving ralation with Krishna, and who in His or Her heart knows the real trancendental mellows of Spiritual love, and who is always experiencing an overwhelming reciprecation of Love exstacy with God, Then That person will naturally be aproched by other devotees who have become aware of the shinning and loving qualities of that pure giva.
In other words, It will be all under the Supream contral of krishna..

We will start to see many of the older devotees, who have been chanting for some time, who will by Srila prabhupada’s mercy, will sometimes suddenly become very, very aware of thier relationship with the Lord of the heart.
You and I and all of us Spirit souls will become pure lovers of krishna only if that is the topmost desire in our hearts.

If we all really want to have the overwelming loving and continuing estactic embrace of the Supream Personality of God, Then we can have exactly what we are really thirty for,. but we can only reach this level of Spiritual pleasure only if we really want it. Krishna will allow you and Me this blissful union with Him, and the good news is that it is not a very difficult thing to achive, all it really takes is for us all to simple follow the teachings of our true spiritual leader or master, namely Srila Prabhupada.

As I have said in my last letter to this foram, I have known srila Prabhupada’s mercy over the last forty years of my Spiritual life. I believe that the Ritvik meothod of taking initiation into the realm of Bhati Yoga is and will be always valid, now and into the far, far future.

Please rememger one important thing here, and that is the fact that we all are living in a most difficult age, called kali Yuga, . These are times of great ingnorance and times of mistrust, hate and fighting each other,so on and so forth. So there will always be puffed up devotees who do not yet get the true message of love.
In fact, there are many of us souls who have not really had any real experience with the energy that is calles Spiritual love.

I think it is very wise to simple follow great souls who have deminstrated there love and devotion to Krishna. I have met a person just as I have discribed, and His name so happens to be Srila Prabhupada, and His is even now able to take all of us back with Him to the spiritual World, where there is no more changing of bodies for us,. In the spiritual shy there is no more problems for the givas. that means you and me..
Another thing that is important is that yes, there is and will be some qualified gurus among us right now. You will have to simple look within and pray to the Lord of the heart to direct us to do the right thing as in regards to how we shall make spiritual progress along the narrow path of learning how to really experience the most wonderful and most pleasurablle mellows of that LOVE relationship with Krishna.
I can only say, that srila Prabhupada is right now the most qualified spiritual master of this age..

Prabhupada has given me his devine mercy and He is continuing to grant me spiritual mercy.. So… Just read Srila prabhupada’s books, espeacially the Bhagavat Gita, This is the song of God, and the spiritual message is eternal.
It is only proper and correct to have an initiation into the Bhakti Yoga clan by having a spiritually advanced person offer you initiation on Probhupada’s behalf. Srila Prabhupada will then be your eternal spiritual Master, and Prabhupada will indeed visit with you within your heart.. Furthermore, the spiritual master who has offered you your initiation will forevermore also be like a guru to you, You will always be very greatfull to that Ritvik medium of mercy.
The main pont is that we small giva souls must start on the trancindental path as soon as possible because there is but only a short time within this temporary material body, whereby we have a chance for perfection of our conciousness..

Prabhus, please believe me when I tell you that this spiritual love is absolutly amazing in its overwhelming plaeasurable power and bliss, it is so wonderful that there is nothing in this crazy material world that can ever be compared to it. That is because it is all Krishna. and so, once a person begins on the true spiritual path of trancendental love of God, then many things will be revieled you you. Just as things are being shown to me within my heart.
The Blissful Spiritual world is very real and it is also within our means to oftaimnthis simple wonderfull bliss and all the amazing activities we will have in the conciouse within our hearts.
I can only tell any of you readers out there that I do indeed have some knowlege of these things of the heart. I have known about the powerful energy of love within my heart, I have had many outer body experiences about two years befor I became a devotee.
Now,by srila Prabhupada’s causeless mercy, I now know how to direct the Love energy of my heart towards the lotus feet of Krishna. I know I,am still a very fallon soul, but by God, I,am on my way to the reality of spiritual love.. and alway please rememger that just as the famouse Beatles have said in thier songs… Love is all there is..
So save yourselves and….
Please chantthe Hari krishna Maha Mantra….
Your servant in Love and Light Bhaskara…

» Posted By Bhaskara On March 7, 2009 @ 3:02 am

Hari Krishna Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obiesiences.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

This letter to to comment about krishna .org.

My thoughts about this online foram are simple WONDERFUL !
This foram is just like the sweet balls that Prabhupada called Simple Wonderful.
I know that there many deciples of srila Prabhupada out there who have fallon away or have given up on thier spiritual life. I have at times

» Posted By Bhaskara On March 7, 2009 @ 1:13 am

Hari krihna Prabhus, all glories to Srila prabhupada.
I just sent you a long letter about some of my thoughts. but i did not chek all of the spelling, so would you kindly correct the spelling for me,
Thank you, Your servant Bhaskara

» Posted By Bhaskara On March 7, 2009 @ 12:46 am

Hari krishna Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeseinces, All Glories to our eternal Guru, Srila Prabhupada.

