Questions From A Muslim With Answers From Khan
I downloaded Bhagvad Geeta from your site and read it. I am extremely impressed and moved by the teachings of Krishana Ji. But being a Muslim, some questions arose in my mind. If you could help me to finding their answers, I will be grateful to you.
Dear sir,
I downloaded Bhagvad Geeta from your site and read it.
I am extremely impressed and moved by the teachings of Krishana Ji. But being a Muslim, some questions arose in my mind.
If you could help me to finding their answers, I will be grateful to you.
1. Why different religions, and I am refering specially to Islam and Hinduism, in contradiction to each other? Is it that some are really from God and others not?
2. If you are of opinion that all religions are from God, then would you please like to explain the reason of contradictions between the religions.
3. Is there any way to act upon the teachings of Krishana Ji, without compromising on the teachings of Islam. For example, being a Muslim I cannot meditate, visualising the image of Krishana Ji.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Muhammad
Lahore, Pakistan
Dear Muhammed
Asalaamulakum and Hare Krishna
My name is Khan and I have visited Pakistan. My parents are both muslims. And they like good muslim parents encouraged me in the islamic way of life. I had a firm belief in God and feared the day of judgement so tried to be good. But sometimes I would fail. Other times I would speculate more about what Allah was like and what heaven is like. But when I asked my elder Muslim brothers and fathers they would often tell me not to think of these things and just take what the Quran and hadith say, full stop.
At this stage in my life I was of the thinking that only Islam, Christianity and Jeudaism were authentic religions since they were all memtioned in the Quran but the Jewish and Christian scriptures had been changed whilst the Quran had stayed the same. But I thought all the other religions were man made idol worship concotions. My muslim upbringing had showed me that Islam was the last and final religion and that Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) was the last Prophet.
But at the age of 17 I, as are you, was most fortunate to come in contact with the Bhagavad-Gita As It Is and Srila Prabhupada’s books. As I read the BHagvad-Gita and many other smaller books I began to realise that all the religions were actually linked. Each religion would come due to time place and circumstance to elevate those particular people to the level of human beings who would begin to engage their minds on God.
“Hinduism” is the oldest then Budhism then Judaism then Christianity then Islam then Sikhism and then Lord CAitanya came. Each had their purpose. You can research each if you want. But when you compare the scriptures of each you will begin to see that there is a common link. Each believes in ONE ultimate God/Reality and each gives processes on how to reach this final goal/reality.
You said in your enquiring message:
1. Why different religions, and I am refering specially to Islam and Hinduism,are in contradiction to each other? Is it that some are really from God and others not?
2. If you are of opinion that all religions are from God, then would you please like to explain the reason of contradictions between the religions.
Well some contradictions that I originally thought of between Hinduism(specifically Bhakti Yoga) and Islam:
1)Reincarnation- I always had a strong inclination that reincarnation occurs even before I came in contact with Krishna consciousness. But Muslims believe that after this life one is judged by God to go into heaven or hell to enjoy or suffer forever onwards. Whereas the Vedic literatures teach us that indeed at the time of death one is judged according to the deeds one has done in that life(ie Karma) and given appropriate next life in either heavenly or hellish body based on qualifications and deire. In fact it is some dear servants of God that look after this process not God directly. Why because in doing so they please God in their service. So if you act righteously and do good deeds and desire to go to heven, after death your soul will be transfered to heaven and you will be born into a heavenly planet. There are different levels of heavenly planets ==7different levels== same as the Islam teaches us in Quran and HAdith that there are 7 levels of heaven. But the real difference in spiritual life of the vedic literatures is that God does not live in the heavenly planets. Even the Quran says that God created the Earth and the Heavens which means that He existed before the Heavens and therfore these are not His eternal abode. So not only do the Vedic LIteratures explain about what the heavenly planets are and how to get there it also explains about Gods abode and how to get there. This is the SPIRITUAL WORLD. In fact there is a HAdith that explains that when Prophet Muhammed ascended to God he penatrated all 7 layers of Heaven. So in fact the aim of life in both religions is to get to God and help serve Him, not simply a paradise were you can enjoy your senses more.
The issue of reincarnation is about realisation really. If you come to the understanding that you are not the body that is constantly changing but rather you are pure spirit soul covered in the materialism then this is a start. (concept of soul is in Islam). But the next stage is to realise that the soul is not the same as the body. It is eternal. But then you may argue that only God is eternal. But God is the eternal master (allah hu akbar) and we are the eternal servants. How can you be a master if there is noone to master over. So the real understanding I have gained is that the soul was not created, we are part and parcel of God. But simultaneously different.
2)Vegetarianism- Now many Muslims almost think that it is faraz(a must) to eat meat to be a muslim. This is simply wrong. At that time remeber the civilisation was quite degraded and the majority of the people would be eating meat, intoxicating on alcohol and gambling and so many other corrupt things. If you study the Quran it will show in the earlier time that the Prophet allowed alcohol in moderation, but later verses do not allow. This is due to at that time place and circumstance to slowly raise the level of the people. Similarly although meat eating is allowed it is not necesarry. In Islam when you kill an animal the halal you must look the animal in the eye and recite Quranic verse and offer 6/7ths of the animal to the poor and eat the rest with your family. Who does this now? In England they have big slaughterhouses. Even Muslim ones and they have a tape player of an Imam saying the payers that recirculates agian and again while the animals are killed one by one in a profit business fashion. I am vegetarian and would only eat meat if necesarry.
Muslims would even ask me about Eid and HAjj, shouldnt you eat meat then? But lets look at the story behind this. When Prophet Abraham was about to sacrife his son due to God asking him in dreams God stopped him and allowed him to sacrifice a sheep instead. But does this really mean that every muslim to celebrate this day should kill a sheep and enjoy and laugh and have party and dress in new fashionable clothes? Or is the moral of the story that on this day we should be prepared to sacrifice something that we are attached too much to(like TV or pop music or so on)?
3)Deity worship- In Prophet Muhammeds time there was an ancient Vedic culture in ancien arabia. But this had become corrupted. And instead of worshipping God people were woshipping stones for some material benefit. MAny idols of many so-called Gods were present. THe general society was degraded—women and men dancing naked around the Kaba and alcohol drinking and gambling and so many other degrading acts.
So at that time place and circumstance a system needed to be introduced to change this society into more of human civilsation. So the Prophet came with Quran and began to win many followers and destroy all these idols and degraded society. Islam would preach no Idol Worshipping, drinking and gave a social structure where women would be honoured.
But Diety worship is not the same as idol worship. Dieties are the authentic forms of God. Just as in the Quran there are many different names of God (for to Him belong all the beutiful names) at least 99 showing His different attributes. So similarly in the VEdic scriptures there are many different forms of God. No one says that since the muslims call Allah by so many different names then they believe in so many different Gods. So if you begin to see Hinduism in this light then you will realise that even the Hindus believe in only one God.
You also asked:
3. Is there any way to act upon the teachings of Krishana Ji, without compromising on the teachings of Islam. For example, being a Muslim I cannot meditate, visualising the image of Krishana Ji.
For me personally it helps me to think of Krishna better when I can see a picture of Him rather than reading a name like Allah or Krishna. But remeber even the names are so spiritually powerful. Because Allah is absolute that means His name, form and voice are non-different. Remember often in the Quran it says that prophets heard God say this or that. So if you can hear God what is the difficulty in seeing God. God is on the absolute platform. So if you can keep the beutiul names of Allah on your lips all the time then you will be spiritually successful.
Even in the Quran there are references of God’s personmal features. These I can give you. Where it mentions that God has eyes,hands, face etc. Remember this is not a material limited body like ours. When a devotee sees a picture of Krishna the picture acts as a spiritual tool because straight away he is reminded of God. So I recommend that you continue to remeber God in the best way you can. If this means keeping His names on your lips then this is also very perfect.
PLease keep reading Srila Prabhupada’s books. They are not ordinary books. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. So many people are converting. But those who convert from Islam, it takes something really powerful to do this. For me I have found this in the Vedic literatures. But remeber you don’t have to give up or throw away anything. You can still pray 5 times a day, go to Masjid and celebrate Eid. But if you want to increase your spirtual life even further then please my Muslim brother take advantage of the knowledge in these books. And distribute it to as many people as you can. After all Muslim means one who submits to the will of Allah.
Please let me know if there are more confusions. Remeber spiritual life is a process of realisation. It may not happen overnight.
