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Published on March 20th, 2022 | by HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada | Full size image

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Third World War?

You are killing innocent cows and other animals–nature will take revenge. Just wait. As soon as the time is right, nature will gather all these rascals and slaughter them. Finished. They’ll fight amongst themselves–Protestants and Catholics, Russia and America, this one and that one. It is going on. Why? That is nature’s law. Tit for tat. You have killed. Now you kill yourselves. (JSD 6.5)

The demoniac are engaged in activities that will lead the world to destruction. The Lord states here that they are less intelligent. The materialists, who have no concept of God, think that they are advancing. But, according to Bhagavad-gita, they are unintelligent and devoid of all sense. They try to enjoy this material world to the utmost limit and therefore always engage in inventing something for sense gratification. Such materialistic inventions are considered to be advancement of human civilization, but the result is that people grow more and more violent and more and more cruel, cruel to animals and cruel to other human beings. They have no idea how to behave toward one another. Animal killing is very prominent amongst demoniac people. Such people are considered the enemies of the world because ultimately they will invent or create something which will bring destruction to all. Indirectly, this verse anticipates the invention of nuclear weapons, of which the whole world today is very proud. At any moment war may take place, and these atomic weapons may create havoc. Such things are created solely for the destruction of the world, and this is indicated here. Due to godlessness, such weapons are invented in human society; they are not meant for the peace and prosperity of the world. (Bg 16.9)

We find in modern warfare that attacks are made upon innocent citizens who are without fault. According to the law of Manu, such warfare is a most sinful activity. Furthermore, at the present moment civilized nations are unnecessarily maintaining many slaughterhouses for killing innocent animals. When a nation is attacked by its enemies, the wholesale slaughter of the citizens should be taken as a reaction to their own sinful activities. That is nature’s law. (SB 4.11.7)

Sometimes Kali becomes so infuriated that she indiscriminately kills all kinds of asuras. There is a popular picture of goddess Kali in which she wears a garland composed of the heads of the asuras and holds in her left hand a captured head and in her right hand a great khadga, or chopper, for killing asuras. Great wars are symbolic representations of Kali’s devastation of the asuras and are actually conducted by the goddess Kali. (SB 4.24.18)

In this age of Kali the propensity for mercy is almost nil. Consequently there is always fighting and wars between men and nations. Men do not understand that because they unrestrictedly kill so many animals, they also must be slaughtered like animals in big wars. This is very much evident in the Western countries. In the West, slaughterhouses are maintained without restriction, and therefore every fifth or tenth year there is a big war in which countless people are slaughtered even more cruelly than the animals. Sometimes during war, soldiers keep their enemies in concentration camps and kill them in very cruel ways. These are reactions brought about by unrestricted animal-killing in the slaughterhouse and by hunters in the forest. Proud, demoniac persons do not know the laws of nature, or the laws of God. Consequently, they unrestrictedly kill poor animals, not caring for them at all. This Krsna consciousness movement is the only means by which the sinful activities of men in this Kali-yuga can be counteracted. (SB 4.26.5)

You are trying to develop yourselves, so please develop spiritually, for spiritual development is sound development. Don’t imitate the Americans and Europeans, who are living like cats and dogs. Such civilizations built on the consciousness of sense gratification cannot stand. The atomic bomb is already there, and as soon as the next war breaks out, all their skyscrapers and everything else will be finished. (SSR 7)

We don’t want to stop trade or the production of grains and vegetables and fruit. But we want to stop these killing houses. It is very, very sinful. That is why all over the world they have so many wars. Every ten or fifteen years there is a big war–a wholesale slaughterhouse for humankind. But these rascals–they do not see it, that by the law of karma, every action must have its reaction. (JSD 6.5)

Arjuna enquired, “Who are You, Sir?” He replied, kalo ‘smi: “I am kala, kala. I have appeared to take away all these sinful demons.” So Krsna appears still in form of war, big gigantic war, and takes away so many millions of people by one stroke. This is going on. (750707SB.CHI)

The history of the West beginning from the time of the Greeks and the Romans down to the modern age of atomic war–is a continuous chain of sense gratificatory materialism and the result is that the westerners were never in peace within the memory of 3000 years of historical records. Neither it will be possible for them at any time in future to live in peace till the message of spiritualism just suitable to the present age does not reach their heart. (58-08-04 Letter: Jawaharlal Nehru)

You have asked about whether nuclear devastation on this planet would effect the Sankirtana Movement. No, there is nothing that can stop the Sankirtana Movement because it is the will of God Himself, Lord Caitanya, that His Holy Name be heard in every town and village. Neither can the demons devastate this planet independent of the will of Krsna. Nothing happens without His sanction. If Krsna wants to kill someone no one can save Him, and if Krsna wants to save someone no one can kill him. For our parts we should just be determined to carry out our mission against all opposition, demons, nuclear war, whatever. The whole universe is finally subject to certain annihilation by the will of Krsna, but devotional service is eternal and is the only certain way one can save himself from devastation. We can preach all over the world that the only way to be saved from collective and individual devastation is to take to the chanting of Hare Krsna. In short, this material world is a very precarious place therefore we should always chant Hare Krsna and seek Krsna’s protection. (73-06-22.Mak)