My name is Bhaskara, some of you devotees out there may already know me.from my early times in the New Dwarka Temple of L.A.

I took initiation from Srila Prabhupada in L.A. temple in 1970, and I joined the devotees in 1969 in Laguna Beach,CA.
My Bhakta leader was the blissful Saint that Prabupada named Visnujanan Swami.

So, yes, I was a very fortunate soul to have come into contact with Srila Prabhupada and all the other saintly persons in those early and most very blissful days of devotion to Prabhupada and Radha, Krishna. I would surely give a kidney to see those blissful days return to the former glory that only Srila Prabupada as the father of the Hari krishna movement could instill in our hearts. But it is very possible for all of us to become very pure souls, just as Srila Prabhupada is still teaching us from His books and taps,etc…Purity is the only thing that will help with any of our problems in this age of Kali yuga.

I,am a devotee who is searching for a Temple to live in again and to help devotees with my loving heart towards all, and to also offer my humble servises as a builder and a building repair person. I learned most of the building trades since age 13 onwards.
Now I,am at the ripe old age of 59 and my body has some problems but I can still work almost as hard as I once did in times past,, when in 1969 I was asked to help remodel the L. A. Temple. I was only one of a few devotees who worked day and night to get the L.A. Chruch building to look like a spiritual Temple for the most blissful visit of Srila Prabupada’s return from India..

I have done much service over the last 40 years in many temples and on many ISKCON farms. I,am known in Tucon Temple as a good worker and a nice person.
I remember once, many years ago when I wanted to serve and live in the atlanta Temple, I whent there with a humble attitude and had asked the Temple President if I could stay there and do repairs and maintenance in the Temple. and also I had lived there in the atlanta temple about five years ago, Well……sadly….. I was turned away because the young Temple President there, at the Atlanta Temple only wanted people who could collect laksmi.. I have never been very good at collecting.. I can however sell a few books at times. We all should keep in mind that all of the Temples that where established by Srila Prabhupada, are still Prabhupada’s places of worshipe, and that means that His mandirs do not belong to any single Temple prsident nor to any single individual.
anyway,I have discovered years ago that My main business in life,is fixing things and building things and I,am expert in all of the building trades.. So, I,am hoping that someone might have a place for me to serve in a temple that has the mood of ISKCON reform.. For you see, I also am not very happy with the way the so called GBC gurus are running things these days. Perhaps it seems to me that many of my God brothers had not understood Srila Prabhupada’s instructions in the early days when He was among us in His visual body.
Many people and devotees think that Prabhupada has gone somewhere, I can tell all of you who might be reading my thoughts, that srila prabhupada has not gone away from us. Prabhupada still talks to me in blissfull dreams I sometimes have.
I have seen to much of the opposit of a loving mood in many of my God Brothers over the last several years.. It has seemed to me that something has surely been lost in the hearts of many of my God brothers that have become so called Gurus and so on and so forth..

Yes, there has been many sad events that have taken place in many of the ISKCON Temples in the many years since probupada left this planet. Well anyway to many devotees it seemes as if He wnent somewhere, Yes Prabhupada is in the spiritual world in full enjoyment with Krishna, But srila prabhupada is also in the hearts of all of us.

I,am one small person who still has that blissful mood that I got from associating with Srila prabupada. My only business in this short life, now is to help others to see the amazing love that is within all of our hearts. I can not truly say that I,am fully purified soul, but by Srila Prabhupada’s mercy, I have been to the front steps on Vikuntha. I know what real spiritual love is.. I only wish to continue enjoying the blisful association of my Merciful Guru,”Srila Prabhupada who always shines within my heart.
In 1969 I was fortunate enoough to have had personal association with Prabhupada, and at that time, I have felt and seen the loving shinning efulgence of a pure lover of God.. srila prabhupada in just like Cintamani, the touchstone of Love, and just like a big worm fire, Srila prabhupada’s presents and His books can and will finally warm our hearts to the point where you and I will at long last, finally know real spiritual love of God… Krishna is within………… We only need to turn towards Him and give Him our loving hearts.. Prabhupada has done this thing of surrender to krishna, and so Srila Prabhupada is simple instructing all of us that we also have a chance in this material body- to be finally free atmas in joyful surrender to the Supream loving embrass of Sri krishna !!
When I chant the Maha Montra I,am still in the presents of My Merciful Guru,(Srila Prabhupada) and I still have the same spiritual estatic, blissful experiences, just as if Prabupada has not gone anywhere…That is because He has not gone anywhere!! In fact We all are still connected to our eternal Jugat Guru.. Yes, if we follow Prabupada’s teachings and chant Hari Krishna Hari Krishna Krishna Krishna Hari Hari, Hari Rama Hari Rama Rama Rama Hari Hari with a full loving heart, with humbleness and with full attention to each and every moment of sound, then It will all soon become very clear to us as to how blissful and joyful we all can realy become..
Our wonderfull and Mercifull Guru, shrila Prabupada, has allowed me to see within my own heart, and by His Grace I have been allowed to make great progress on my Spiritual path. I have seen many amazing things within,,,,, and have felt the real love that we all are searching after.. Krishna is love and we can indeed feel the blissfull mercy of love from Krishna, that is because we are indeed part of the Lord. Krishna only wants all of us to come home to Him, and to give our love energy to him and him alone. That is our real business. So, what is real love ? I know love to be an overpowering blissful energy force that is nothing but pure spiritual pleasure, and spiritual pleasure always gets better and always and only expands to higher and higher levels of enjoyment..and there is no point where as in the material world pleasures will reach a certain level and end. Well this type of material enjoyment simple will not happen within our heart of hearts. We can associate with our beloved Krishna fully, even while we are still within these temporary material bodies, but it has to be our topmost desire, Krishna has to be our topmost desire, TOPMOST DESIRE !!!