Please take care and thank you very much.
Khud Hafiz and Hare Krishna
Khan
why do muslim have so many names for there god
Those are names that describe Allah.
For example, saying that He is the Most Merciful, the Most Forgiving, The All Seeing. These are all names that refer to the SAME GOD – Allah. They’re just different ways of describing our Creator (and it makes Him happy when we refer to him using these different names in our prayers…because we’re saying that All Praise is to Allah – the All Merciful, the Most Forgiving, etc. The names are just descriptions/characteristics of Allah).
I read Muhammad’s advent is mentioned in hindu scriptures like Vedas, Purans, etc
It is not mentioned in the Vedas anywhere and the whole premise of Muhammad being predicted in the Vedas has already been demolished by many scholars. However there is a mention of Muhammad in the Bhavishya Purana. It is written there that, Muhammad was demon by some other name in his previous birth and he had told Raja Bhoj that he could take rebirth and bring forth a clan of terrible people who would do exactly opposite to Dharma.
I find it hard to swallow some of the things Khan had explained.Look,7 layers of heaven is the extra terrestrial entity and the highest point ever reached by a man was Prophet Mohammad.In Islam,there is a demarcation to the extent of exposition of “revealed text”.In short,we cannot go in excess in explaining Mohammad heavenward ascension beyond the perimeter of the Hadith..Arbitrary explanation is sinful and discourage.
Our friend Khan says”So if you can hear God what is the difficulty in seeing God” put him in the danger zone.It is obvious that he is not acquainted with the Cardinal Doctrine of Unity of God in Islam.Desist,and withdraw your statement for you have encroached the established revealed truth about God.Everyone agrees that none have seen God during this physical life.Certain men like Prophets had dealt with God only by His permission.The greatest liars is one who promote the belief that God had descended to earth in the person of human and take away human sins that we all inherited from Adam.All these are pseudo religions far astray.I should remind the readers to refer to Jesus Christ Holy Gospel and look for the first of all the commandment.You also can refer Holy Koran on chapter 112 on this Unity of God.
I know about this, but having inquired in the matter I found that it is a trick of Britishers to make Hindu-Muslim fight, they changed whole literature.
Britishers were doing many things to divide Indians…
Hare Krishna Prabhu to one and all,
I would like to submit the fact that DR Zakir kazi and others islamic people are blindly misguiding the people by Misinterpreting the verses Of Bhavishya Purana Prati sarga shlok 3 and other chapters .It can be clearly written that Mallech means people who do gambling, illicit sex,meat eating including the henious crime of killing Animals etc. Those people will spread evil and it is specifically written in Bhavishya purana that after deafeat of kaurava and later on after the end of the Prithvi raj singh chouhan then muslim rulers(like mohammad gori and all) will create turmoil and hence called as malecha and will try to prove their henious activites as pious.
According to Srimad bhagavat gita : all the living entities/Creatures(AATMA) of the world, WEATHER he is intelligent kazi or dog,priest brahmin or Honourable Dr Zakir naik are the part and parcel inseperable entity lord krishna(Parmatma).
So in this connection i am not able to understand why we kill Any creature weather it is man or animal .Instead we should have Love and affection for all the creatures of God.
One thing which is common to Both Religion is one who is born inspecific date must have to die on a specific date and to will go to heaven or hell. Who can dare to thik that Killing infants and childrens of god (weather man or animal) and doing illicit sex can give heaven to devils??
Srila vyas deva has already written everything about the kaliyuga and mallecha later on called as musalmanas ot mahamud in bhavishya purana and their role in creating AADHARMA in society.Reference are there from chaitanya chartamrita when chaitanya mahaprabhu expelled the doubt of kazi.
Mughal King checked the Power of harinama (Hare Krishna Mahamantra) as We should not forget that Namacharya Haridas Thakur was beaten in 22 markets BY JALLADAS to check weather THERE IS DIVINE POWER IN HARINAMA OR NOT but Ultimetly he bent the knees before haridas thakur and power of Krishna’s Divine Blessing of Haridas thakur.
NASA Scients Proved that today as well there is Long Bridge connectinng the Indian and srilanka submerged under the sea. Even from Nepal (Janakpuri where rama was married) to Srilanka there is proven and accepted concept of Lord rama, Hanumana(as AANJANEYAYA),Sita,Vibhishan anD rAVANA ACCORDING TO lOCAL pEOPLE their ancecstors living
THERE FOR 100 of years.
They also do HArinam sankirtan(Taking the Holy names of the Lord).
Basic thing is that there will be many demons who will be try to misguide us in name of their religion. But think, how many religions you will change??
While beaten harshly by Jallads to accept islam Haridas thakur said i know there is only god and if it has several names then why can’t be Krishna as he is the Supreme Personality of God Head not only revealed in Bhagvat gita but in Bramhvaivart purana, vishnudharmottar pyuran ,harivash puran,bramh sanhita,pADMAPURANA ETC..Indee the summary of all VEDAS,SHASHTRAS AND UPANISHAD the one and Only “SRIMAD BHAGVAT MAHAPURAN”.
See we in world we have 5 different religIONS(CHRISTANITY,ISLAM,HINDUISM,BUDDHISM ETC) which includes buddhism as well and Lord bUDDHA whICh meditated in BOdhitree near Bodhgaya bihar from where buddhism originated is also Incarnation of Lord Vishnu ot Krishna on his 24th Incarnation.
MY HEART FELT WITH THE GREAT AGONY but not anger as i am a Devotee to my Lord Krishna with Firm determination WHEN I HEARD THAT ISLAMIC PEOPLE ARE GIVING FALSE Misinterpretations OF hOLY SCIPTURES LIKE Bhavishyapurana Vedas and Upanishads.
May krishna give right directions to them.
Hare Krishna
Have you noticed in armagedon in the Bible it says Christ will appear on a white horese bradishing a sword with which to destroy the demons and save the holy ones. Oddly enough in the Srimad Bagavatam at the end of the age of Kali Yuga which we are in now, which basically means the age of quarral, decline, hypocrisy ets Krsna will apear as Kalki on a white horse with a sword to kill the demons and save the holy and to start the new age! coincidence? I dont think so!!! Why can’t we all get on, why does some one or some group have to be right, if anything the chanting of the Holy name is the only way for benediction in this age according to Lord Caitanya, as we are so fallen!
Hare Krsna
it’s imam mahdi the one who is mentioned (sri kalki avtar). salaam.
Dearest brother Khan,
My heart melted upon reading your beautiful explanation. For the past several weeks I have been struggling to explain to a muslim sister about Vedanta and Hinduism. I have been trying to explain that we should not tell others that they will be condemned in the hereafter for not believing in a God and that in Vedanta embraces all and teaches that we are all parts and parcels of God… for some reason, we just keep debating the nature of God even though I am trying to show that God is LOVE and loves all equally, the muslim, the hindu, the jew, and yes, even the atheist… I think i will steer them toward your comment.
Thank you again.
dear sister devi,
i know its hard to digest when some one questions about our long practicing ideologies but let me bring this to ur knowledge that out of all the major religions, islam is the only one religion which speaks about one god for the whole of humanity. if u read surah al ikhlas it says that the god we worship is one. today its a sad thing that the religion that once propagated the teachings of one god for the whole of universe and beyond is being thought the same thing. its all because this religion is under negative publicity, and a lot of ignorance of muslims towards media that makes these things to overshadow the beauty of islam. hope u got my point sister islam is the only religion that speaks about the one god who is most benificient and merciful.
may almighty bless u
allah hafiz.
Brother ismail, I respect your belief towards islam. However, I tend to disagree that “islam is the only religion …. “, as I have been told many times by many other muslim brothers. My muslim brothers have a tendency not to read other scriptures and make a belief based on whatever they have read in quaran, hadith, and whatever they are told by their religious scholars. I should tell you that holy scriptures of other religions have very beautiful and enriching contents. I am sure if you read and understand vedic literatures, mahabharata, Ramayana and so…, I am sure your viewpoint about “islam is the only religion … ” will change.
Another question that arises is, if Quaran is the last and final words of Allah for the people, why people in the Islamic countries are going through so much trouble and so much problems. Look at Egypt, Lybia, Siriya, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and so on. Quaran and hadith should have solved these problems.