Do not worry, in spite of war, Srimad-Bhagavatam will be distributed. We don’t care for war. Our preaching business will go on. (75-08-21.Rad)

Yogesvara: Is such an atomic war foretold in Bhag…
Prabhupada: Yes. Next war means atomic war. All these rascals will be killed automatically. I will kill you, you’ll kill me. That’s all. The atomic bombs. They are meant for creating disaster, that’s all. What else they can do? And now everyone is having atomic weapon, just like India has now got. That means they are preparing, by nature’s course they are preparing for war, and “I put my atomic bomb on your head, and you put on my head. You die, I die, that’s all.” They simply die. Now what was the result of the disastrous war twice? The whole European nations ruined. They are not no more rich. I saw in Paris, in Germany. They are not as rich as the Americans. Because American inland, there was no such big war, so their opulence is existing, but on account of these two wars, British completely finished. Yes. British completely. It is now… Hitler wanted that “I shall again make these English people a fisherman’s island. They have to take their business to fishing only.” (laughter) That was Hitler’s declaration.

Now the nuclear war means it will not continue very long. The first party who will drop the bomb on the other party, he will be victorious, and immediately the war will stop. They are simply arranging how to drop the atom bomb first. So one who will be able to drop the bomb first, he will be victorious. It doesn’t require long time. Just like in Japan, as soon as the Americans dropped the atom bomb in Hiroshima, immediately they surrendered. This will be the result. Now the question is who will be able to drop the bomb first. (750616mw.hon)

So Krsna arranged: “All right, you come together and finish yourselves.” So this arrangement will be done that all atomic bomb will come in warfield–one, next, third war, finished. All these, all these demons will be finished. That is not ksatriya. This is demonic. Ksatriyas’ business is to see that the four orders of life are maintained properly, not increasing military strength only, overburdened. Everyone is spending 75% of the revenue for military. Huh? Paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam. So they are demons. Why so much money should be spent for military? They are not ksatriyas. They are not ksatriyas. They are demons. So demons… As soon as there will be number of demons increased, there will be war and finish all. (770214r2.may)

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33 Responses to Third World War?

  1. Atul says:

    Not yet! There is a possibility. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen.

    • Seven says:

      These rascals and idiots are lying too much with this bogus pandemic and injecting people with lethal shots that kill over time. Their sinful activites have no limit nowadays children are getting their genitals chopped in west and injected with hormones. Homosexuals are practically worshipped. These rascals have made a laughing stock of god’s order. A nuke or two is certainly something we all deserve. Only we can save individually ourselves according to our progression in kc

  2. Prateek says:

    Happening now in 2022 !

  3. Derek Wildman says:

    Srila Prabhupada’s statements about nuclear war sounded very deterministic. It will definitely happen. It cannot be avoided.He made a lot of these statements.We would need to get a lot of Krsnas causeless mercy even to delay a nuclear war.
    Does Vedic astrology allow us to be more specific about when and how nuclear war will happen. One needs to keep to objective Vedic astrology.

    • Hare Krishna Derek

      Yes, it is the nature of the demons that if they make something disastrous like nuclear bombs they will use them. There will be disaster of course, that is the way of the material world, one disaster after another. So it is like that. A place of miseries full of death. We have to expect that. And just keep on chanting Hare Krishna and reading and distributing Prabhupada’s books.

      The idea is to become Krishna conscious and get out of this miserable place, go back home back to Godhead, not to try to make this miserable material world into a happy place. That is not possible.

      We do not care if there is nuclear war or not. If the bombs come we will be chanting Hare Krishna and then change bodies and take birth again or hopefully go back home back to Godhead. So death is not the end. It is just a change of body. So we are here and we have to do our service. Chant Hare Krishna, preach, distribute Srila Prabhupada’s books, try to enlighten the conditioned souls. But if the bombs come and we have to change bodies so be it.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      • Derek Wildman says:

        Kashmir might cause a nuclear war between India and Pakistan. Nehru invaded Kashmir, Goa, Tamil Nadhu, and many other princeling states.These were independent, princeling states before Nehru invaded. Nehru and the caste Brahmanas were demons. Mahatma Ghandi wanted to unite all Indians. Nehru and the caste Brahmanas wanted to marginalise the Moslems, the Sikhs, the Christians and the Harijans. Nehru was the demon.

        • Kamal says:

          You just don’t know any thing about M K Gandhi. Just read about what experiments with young girls he was doing in the name of brahmacharya. He used to sleep with young girls fully naked daily and tell others that he is testing his brahmacharya.

      • Derek Wildman says:

        Saturn opposition North Node/Rahu. Pluto conjunction Saturn. Jupiter conjunction South Node/Ketu. The astrology since 2020 has been heavy. Vedic astrology is not rigidly deterministic. It can always go either way at every step. Vedic astrology, sidereal Aries, Taurus, Gemini, etcetera, is part of the MahaYuga Vedic dating system. Its very good as a zodiac dating calendar. Its more difficult to use these aspects as an oracle. One can only vaguely predict the future. I have looked at a Vedic ephemeris since 1900 on the internet.