However, I do find it so sad when I see all of the nonsence within our spiritual culture.
There have been may things that have happened over the last many years within our spiritual society..
I now tell you all, Big puffed up Gurus as well as people of a nonsence attitude about spiritual life, I,am also telling all of you new people who are trying to sort things out, that It is not too late to know Krishna. It is not too late to make things right again.
It all has to start from each and every on of us.. It is up to us individuals to become pure in heart or in other words, it is up to us to make our love felt by krishna.. Yes we do have the power to surrender to the supream Loving being-Sri Krishna… Radha rani must first be aproched with our devoted and loving hearts, and oh so soon Radhika will allow us to know Krishna with real love..
Soon I pray that all of us will know the laughter and the funny moods of Krishna through the blissful mercy of the Maha Mantra..
The Maha Mantra is actually a language of loving communication with our beloved Lord., If chanted as Prabupada has instructed us, the Maha Mantra will soon be known by all who have a soft loving heart, We all must have a soft loving heart, or there will not be any fast spiritual progress, The progress of true real love within our hearts..
It is all about love. Real love should never be thought of as the so called love we all have tried to obtain with our mundane bodies, for that is lust only and not real love..
Real Love is Spiritual energy, energy that is not allowed to leave the body through the lower modes of non Spiritual thoughts..
We are all made up of God’s love energy, and as we have been taught, we all are the same quality as God..
If we are very attentive and also very humble in our times of chanting the Maha Mantra then we will soon be allowed to experience what is real love. Real spiritual love is what we actually are made up of, It is Krishna Himself. We must also, allway remember that Radha Rani is indeed the internal loving potency of the Lord.. But we must always strive to realize that we can indeed have a full love relatiionship with krishna, but only if we allow our soft loving hearts to shine through, and most important is that we must first of all, ask for the mercy of Srimati Radha Rani to please allow us to aproch the loving embrace of our beloved Lord ” sri Krishna.” So in this humble approch, Radha Rani will be happy to help us towards ultimate glory of LOVE of God,(Krishna)..
If we can only truly accept the form of the Lord, the deities on the alter, are indeed the Supream beings. ?When we look upon them on the alter, one must keep in mind that we are indeed looking into the spiritual real its self,and if we direct our soft loving hearts while in worship and our thoughts are pure, the soon we will be allowed to actually see the deities dance on the alter, and if we start to see these kinds of amazing spiritual activities, then we can indeed know that we are making great spiritual progress..
Remember, that this is the only way we can know krishna, and that way is with a loving heart.. The love must alway be allowed to shine forth from our hearts..

For us fallen souls, it is not very difficult to know Krishna through this Amazing Maha Mantra.. It will indeed completely purify our minds within a very short time,. How long it may take to have a purified
heart ? a As Prabupada has told us in His Lectures and in His books,
The Maha Montra is Krishna and that also means that you and I are also part and parcel of the Maha Montra or in other words, part of Krishna’s LOVE. So, as soon as we desire only Krishna, that is when we will go over to the other side, because spiritual love is a lot like stepping through some kind of a doorway, a doorway into our forgotten rasa with krishna..

It is only this false ego and our puffed up nature that is keeping us far away from Krihna’s intence loving embraces. When we are having uncontroleable laughing and we are smiling without control- while chanting the Hari Krishna mantra, then that is when we know that we are loving our supream lover, and that Lover is krishna.. furthermore, things will only get better from that moment of God realization. It only gets better and more intence.
This is the only business us givas should be doing, and that business is allowing our hearts to fly towards………KRISHNA.
Always remember that our Lord Krishna will indeed allow us to fly with Him all over the spiritual shy, because the Spiritual Sky is within our very own hearts..