The reason why so many people are going through difficulties within these countries is because the shariah law is not being practised in these countries simple. Saudi Arabia has implemented the shariah law and it remains the most blessed land in the entire world not simply because of the shariah law but because our beloved prophet’s pbuh walked there it is said our lord Allah swt will test those whom he loves most. You see those who strive in the way of our lord, Allah swt loves them the most. I’m sure there are many hari krishnas out there who are facing difficulties does that mean that your beliefs are wrong? Is that a explanation as to why they are facing difficulties ?
Dear Mr Khan,
I was impressed at your explanation and if all people of different faith will think the same way you do then i guess we would all live happily. As far as I know, all religions teaches us that there is only one God-without form. Prophets and god reincarnation beings(Krishna, Rama, Jesus…) came into this world to lead us to HIM and show us how to live our life in a correct way. All religions teaches to be good and do good to human being and animals.
Now i have few questions:
1. What does Islam say about Hindu-Muslim marriage?
2. What if the hindu(woman) does not want to convert to muslim (man), can they still marry?
3. What does islam say about relationship between a woman(elder) to the man(younger in age)
Thanks
Hare Krishna Preity
We have to get off this platform of thinking “What does Islam say…” The question should be “What does God say.” God is one and His laws are one. So here, at Krishna.org, we are not promoting any sectarian religion like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc. We are simply discussing the science of God and what God says. And Krishna [God] in the beginning of the Bhagavad-gita spends a considerable amount of time convincing Arjuna that he is not the body but the spirit soul within the body. So we are not Hindus, Muslims or Christians. We are all eternal servants of God, Krishna…
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
Dear Devi…,of course we should tell others that they will be condemned in the hereafter for not believing in God(not in “a” God,as you wrote)…and there is only one God,above all perceptions and human opinions…and He loves every living entity,but only his loving servants can approach to Him full of love…
There is not democracy and other man made nonsenses in the spiritual world,such as equality,defense of only rights and without obligations,feminism,comunism,speech freedom without the responsability of our own words when we are wrong,etc…Haribol…Krishna hu akbar!!!…Hare Allah!!!
There are many names for god but we all believe in god so lets not fight over whos right or wrong!Just have believe!
Hare Krishna brother Khan
All glories be to Srila Prabhupada!
I have a question which is relevant to the article. The thing is that Islam as faith has given nothing good to the world. Ever since its inception, 1400 years ago, Islam has breed a creed of fanatics and killers.
Forgive me for being direct as a devotee of Sri Krishna I feel it is my duty to differentiate between good and evil. While the Koran might have a few good things written in it, on the whole it is full of hatred for those who don’t call themselves as Muslims and don’t submit to the Islamic faith.
Cults like Islam were prohecised in the Shreemad Bhagwatam and false prophets like Muhammad are the ones were should try to be aware of.
Hence aren’t we as devotees of the Supersoul, being not being completely truthful about the nature of Islam being hypocritical?
Forgive my question if it sounds hurtful, but I believe that it is genuine never the less.
Brother,
Your concept of Islam is wrong. Its only the people who are giving bad reputation not the religion itself. Prophet mohammed himself said to respect other religions.
Hello Muhammad
Hare Krishna. It was nice to read that you read Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavat Geeta.
Srila Prabhupada’s books have answers to all the questions. Even the questions you have asked. As Prabhupada quoted, actually there is no contradictions in religions. But we see such differences because our capacity to see, understand, etc. is very limited.
Please keep reading more books of Srila Prabhupada and you will get answers to all your questions.
Hare Krishna
Iyer
U r the one whom I am looking for to minimize the gap between Hindisim & Islam.Trust,me I am a follower of Srila Pravupada.From my side I am trying to understand islam by reading quoran.But my mission cannot get success without u.So pls keep contact me thruogh my mail.Trust me we can do a lot to the society & we have to.Otherwise there will be nothing remain by some peoples.
Hare krishna.
Thanks Dear Khan to give such article
Hare krishna
Hare Krishna
Namaskar
As (trying my best to be) a pure Vaisnava, having left Islam, let me point out exactly what brought me to Sanatana Dharma:
1. Killing of my ego
2. Love of all living beings which have soul (human beings, animals, birds… plants do not have soul)
3. Agreeing to bear ANY physical, social, moral or emotional hardship / sacrifice to embrace WHATEVER the truth be (Sanatana Dharma)
In this course, I realized that as a Muslim I was committing so many sins that I should have controlled had I thought more deeply. And in Islam, they were “not sins”!!! Such as illicit sex with slave girls (I didn’t commit this one), killing animals and eating meat, funding and morally supporting apostate killers (an apostate, as I am now, is also a human being).
I do not offer NAMAZ any longer, because if I do, it will be equivalent to advertising the ideology of clear sins and hatered i.e. “Islam”.
Jai Shree Krishna
Rajesh Kumar Ksatriya
assalamalekum
Rajesh Kumar
1.llicit sex with slave girls is a sin in islam also .its not correct to say that islam is wrong because some of the muslims are doing that.
2.killing animals ,u said that plants have soul then dont u eat vegetarian food,do know that cow feel pain when we collect milk ,dont u drink milk.
3.u said that u love all living beings then why dont u bing stray dogs ,cows that are on roads in our country,and snaks etc.
4.u gave up islam because u dont understood it ,i suggest u to reed holly quran. i am not telling u to give up u r hindu religion.
5.finally if u want to know a eligion dont see what the people of that religion are doing ,i suggest u what actually they are said to do through the holy books.
i will pray for u ,so that u can find the right path again u left
may allah forgive all u r sins
like to hear from u
killing animals ,u said that plants have soul then dont u eat vegetarian food,do know that cow feel pain when we collect milk ,dont u drink milk.
Even mother feeds milk to a born child feels pain…wats the point??
Thats Y in Hinduism,COW is designated place of a MOther.
And plants dont have a nervous system,if u know anything abut that..??
Hi
‘Such as illicit sex with slave girls’ – Where does it say this explicitly in the Quran? Illicit sex is forbidden.
‘Namaz’ is actually callled Salat or Salah. Prove to me in one way how this is ‘equivalent to advertising the ideology of clear sins and hatered i.e. “Islam”.’
What truth have you come to? The fact you seemingly accept many religions as truths yet innately contradict each other and reject your theology!
For example bible entices that salvation can only be through Christ. The Old Testament forbids idolatry and claims this to be the work of Satan. Islam associates idolatry as an innovation and states all innovations are from Satan.
You want truths, I’ll tell you one. The Vedas states the Moon is 800,000 miles furtherer then the sun? I find that hard to believe.
Brothers we are not here to fight we are here to discuss about our religions in a respectful manner please respect other religion whether you are a devotee of Krishna or Allah.
Rajesh Kumar,
even an amoeba has a soul.. Plants have soul.. who said they dont??? You betrayed one religion to be blind in the new as you were in your previous!
Dear Mr. Rajesh,
I think u r telling lie that you were muslim. Actully u were not muslim. if were muslim, u must knew sex with out nikah is sin and it carry pushment as death sentense.
Sencondly, for eating meat, I would like tell that :
1. Human teeth are designed for eating meat. all the animal eat meat have sharp poited teeth as human have.
2. Every vegetable is live being has proof science. so if kill one baffolow then we kill one live being and cosume somany people but one man consume many vegetable for eating
3.According some hindus eating fish is fish they called sea fodd. some if we kill animal consume that is not sin.
4. Meat is subsitute of food from acceint time.
5. According myths some hindu’s god also consume meat.
Brother Wajid,
Hindu’s Goddess Kalka drinks blood and consumes meat of DEMONS … not of innocent animals
I’m not sure where you got the elicit sex with slave girls from exactly but i know what your referring too, this is also seen in Christianity and Judaism, the word is concubine. Is not elicit since its allowed in all abrahamic religions. Also you should rethink what you have said, it’s not very logical? Let me give you a hint, what you consider a sin is not necessary what I consider a sin?
hare krsna.
hello khan….. why dont u write books on these topics to open the eyes of people who are in dark, prabhupad ji will be very happy . this is a devotee request ,please move forward and write more,
Hare Krishna,
This is amazing reply. Thank you very much. The questions asked by Muhammad were there in my mind also, from last few days as I had conversation with a muslim friend of mine.
well now mullahs are bringing down the buildings and causing terror everywhere-wat is their religion saying about this and its followers now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look as far as I can see after reading many comments are that majority of you here aren’t actually here to learn anything about religion you are more interested in making enemies this time spent insulting a fellow human being could have been spent battering ourselves and doing something more productive correct me if I’m wrong but time is precious every breath gone is a breath that will never return.
Srila Prabhupada mentioned that you’re on the right path if you are serving and loving God. Nevertheless,he stressed you must obey the religious principles. I read he mentioned Christians can’t even follow one of their commandments: Thou shall not kill, breaking this rule by meat eating and supporting slaughter houses. Now, suppose you are a Muslim and you follow the Holy Qur’an. The Qur’an list what is permissible and what is forbidden. Some types of meat are listed as being permissible for humans to eat. Say a pious Muslim follows all his religious rules with a true, honest heart, and takes the Holy Qur’an as the word of God. From a Krsna Conscious point of view, is this considered a true devotee of God?
Can a Muslim return back to Godhead after this lifetime?
Lol, ten commandments apply to jews and Christians, thou shall not kill is not in reference to animals but related to to Jews in the desert who use to kill each other over small matters. Read it in context. The laws were given to the Jews, within the Jewish faith, they are pescribed what meats are permissible and those that are not.
I will answer point wise each questions asked by Shaik above
1) Islam was preached by Prophet Mohammed during the time when there was lot of human killings and injustice in the middle east and so he gave various rules to lead a pious life which were appropriate to those people at that point of time. They were very sinful and degraded people that they couldnt follow any austerities. They couldnt control their sexual desires. So Prophet allowed polygamy in the religion and the right to have sexual relationships with many women.
2)Killing animals and killing plants are not one and the same. There is a difference. Animals are at a higher level of ‘consciousness’ than plants and more evolved in terms of perception of sensation. No wonder killing any life is sinful, but as we know in this material world one organism is food for another and Lord Krishna tells what kind of food that humans have to consume. In Bhagavad Gita (9.26) Lord says “If you offer Me a fruit, flower or leaf with devotion I will accept it.” Any food before consumption should be offered to the Lord and then we have to eat the remnants of it which is called Prasadam. Otherwise we will get the karma of the food. But eating meat amounts to higher level of crime than even eating vegetarian food without offering to the Lord. Meat eating is for animal life, not human life.
3) Love all animals means obviously not harming them and allowing them to live peacefully. This statement of yours carries no meaning. For that matter if you believe in Islam that we should love all humans doesnt mean you accomodate all people of this world or your town in your home. I can still explain you more things about this but there is no space here to.
4) We the Hare Krishnas have read all the Holy books. Quaran, Bible, Bhagavad Gita and everything. We dont say other holy books are wrong. Everything is correct. Its just the level of understanding of God which differs in each. The Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita gives highest information about God than any other scriptures because it was spoken by God Himself unlike the messengers of God in any other scriptures.
5) Ofcourse the Holy book teaches right things but people go in a wrong way because they do not have complete knowledge. As rightly said half knowledge is always dangerous..
killing the animal is not same as eating vegeterian, infact it doesnt mean killing plant, see the coconut tree, every year it will give coconut,humans using only the products.
I appreciate the explanation given by Khan.However,he has not been able to answer what Muhammed’s basic question was. If all religions are from God then why are there contradictions? Why does God clearly say in one book that there’s no image of Him and attributing any image to him is a majour sin..but in the other book He says He is Kirshna and he has an image and not only that there are so many aunthentic forms of him(dieties) each one with a different physical image. Why does God give contradicting message to his servants? No wonder Hinduism is far older than Islam.But in Qura’n God has clearly said,this is my last and final message and with this your religion is complete. Then isnt it necessary that we follow what is written in Quran?(if there are contradictions with previous scriptures)
It is not appropriate to compare 99 names of Allah with the concept of different forms of God.The 99 names of God are only describing God’s chareters.For exp Ar Rehman is one name of God that means Most merciful.And all these names are used in order to praise the one almighty God alone.But no matter which name we call him we are worshipping that one Lord alone. We are not setting partners with him Where as when we say God has different forms and each form has a different image..we are going against the basic teaching of God there’s no image of him.And moreover we are not only attributing one image to him but multiple images. Worshiping these forms of God and praying to them to fulfil our needs,isnt it setting partner to the ONE LORD?
However,in which part of Bhagwad geeta, the image of Sri Krishna has been described? The image of Sri Krishna that is worshipped by his followers,from where was that image obtained? And in which scripture and which verses the different forms of God and their appeanrance has been mentioned? How many such authentic forms are there? which are all those? where have they been mentioned?
If Sri Krishna is the one God and if Hinduism according to Hindu scriptures also there’s one God..then why are there so mnay temples with so many differnt Gods like lord Ganesha,Shiva,Vishnu,Sarswati and so on??
Kindly help me understand this
This is because the people have lost the true meaning of religion and are starting to make up their own rules for their own benefit. Krishna or Allah they are the same God with different name. Its just us foolish humans who think we are the only right people and others are wrong.
Hare Krishna,
As i have read the last paragraph from may 25 2010 reply from PEACE, I would like to shred little bit knowledge which i gained from ShriPrabhupada.
Brother as you have said about contradictions in religions or words of god or Krishna, some points are below-
1.According to Srimad Bhagvat, Vedas and Purans,there are three forms of god.one is Nirakaar form which means no particular image.It is like the light of Sun.But here Nirakaar form which is also called Nirakaar Joyti or light which is divine,eternal and spiritual.
2. Second form is Parmaatma form which is a localized personality of god that is in heart of every living entity, smallest particle of earth which ever it may be in the world.By this form god can enter smallest of all things to biggest form like universe.
3.third is Krishna form which has all qualities at one time.It is the spiritual light which naturally comes out from Krishna body like sun spreads its light,lights up the entire spiritual and material world.Please note this carefully this Spirtual light or Joyti is Nirakaar form of KRISHNA which i mentioned above (point-1).in Islam where they worship Allah as god without any form is the Niraakar light or form and which is eternal.
So one may worship Krishna or god different forms like Niraakar or formless or god residing in heart in Parmaatma form or Shri Krishna form which has all spiritual qualities in him as he is source of everything.He is the origin of of a smallest particle to biggest in the universe.
Now dear brother i would like to shed light on the confusion which was about contradictions in Krishna words where he says he has form at one place and in another place that he as no Swaroopa or personality or he is without image.
As described above Nirakaar form or without image form also is part of Krishna so if god says that he has no form is absolutely right.divine light has no form but it is coming out from Krishna body naturally like sun rays comes out from sun which is formless but Sun itself is a form which we can see.if we read Shri Prabhupadas as is it Bhagdvat Gita or Shrimad Bhadvatam it can be understood.
In India there are many followers of a saint Shri Sankracharya who worship nirakaar form of god and want to become formless after merging of their soul.if you see Islam they also say that Allah is divine noor which means light.so you will find people with different beliefs.
the conclusion is Bhagvatgita or other Purans may seem contradictory in some cases but they are not as their are reasons for that which we can understand by a pure Devoote like Sirla prabhupada books.
In the end dear brother i would say some more lines.Bhagvad Gita or Srimad Bhagvatam and Purans say that if we worship Nirakaar form god or Imageleess god we will not get the whole bliss of god so if we want full bliss and want serve god as a servant forever should avoid Sankracharya path which gives end fruit to be one with god as Imageless personalty.rather worship krishna which is origin of every other form of him.krishna says this message in Gita.
Jai Sirla Prabhupad
hare krishna.
hari bol… srila prabhupad ki jay!!!!
…most of the so called muslims worship a lot of material things…most of the so called hindus worship a lot material things…the same for the so called jews ,for the so called christians,mormons,jainists,bhudists,…and for the tousends of so
called religious sects.People,in general don´t follow any religion.They just say that they do,but they don´t.Even the so called vaishnavas,most of them,they don´t follow Srila Prabhupada,nor his teachings.Most of muslims don´t follow the Quran.
And the same for all religions and sects.Even millions and millions of so called religious peope never read their sacred scriptures.First of all,we should accept
this before we talk about religions,for most of people are not representatives of their own religions.Who really follow the Prophet Muhammad?…Who really follow Jesus instructions and love as he did?…Who is ready to stop worshiping all the own hobbies related with demoniac tendencies and sins?.Who is not able to do anything for money?…Who cares for moral,loyalty to God and for all the divine qualities to be developed by human beings who claim to have the truth trying to destroy the others who are not from his religious group,it does not matter if it is according to what God wants from them?.I am sorry,but
this is what is going on in the world.There are only a few muslims,a few number of christians,too…and a few amount of follower who really take this seriously.They hate each others even for what they don´t know,because they don´t have any knowledge about the other religions…and many of them don´t
know even the theological basis of their own religion…and a lot of them are able to kill the so called religious “enemy” without having faith in God…I saw that so many times…There are a lot of so called devotees who don´t believe in Krishna as God,and are envious from Srila Prabhupada,but they continue worshiping them as if they were idols,not Deities.Demons are inside all kind of religions,preaching without God about God…
Namaskaar and Hari Krishna!