Thank you all- who are reading this letter, for allowing me to speak my heart to you.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada
.
P.S. I,am also interested in doing service with any west cost temples that anyone may know about that has very little politics. . and does anyone know of any devotees I can possible stay with in Hawaii ? I have my own income from SSI. and I love the warmer weather.

Please forgive me for any misdeeds or transgressions or offences I may have commited towards anyone of you, over the last forty years of my life.
I,am not a pure soul but by the grace of Srila prabhupada I promise to continue to try to be a humble person…

Always your humble servant, in love and light, Bhaskara….

Hari krishna,
Jai Prabhupada!!!

In love and Light, Your humble servant Bhaskara

» Posted By Bhaskara On March 7, 2009 @ 12:33 am

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  1. Govind says:

    Hare krishna Prabhuji.,Dandvat Pranaam
    May i know about the author of the book”Srila Prabhupada Lilamrita As It Is” named mukund das prabhu.Had he any personal association with Srila Prabhupada.

    • This book is a compilation of direct quotes from Srila Prabhupada speaking about his own life. The author is Srila Prabhuapda, all Mukunda did was compile the quotes and he did a good job of it. He wrote a bit of rubbish on the last 2 pages but apart from that he did not write a single word in the book. It is a collection of Prabhupada quotes and the author of this book is Srila Prabhuapda.

  2. Vamshi says:

    Prabhu Madhudvisa Dasa.Is Jagannath Krishna himself or is just an expansion of Krishna like Vishnu,Rama etc.In Iskcon lectures I heard that Jagannath is Krishna himself,they have proved this by saying a story from Skanda purana.Is this true or Iskcon lectures are just bogus?I found no video Prabhupad talking aboyt Lord Jagannath.Oh Prabhu kindly answer my doubts.Hare Krishna

    • Yes. Lord Jagannatah is Krishna Himself. It is Jagannatha [Krishna] Balarama and Krishna’s sister Subhadra.

      So Jagannatha is deity form of Krishna. He is representation of Krishna with His brother Balarama and sister Subhadra,

      It is deity manifestation of Krishna, Balarama and Lady Subhadra,

  3. tanu says:

    Jai Govind

    I request you clear my doubts.I understand the complexities of life processes,cellular mechanisms and other natural phenomenon cannot be explained solely by reasoning and scientific theories as somewhere or other our knowledge is limited.I am a science student nd nature lover.After reading the article posted by you regarding the concept of the origin of life,a question arisen in my mind that krishna is all powerful,then, why he designed this universe in this complicated way?,why life originated? why he made all that dna etc matter space?what is his true nature? why are we given these bodies these reasoning abilities?why krishna waited for billions of years and made us take birth here?why prakrati and purush got seperated? who were those dinosaurs etc for souls are eternal were those dinosaurs primitive and other organisms we only? are there any planet lest earth having life?why will happen atlast for we are ultimately destined to reach our eternal govind? why doesn’t he appears now and clear all these doubts for one thing is sure that if even he messages in some ways we will submit to him?why krishna is so naughty why has he made everything complicated?I know these are childlish questions but still worthy to be answered…..

    I am a krishana devotee.I feel as if there is pure love for him deep in my heart.But at the same time I do believe in science.Sometimes i find myself stuck in between science emotions belief and devotion.I want to understand my Govind,I want to understand myself.

    I request my friends to please give answer to these questions.I hope i will get atleast answers of a few questions as i found this site quite appealing.

    thankyou!
    Radhe krishna

    • Hare Krishna Jai Govind

      To clear your doubts you have to become Krishna conscious. Because unless you become Krishna conscious you will not be able to understand what Krishna consciousness is and you will remain continually bewildered.

      All these questions are irrelevant. You seem to accept that Govinda exists, that He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Now you have to just surrender to the idea that you are His servant. And then you need to find out practically how you can engage in the service of Krishna. And to find out how to do this you need to read Srila Prabhupada’s books. And in the process of becoming Krishna conscious all your other questions will automatically be answered.

      The scientists can not understand anything. They only have very fragmental information about everything they study. The information we can gather through our material senses is very limited. There are so many things we can not perceive through our material senses. So they can not understand what they can not perceive.

      So instead of just speculating all these questions and being bewildered like this it is better to just admit that in our conditioned state with our very limited mind and our material senses we can not hope to understand Krishna or even this material world which is created ultimately by Krishna.

      The way to understand these things is to become Krishna conscious. We can not understand without becoming Krishna conscious.

      So you have to learn how to become Krishna conscious… That is the answer to all your questions. And Krishna consciousness is a science and that science is very elaborately presented in the books of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

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