What a fantastic argeument set forth about Islam, and the differences between Hinduism and Islam, being narrowed down.
In our Hindu path – we must remember that there are various levels of avatars and also Rishis who come for various purposes. For example – Buddha preached atheism, but came at a time to do so when Hinduism had become corrupt. But, that is not to say all Hindus today should misinterpret ahimsa, as Krishna himself states we should take up arms to defends dharma if required (but not unnecessarily kill for eating food or invade other nations for the sake of it).
We also note Dayanand Saraswati the founder of Arya Samaj came when Islam and Christianity were threatening Hinduism, and created the Vedic beleif system and thereby restored Vedic rituals and chanting of Gayatri etc.
Gobind Singh of Sikhs also created a movement whereby Sikhs gained greater powers of the Kshatriya or warrior caste to fight invaders, and wore various turban, bangle, beard etc. (“five k’s”), which were relevant at that time in history but not valid today, as Buddha’s doctrine and Arya Samaj.
Likewise, Muhammad appears to have come at such a time of decline in Arabia and likewise preached a doctrine to bring people back to their senses.
Unfortunately, the words of such people are misinterpreted if taken too literally and not in a yogic or metaphoric or symbolic manner at times also. Some verses also applied to wars required at his time (like Mahabharata war served a purpose, but doesn’t mean we should invade the world).
Revelations of St. John is one such texts misinterpreted literally, when it should be yogically. Muhammad and Jesus etc. came into contact with Yoga and Vedic teachings – but remember, they understood them, but taught to masses of ignorant people not versed in these sciences of yoga, bhakti etc, nor their intended symbolism!
Ila means ” to worship / revere” in the Vedas of India, and the name of the daughter of the current 7th protogenitor of mankind (Manu). India was named after her (Ilavarta), and she was also connected to Goddess Saraswati – who connects to the Vedas and the divine Sanskrit language and their revelation, the power behind her husband, Brahma.
Ila and Allah are hence related terms.
We also note Saraswati and Brahma are similar to Sarah and Abrahman of the Judeo-Christian traditions.
May all faiths unite!
HARI OM!
Nice to see intellectual discussions taking place and people trying to explain their religions to each other. A few points for us to ponder:-
1. Religion is written in a language and every language is inherently not a form of absolute communication.
2. All languages are handicapped by context to their origins and times.
3. All languages in which religions are written are subject to interpretation by humans.
4. Human interpretation is again subject to birth, culture, understanding, intelligence, environment, period in time, biases, egos, etc.
5. Most religious texts have been tampered with by individuals or groups to further their own ends in various stages of history.
6. It can never be proven if the words spoken by the originators of the religions and what was written by the scribes or altered/inserted/deleted later was the same.
7. Empirical evidence will never be available for religion and therefore the scientific community relying on logic will never be convinced. In reverse religion is a matter of faith and has no logic to it. Therefore the conflict in ideology will always be between science and religion as their very starting points are different.
Our Prophet’s Great Attachment to His Birth Religion
by Ayesha Ahmed
01 May, 2007
Our great prophet picked something from every great religion so that all practicing Muslims can get blessings from every major God. Since he himself was a born idols praying Hindu/pagan, needless to say that Hinduism was closest to his heart. That is the reason he chose Hindu Moon God Allah as Islamic deity and moon as as the universal Islamic symbol.
“Hindus have been referring their Deity moon goddess Durga as “Allah” in Sankrit in their chants since early period of Hinduism”; Ref: Kaaba a Hindu temple
He also chose Hindu God Lord Siva’s temple “Kaaba” (built by King Vikramaditya* for Moon God Siva) as Islam’s holiest place and required all Muslims to pray and bow towards it. In addition he picked Hindu pilgrimage Haj as the highest form of worship and the only worship which washes all the sins away. He made black stone (Hajar Aswad ,the symbolic lingum (private part ) of Lord Siva , which was made a part of Siva temple Kabah by King Vikramaditya), as the most revered stone of of Islam , to be touched and kissed by all pilgrims.
King Vikramaditya inscription was found in the Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire and that he, who highly revered Lord Siva, built the Siva temple called Kabah.. The text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is found recorded on page 315 of a volume known as ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey. Rendered in free English the inscription says: “Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king Vikram’s reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us- foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognizant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya’s behest.”
Many Kabah stones have Sanskrit words inscribed from pagan days, however the black curtain covers these inscriptions.
The hajar-e-Aswad is an oval black stone , about seven inches in diameter 2 feet 6 inches long in the shape of a male private part. Kissing and praying to this stone representing Lord Siva’s lingum is for libido and fertility . It was the practice of arab pagans including Prophet Mo to kiss Hajar-e-Aswad, and pray for shakti (hindi word for strength) to men’s sexual strength and women’s fertility.
Sahih Bukhari ,page 396, No. 808
`Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said, ” Had I not seen Allah’s Messenger (Peace be upon him) kissing you, I would not have kissed you”
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It is a well known fact that most of the healthy and well fed non Muslim men hardly manage to impregnate their wives once or twice in their life time. The result is that their populations are dwindling.. On the other hand thanks to the baraka of black stone touching and kissing Muslim men grow up with a very high libido. That is why they are allowed four wives and unlimited number of slave girls, enabling them to multiply like rabbits( Ask the French, they know, from almost a nonexistent Muslim population just a few years back France will become a Muslim majority country within next 20 years. If this is not the irrefutable proof of Islam’s truth, then what is? (Dr. Zaheer and Dr. Ghamdi can use this in their debates in FFI)
Another Hindu tradition our great prophet maintained from his Hindu days is that of the sacred water concept* during Hindu pilgrimage and worship. According to the Hindu tradition sacred water (of Ganga) is also inseparable from the Shiva emblem as the crescent moon. Wherever there is a Siva emblem, sacred water must co-exist. True to that association a sacred fountain exists near the Kaaba. Its water is held sacred because it has been traditionally regarded representing Ganga water since pre-Islamic times (Zam-Zam water). Muslim pilgrims who go to the Kaaba for Haj regard this Zam-Zam water with reverence and take some bottled water with them as sacred water. (like Hindus take Ganga water home from pilgrimage). Many Muslims soak their shrouds with the sacred zam zam water, a religious tradition from their Hindu ancestry of pouring sacred Ganga water on their dead.
Prophet Mo also kept the Hindu religious tenet of circumambulating seven times in their religious ceremonies. Our prophet ordered Muslims to go around kabah seven times as part of Haj which was part of Hindu worship prior to capture of Mecca..
Another great tenet our prophet carried on from Hinduism is the concept of washing of all of one’s sins through pilgrimage to Hindu temples at Ganga river and by taking a dip in Ganga water.. Prophet said you wash all your sins by going to pilgrimage to Kaaba and drinking sacred Zam Zam water. This Haj worship concept is a win win situation for all concerned.. God Siva is happy that millions come and circumambulate his temple and kiss his symbolic private part, pilgrims including killers, pedophiles, adulterers, robbers and rapists are happy that their sins of lifetime get washed just by walking seven times around Kaaba and the local businesses and Muallims (prayer leaders) are happy that they can laugh all the way to the bank all year round.
Prophet Mo also maintained the word Eid from Hinduism to celebrate the completion of Haj worship at the Siva temple of Kabah. Eid in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic word Eid for festive days, signifying days of worship, is a pure Sanskrit word.
Hindus also practice all night worship of moon Goddess Durga (Allah) on certain nights called “Jagratta” and believe that by doing that their worship is worth a lot more blessings.. Prophet Mo did not want Muslims to lose out on that count and thus included three “Jagratas” in Islam, shab-e-Qadar, Shab-e-Barat and Shab-e-Meraj when Muslim salats are worth a lot more than average salat. Practising Muslims pray like crazy during these nights to gain extra blessings ( mostly out of shape Muslims can hardly walk next day from all night of sit ups)
In summary our great prophet incorporated the following Hindu religious rituals and concepts to ensure that Muslims also get blessed by Hindu Gods Siva and Hindu Goddess Allah ( Durga) (along with Yahweh, the God of Abraham and Ahuramazda the God of Zoroastrians whose religious tenets he also incorporated in our beloved religion of Al Islam).
1. Adopting Hindu deity moon God Allah as the deity of Islam
2. Making Hindu Moon God Siva’s temple Kaaba as the holiest place of Islam
3. Making the black stone as the most holy stone of Islam and making touching and kissing of it as a a blissful act of Sunnah.
5. Adopting the Hindu pilgrimages Haj and Umra as the highest worship in Islam.
6. Shaving the heads as Hindus do for pilgrimages
7. Circumambulating the Siva temple Kabah 7 times as Hindus did.
8. Adopting the Hindu concept of washing all the sins by making the holy pilgrimage.
9. Collecting holy water representing Ganga Jal (zam zam water) as Hindus do to take holy blessings home.
10. Wearing White seamless cloth during pilgrimage as Hindus wear during their religious ceremonies and pilgrimages.
11. Celebrating the completion of worship of Siva temple Kabah by giving it the Hindu Sanskrit name of EidEid.
12. Including all night worships of moon God Allah (Durga) called Jagratta as part of Islam.
Jazakallah Khair and namaste.
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Why majority of muslims are becoming terrorists?
Majority? Do you really know the Muslim community or you watch too much TV?
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This site is designed just wonderfully enough to satisfy the reader in all articles about Bhakti and also with the truths of modern science…
I have found this site extremely useful for my daily study schedule…
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I would like to mention one thing here, Srila prabhupadha said that his Guru Maharaj Srila Bhaktisidhanta Saraswati Goswami Prabhupadha accepted Christ and Hajrat Mahomad as saktaya avatar(a jeva tatva specially empowered by Krishna)
So i dont think we have any thing to discuss about the Position of Hazrat Mahomamd, As Sarasvati thakur accepted them as representative of God,
We can only discuss there teachings
Hare Krishna
dear all,
I am a china based Indologist. Please forgive me for wrong english . for I am good at mandarin. To the quetion posted above I can say that you dont need to learn the differences of religion. As far as hinduism and teachings of Gita is considered , hinduism is not a religuon it is just a way of life at absorbs all the religious views into it. that means you can still be a muslim being a hindu , or christian being a hindu or even like me an atheist being a hindu. what hinduism says is that only God is real and the world we see around which includes materialistic sysyem, are all illusion caused by our senses. there is no good and no bad, no virtues and hence no sin no heaven and no hell . only thing is we are manifestation ofBramh and one day merge into it. If you happen to study Physics and biolgy in details you will agree to the “illusion part “. For more reading on founding principle of hinduism dont just read Gita or vedas or puranas……read yog sutras , upanishads, bramh sutra, Sankhya karika. To get a clue just clik on this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy and read in detail each link further, you will realise you dont need to shun your religion for being an hindu or following tha path of hinduism.
Regarding the 7 layers of Heaven, there are 7 heavens, depending on your deeds and piety will depend on which heaven you will go to, you are not born again because the soul does not cease to exist. Therefore this interpretation is wrong. In Islam god resides on above heaven ‘And He is Allaah above the heaven and on the earth He knows your private and public affairs. And He knows what you achieve’ which befits the Vedic Beliefs and your comment. Islam is clear on singular mortal life and then everlasting bliss or torment. The concept of reincarnation does not exist. Ultimately our salvation is to Prayer, Charity, Righteous deeds, etc we will gain reward for it.
Regarding the master issue. In the Quran God makes it clear that he does not need mankind, he does not need to master over yet he still is and will the everlasting omnipotent king. Also the soul was created by God in Islam which again contradicts the Vedic literature.
The Abraham story is kind of correct; however it is the teaching of the prophet to sacrifice an animal and to you and meet and enjoy your family. The sacrifice you mentioned bit is more relevant to fasting. EID is actually a day of celebration. ‘Feast of Sacrifice’.
99 names of his attribute not versions!! Islam forbids idolatry and intermediary which contradicts your religions. God does not have intercessor nor does he have an image (Also stated in Christianity and Judaism.) If god is divine and unlimited then he cannot be comprehended, so a man image is not sufficed and you are inherently limiting god.
in Surat ash-Shura, ayah 11: “There is nothing like Him and He is endowed with hearing seeing.”
“He who believes that Allah filled the heavens and earth or that He is a body sitting above the Throne, is a kafir.” Allah the Most High says in the Noble Qur’an (Maryam, 93) :
The Verses makes clear the difference from the universe and god and that he does not exist which human like features or anything we can comprehend.
You do miss the obvious contradiction between these religions, and there is within the Hari Krisna theology absurdity and hypocrisy.
I would warn people to stay away. It is ultimately nonsensical gibberish.
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Peace be upon u ol
Aftr reading d abv comments i wud lyk to point out certain tngs:
1.One should have a neutral approach with an open heart while understandin about other religions widout being partial about owns..We should have d ability to accept wot is beautiful in a religion rather dan criticisin some lame issues wich 1 has no knowledge about
2.Before believing certain quotes n interpretations dat ppl hav made above one should go back to the scriptures and check der authenticity n den try to understand in wot cöntext hav dey been said..
3.Regarding Islam,i would like to say dat its not only a religion but a complete way of life..it teaches you how to deal wid d smallest of issues n is a complete blessing 4 humankind..Since i myself m a revert to Islam i can clearly c d differnce betwn Hinduism n Islam..But as d Quran says ders no compulsion in religion..so v hav r brains n v hav r scriptures..no intermediary reqd vo can just go n apply r common sense dats it!!
May Allahs blessings be upon u all
Plus der has to b sumtng in d widest spreadin religion(Islam) in d world specialy in d west whr ppl r highly intelignt n literate..isnt it??
Just b true to ur hearts!
radhe krishna,
as lord shree krishna explained in his talks in Bhagvatgeeta that all that we thinks we do we perform depends on three type of gun sattogun,rajogun & tamogun here it is clearly explaind that in sattogun a person clearly understands what is true for ex he says Lord Shree Krishna is the Supreme Personlity of the godhead because he knew that krishna has himself explained in Bhagvatgeeta that im the source of all living and non living being,next is Rajogun in this catagory a person always thinks of gaining something such as filmstars,they are always doing makeups to become beautiful but they ll having that much knowledge that this is temporary and third one is Tammogun in this categories people are called as rascals(moorkh) by lord shree krishna because they never do good for themselves and not for others for ex. Some people sees the reality eventhought their illusion dont wants to accepts this reality they just goes on argueing that krishna is robber because he always used to steals the butter , he steals clothes of gopis
My dear peoples part and parcels of lord shree krishna if u beleive that lord krishna steals butter,clothes then why dont u beleive that lord krishna lifted mountain Govardhana and why dont u beleive whatever he explained in Bhagvat geeta is true this is nothing but the effects of tammoguna so simply by fighting my religion your religiong just try to understand what is religion just like prabhupada said religion is to understand god and to love him and that is perfect knowledge.
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KRISHNA is the supreme personality of godhead and wen he incarnates on tis earth he is not an ordinary person but a person who is in ignorance he think tat KRISHNA is an ordinary person.when he is on earth is not under control of the three modes of nature because the three modes of nature is under the control of LORD SHRI KRISHNA.wen he divides himself then his power will nt become less,he is 100% powerfull.he can divide hw mch he wantd to divide nd his pwr remain the same.a person who is in ignorance(tammo guna) can never understand KRISHNA and HIS SPIRITUAL PWR and ACTIVITIES.SO be in goodness(satva guna).and plz read the books of srila prabhupada continuously and hve conct wth the pure devotees.
Everyone stop fighting for religion. Iam a muslim and i love
My prophet muhammad pbah. I also love lord shiv , lord ram
And prabu krishna. Let me tell u why because they all came for
The same reason. They tried to teach us some of us learnt and most
Of us fighting and ignoring there teaching. Read and think they all are
The same showing us the same path but we dont learn. Who ever
Learnt they are the eternal and we are just creatures.
Think u are a muslim because u was born muslim.
Think u are hindu because u was born hindu.
God gave us brain to use but we dont.
To understand the fact of all religion and why we are here
Then take the path of finding god.
Ignore what who says and believe in yourself truly u will
Find muhammad pbah, lord shiv, ram and krishna in your heart
In one form.
Lots of misconceptions on all sides. The ones committing intolerance in name of Islam are biggest kafirs, the Holy Prophet (sallahu alaihi wasallam) had predicted the rise of these khawarij at the end of days. Islam is an open door and daily millions leave it and enter it because this is Allah’s wish. Apostasy punishments we hear of from places like Pakistan, we need to ask are these more caused by our deen or by old tribalistic customs of subcontinent/central-Asia area? We as Muslims can only make dua for those who had benefit of being exposed to Islam from early age, why they left it and inshallah one day they may see the errors in their judgements and return to Allah’s path. I am willing to read and learn the beliefs of the Vaishnavas but I cannot help but think that the whole Chaitanya and later Srila Prabhupad movements are heavily Islam-influenced. Upon seeing how many Hindus were receptive to the message of tawheed and Islam (including my own ancestors), some of the Hindus needed to react in order to not lose demographics.
Islam is universal for all geographical places and all time contexts starting from 1400 years ago till Judgement Day. The literalists aka khawarij are giving wrong interpretations and making it seem like Islam is antiquated religion. While we can give great respects to Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Srila Prabhupad like we can give to Mother Teresa and Mahatma Gandhi, we cannot accord them a place in jannat as they did their service for the duniya and not in name of Allah. Moreover these later Hindu reformers are Islamically-influenced, meaning the Vaishnav tradition was improved by Islam…while Islam in itself is perfect and does not need reform (although we do need proper interpretation as Rasulullah would want and reject the extremist khawarij).
Unfortunaterly people mistaken the Prophet, the Qur’an, Allah/God and Islam with the bad attitudes of people who call themselves Muslims. As you said, many people nowadays are acting in accord to tribal costumes of land’s traditions, and the media is exposing these people saying “look what Islam is!” and ignorant people believe.
Their leader Prabhupada himself sai that Muhammad was a Vaishnava (these are his words) and these people who claim to follow Prabhupada call the Prophet a demon in another incarnation or a trouble maker. Try to understand, they don’t even agree with the words of their leader and think they can criticize Muslims who fail to abide to the rules of Islam…
Actually Prabhupad did not say prof Mo was a Vaishnav. He was supposed to be Quarayshi Brahmin. However he could not have even been that because he lived by the sword. True Brahmins are peace abiding intelligent beings, not murderers, plunderers and female oppressors. However if you Amelia are a woman and enjoy being treated as a slave on beck and call without rights and privileges, then perhaps you are in the correct position of exploitation: what could be better for you than Islam? Your limited knowledge and hatefulness like many muslims and christians is apparent. If you really Love God, by now you would have seen some enlightenment and moved beyond discrimination. Have you?
I really admire your efforts Mr Khan. I an glad to see people talking about all religion as one. This should happen more offen, people should talk it our rather chatting on facebook or whats app. And I really hate people who are faces of perticular religion on mass media, it may be from Hindu also they talk to much wrong I just hate them. Why cant people use their head to analys things? “Koi kuch bhi ketha hai aur log sunte to hai aur follow bhi karte hai.” The movie Oh my god has given a beutiful message, changed thinking of people saying that, God is not my father he is my friend n I believe so.
I want the matter in Hindi
Hi KHAN Sir, I was really impressed of seeing your answers. There is only one thing say WATER. We call it as NEER, Hindi people call it as PANI i think so. In English it was again water. Other peoples call it in their own mother tongue. Similarly GOD is ONE. We call it Lord MURGA, SHIVA, KRISHNA, AMMA etc. U call him as ALLAH, CHrist brothers call him as YESUA. I love all my dear ISLAMIC, CHRISTIAN brothers & sisters & peoples belonging to all part of the world. WE NEED PEACE. WE NEED LOVE. THEN ALL WILL COME BY ITSELF DUE 2 GODS GRACE.
The original question, which triggered reactions by various people from different religious background, was to know why there are different religions in the world when there is only one God. It is a very basic question which haunts our mind. But, most of the answers that I read deviated from the central point.
It is very natural for us to be attached with our own values and religious backgrounds because we have inherited them. We take pride in what we have. And here is my answer based on my understanding of my Hindu religion. Whatever knowledge I have gained over the past several years is mainly through reading of Praphupad’s books. He was one of the greatest Vaishanavs who loved Krishna dearly.
Lord Krishna revealed his identity to Arjuna as the Absolute Truth. Krishna clearly explained to us the concept of one God. He is the origin, the creator and proprietor of everything. He is the source. He gave us options not mandates to choose various religious paths. Krishna also introduced true secularism which I am not aware if exists in other religions. Krishna clearly stated in Bhagvad Gita that all gods and goddesses depend on Him. Despite of that He did not force us to worship Him only. Krishna said as many rivers ultimately reach the same ocean similarly people of all religious backgrounds ultimately reach Me.
He also gave the direct path to reach Him and it can be practically seen in the daily lives of Krishna’s devotees. They do not eat meat (who would give it up in this world of Kali), No illicit sex ( no offense it is effecting all communities) No Gambling (it has become one of the most common past times of Kali), No intoxication (not even tea or coffee). I am a Hindu but even for me, it is hard to follow these rules. So I cannot call myself a Vashnava.
The purpose of the religion is not mass conversions or distributing identities to people. Its true purpose is to change the consciousness. Its purpose it to elevate our thinking so that we may realize things beyond our identities and gross bodies and attain higher consciousness and unite with Him by serving Him.
By the way Krishna was born more than 5000 years ago and Vashnavism is much older than that. Therefore, there is no doubt in my mind that Hinduism has influenced all major religions of this world. All the intellectuals accept the fact that Sanskrit has influenced all major languages of the world and Hinduism must have been the reason. The purpose of Krishna coming down on this earth plain was to teach us how to love Him and reach His Kingdom.
The symptoms of devotion are the same no matter what your religious background is. What are the symptoms: Gopis always absorbed their consciousness in Krishna, they fulfilled their duties and were always happy. Check yourself how devoted are you to your God. If your religion restricts you to learn about God and who He is, it is not doing any justice to you. There is no harm to learn from each other when the goal is the same.
Thanks,
Ajay
Radhe Radhe to all,
the thing that i would like to say is that instead of fighting among Islam , Hinduism or Christianity one should focus on the goal that we need to archive that is salvation or moksha which can be achieved only by bhakti that is devotion towards god. These religion are the medium by which be can attain salvation so instead of fighting we should focus on the teachings. No religion is greater or smaller they all are equal.
There are many muslium bhagats of shri krishna who had spend their entire life in the bhakti of shri thakurji. One of the example is Raskhan who was a great devotee of krishna and in his bhakti had written beutiful pads of shri thakurji.Krishna gave sakshatkar to raskhan. We should also not forget about Great King Akbar who was a great beliver of the teachings of meerabai and shri swani haridas.There are numerous such examples of muslium believes in krishna.
The ultimate goal of human life is to gain salvation but when we talk about bhakti margh we only want to be with god. AnanyaBhakti is by which we can find god ananyabhati is the condition when a devotee is so much in devotion that all the difference between the god and the bhakth vanishes………both the bhagat and bhagvan become equal…..this was the bhakti done by great bhagats like braj gopies, meerabai, shri surdas ,shri haridas .
To conclude i would like to say that weather i say allah, jesus ,krishna or any other names my prayers reaches to the same pesonality the supream is one.As said in ramcharitmanas that the god gives darshan to his devotees in the form he prays to him.
Love God ………:)
Radhe Radhe
That would be nice in a utopian world. Unfortunately others are quick to point out that ‘theirs is the only way’ and the rest of us will burn in hell.
And this is included within their scriptures.
Radhe Radhe
Why are you pointing fingers on others. Its their believe andone should respect those. I dont know what is written in their scripts but have strong believe that nothing wrong would be written in any scripts belonging to any religion. what religion teaches is love and humanity and it is we humans that take out different meanings from these scripts.
It is the same God who has created the entire univese an every creatures in this universe so who are we to differentiate amoung the creatures created by him.
I would like to ask a question from u that did krishna ever differentiated amoung a hindu or muslium bhakth.
It is we that differentiate not god .I would like to tell you an incident when Raskan went to the foothills of shri govardhan to take the darshan of shrinathji and the priest of the temple did not allowed as he was a muslium. Raskhan felt very sad and waited outside the temple and cried. Lord was not able to see the sufferings of his devotee and came outside the temple to give darshan to his bhakth raskhan.
Saints like meerabai,surdas,tulsidas,narsimehta,kanakdas,rskhan,haridas,tukaram are the pillars of bhakti sampradaye and we should learn from their teachings how to love god and his creation.
Radhe Radhe
Radhe Radhe
Plz let us know what ISKON does for widows in vridavan and the sufferings faced by them.
Hare Krishna Saurabh
Widows in Vrindavan are very fortunate and are not suffering very much. In Vrindavan everyone is engaged in feeding and clothing and housing the widows in Vrindavan so their situation is quite nice really. They are not suffering. They are worshiping Krishna. They are engaged in seva and bhajan and they celebrated all the festivals glorifying the pastimes of Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
In Vrindavan life is not very difficult. Everyone finds somewhere to live and there are over 5,000 temples and every temple is distributing prasadam so everyone is getting nice prasadam and has full facility to worship Krishna…
So the widows in Vrindavan are very fortunate indeed…
As far as ISKCON, they are feeding the widows in Vrindavan like every other temple in Vrindavan is feeding the widows in Vrindavan…
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
Dear Madhudvisa Dasa
Radhe Radhe
I myself being a brajwasi am aware of the conditions and the hardships that widows in vrindavan go through. Do you think that giving food and clothes is enough for living what about the emotional support. I am very sorry to say that no Organizations or Temples give the proper treatment to widows there. The temples and NGO get huge donations from the devotees but i dont feel that those donations are utilized in the way which krishna would feel happy about.
Being a brajwasi i know what krishna is and his teachings are .I am extermly sorry about the hardships that widws in vrindavan go through.Even supremecourt investigations proofs the sufferings of these widows.These widows dont even recive a proper barrier ceremony after their death. This is the truth in Vrindavan the land of my god shri thakurji. According to me giving food and clothes is not he only solution these widows should be treated witht care and respect as the are the beloved of shri takurji. So i would like to request everyone to please help me in making vrindavan as it was during the time of kanha.
Radhe Radhe
Hare Krishna Saurabh
The problem is Vrindavan is now full of materialists, not devotees. So everything there is becoming very, very degraded and the real Vrindavan, the spiritual world, is being buried under the ever-expanding materialism. The only way to bring Vrindvan back to the way it was when Krishna was present is to make the residents of Vrindavan Krishna conscious again.
As far as the widows of Vrindavan really they are the most fortunate women in the world.
You can not do anything worthwhile unless you become a pure devotee of Krishna first. That is the only way you will have any potency to do anything to help anyone so first help yourself by becoming a pure devotee of Krishna yourself and then you will be able to see things clearly and you will understand how you can help and you will understand what Krishna wants you to do which is the actual point. Our business is to surrender to Krishna and serve Krishna. To find out what Krishna wants us to do and then to do that for Krishna.
And how to find out what Krishna wants you to do. You need a bona fide spiritual master and you have to surrender to him and serve him and he can instruct you how to serve Krishna. Srila Prabhupada is such a bona fide spiritual master. Please read his books and chant at least 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra daily and strictly follow the four regulative principles: no illicit sex, no meat eating, no gambling and no intoxication. Until you are very firmly fixed in Krishna consciousness you can not understand what should be done, what Krishna wants you to do, so you can not help anyone.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
Radhe Radhe
Dear Madhudvisa dasa
I still did not got my answer regarding the condition of widows sufferring in vrindavan.You said that vrindavan is full of materialists,I dont undestand ho can u be so judgemental and calling the brijwasi materialists,they are the one whom krishna loves and its the fact no one can change it. The brigwasis love for krishna is unconditional and u are calling them materialists.
plz dont make false comments by saying the wisows in vrindavan are the most fortunate women in the world and have u ever gone to them to enquire about their fortune or misfortune.Do u actully feel the pain they are going through.
And who are u to tell me that i cant do anything for them.I would rather prefer to be a true Human Being than becoming a fake devotee
And I dont know how can u tell weather a devotee is a pure devotee or not who are u to tell god never discriminates between his devotees and how can u do it so easily. You had never seen me so how can u say that weather i am a pure devotee or not .
Mind u that vrindavan is not filled with materialists, instead there are some commercial temples that are full with materialistic things.
Radhe Radhe
Hare Krishna Prabhu
Vrindavan is the spiritual world and it is only visable to pure devotees. You can not enter Vrindavan simply by purchasing a ticket to Vrindavan and traveling there on the train or bus or airplane. Without the pure consciousness one can not enter into Vrindavan. So those who have actually entered into Vrindvan, of course they are pure devotees, and they are in Vrindavan, and they are there with Krishna.
Certainly the widows in Vrindavan are the most fortunate women in the world. They are living in Vrindavan, that is the best place to live, it is not in the material world, it is in the spiritual world, they have the chance there to engage in pure devotional service. They are there in Vrindvan with Krishna.
If you saw the gopis you would be making the same complaints. The gopis appeared to be in a much worse condition than today’s widows in Vrindavan.
Actually over the past 10 years I have been living in Vrindavan for at lest half of that time. And I know that many of the residents of Vrindavan are actually residents of Vrindavan. But Prabhu it is becoming more and more full with materialists. And the real spiritual Vrindavan, at least from our mundane vision, is being burred under all this materialism.
I have been visiting Vrindavan now since 1986, that is over twenty-five years now, and it has transformed from a quiet village where the only people who went there were sadhus and devotees and the only people who lived there were sadhus and devotees to today’s ‘Vrindavan’ where there are now mundane colleges and universities teaching technology and engineering and it is really becoming just an extension of Delhi. It is becoming more and more like Delhi as the days go by and after some time everything will be burred under this modern ‘up-to-date’ materialistic city.
Of course Vrindavan will always be there. Actually Vrindavan is anywhere there is a pure devotee of Krishna engaged in pure devotional service. Such a pure devotee can create Vrindvan anywhere. Vrindavan is a state of mind, it is a consciousness, it is not a place actually.
Of course the Vrindavan in India is the actual place where Krishna appeared and performed His pastimes 5000 years ago, but you probably know that was lost and 500 years ago when Lord Caitanya was preaching he rediscovered the places of Krishna’s pastimes at Vrindavan. Before 500 years there was no Vrindavan, no one was living there, Radha-Kunda and Shama-Kunda were just two puddles in some fields… Everything had been forgotten, everything had been lost. That is the way of time, in time everything is lost and everything is forgotten. So that is happening in Vrindavan now. It is becoming completely full of materalistic people whose aim in life is not at all surrender to Krishna and serving Krishna, they have so many material aspirations. That is not Vrindavan.
Of course many of the widows in Vrindavan are actually very pure devotees of Krishna and they are actually in Vrindavan and they are the most fortunate women in the world.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
Hinduism as a religion is open source.
Whatever works for people. But the basic premise is the same Karma will affect you .
In the Geeta, we are told that those who worship the ancestors, will go to the ancestors, those who worship the. Elements Will. Go to the elements. Therefore those who worship Jesus, Shiva, Allah etc will indeed go to one of those. God will give you what you seek. And those who worship Krsna will go to him.
Therefore the devotees at the numerous temples are not wring. Afterall none of us has the monopoly on God. And no one should be. Claiming theirs is the true path and the rest of us will burn in hell.
Thing is we Hindus never force anyone that Hinduism is the only way of life and if you don’t follow Hinduism you will burn in hell!!
Its Christians and Muslims that claim such nonsense and force people to follow it in Muslim dominated areas !!
Radhe Radhe
I dont understand why you guys make god a fearing element god loves us its all and expects love in behalf .Weater its Allaha,Jesus or Krishna every thing is one there is no need to prove which religion is right or wrong.
When we talk of satya sanatan dharam we say that the basic principle of this dharam is to give respect to all other belives.
One should love krishna not be afraid of him .We should alwas try to devlop the gopi bhav in us and love god without any expectations or deamands.
Radhe Radhe
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing as the saying goes. I suggest you read their scriptures before deciding. We are happy for everyone to follow their own path to God. However, we have to draw the line with people who say ‘mine is the only way, and you will burn in hell for your false religion.’
Radhe Radhe
It may be true that i have not gone through their scripts and what is written in it but i strongly believe that god is one weather its Jesus Allaha or Krishna.Its diferent names for one .