        • Yes. Astrology is a science, a Vedic science. It is real. But one has to be an expert astrologer to understand and interpret it. It is not so simple as just looking at the current situation of the planets, etc. Because these things have to be compared to the birth charts of the persons you are trying to understand the influence of the stars on.

          Astrology is like the winds. There can be a strong wind blowing in the Northern direction, but you can fight it and go South. But you will still feel that strong Northerly wind. So the astrological influences are there but we don’t have to go with them.

          For devotees astrology is irrelevant. For actual devotees, surrendered to Krishna, Krishna adjusts everything.

          But for general people, the astrological influences are very very real. But the actual influence of the same astrological constellations, it acts differently on every person, depending on the relationships of the current positions of the planets with the positions of the planets in the persons birth chart.

          So just looking at the positions of the planets, it is a very superficial thing, because for any real information an actual trained experienced astrologer is required to compare current situation with birth chart situation…

          Generally, these days, actual qualified astrologers are not available, and anyhow it is irrelevant for devotees and in any case you really can’t do anything about it… so…

          Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

          Madhudvisa dasa

    • Derek Wildman says:

      Its very dangerous with Putin and Kashmir just now. Astrology is still a bit fluid. Saturn opposition North Node/Rahu.Pluto conjunction Saturn. Jupiter conjunction South Node/Ketu. This has been heavy since 2020

      • Seven says:

        Putin? The same if not bigger demons sit in west they’ve destroyed and bombed and killed countless innocents in middle East. They and their followers will suffer relentlessly in hell unless they take up Krishna consciousness seriously somehow

  4. Derek Wildman says:

    Does Vedic astrology allow us to be more specific about when and how nuclear war will happen. One needs to keep to objective Vedic astrology.

    • We don’t need to bother with Vedic astrology or nuclear war. These are things of the material world. We are not interested in the material world. We are interested in Krishna, chanting Hare Krishna, dancing and feasting on Krishna prasadam.

      So it doesn’t matter to us, if there is nuclear war we will chant Hare Krishna as they drop the bombs. And we will continue our kirtan in our next bodies…

      Of course if we seriously chant Hare Krishna all over the world that will create an atmosphere on the earth where there will be no nuclear war.

      So we don’t care actually what happens in the material world, we care about chanting Hare Krishna and helping the conditioned souls in the material world uplift their consciousness to Krishna consciousness so they can transcend this material world and go back home, back to Godhead…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      • Derek Wildman says:

        Vedic astrology plus the Precession of the Equinoxes is central to Hinduism. Its the Hindu dating system. One can use it as an oracle. Or, one can use it as the Hindu dating system. Its not sense gratification. There is a whole cultural context to Hinduism, correctly understood. You can still learn a lot from the caste Brahmanas. They always keep strictly to what is written in the Vedas. They have grown up with Hindu culture for thousands of generations. American devotees are newcomers.

  5. sheetal says:

    Respected ,

    Since distributing prasaran would be good during world war 3, I still don’t understand the usage of prasad….I don’t know what it actually does? Can madhudvisa dasa sir elaborate on this please….I want to know!!

    A person still struggling with maya

    • Prasadam is Krishna. So honoring prasadam is association with Krishna. Like the Hare Krishna maha-mantra is Krishna. So by chanting the Hare Krishna maha mantra we are associating with Krishna. An by association we develop the qualities of the people we associate with. So if we associate with Krishna we develop all the good qualities, and become Krishna conscious…

      • Sheetal says:

        That seems logical😏😏 one more thing….How do we know that krishna has accepted our foodstuff and he has eaten it…. srila prabhupada said that the taste would be different. I know that taste but problem is a person like me who is just starting with deity worship will do offences in the beginning. I have gaura nitai and srila prabhupada whom I will start worshipping. For now I am only chanting and reading srimad bhagavatam and listen to srila prabhupada’s lectures . I have a deity worship manual, not the iskcon one but the one I bought from krishna store but I don’t know where to begin with. I will definitely do something wrong so when will krishna accept the foodstuff I prepare for him? It might be a silly question but I just wanted to know, if u can provide me with an answer.

        • Hare Krishna Sheetal

          Actually we do not offer anything directly to Krishna. We offer everything to Srila Prabhupada and Srila Prabhupada offers it to his spiritual master and in this way, through the disciplic succession, the offering will go to Krishna.

          So Srila Prabhupada is very merciful. If you prepared the foodstuffs very nicely and offer them with love Srila Prabhupada will accept them and Krishna will be very happy to accept them from Srila Prabhupada.

          And you will notice the different taste of the Krishna Prasadam you have offered like this and it will very quickly clear up your consciousness and help you make rapid advancement in Krishna consciousness.

          So just do everything as perfectly as you can. There will be imperfections for sure. That is the nature of this age of Kali. But as long as everything you do is accompanied by kirtan, by the chanting of:

          Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
          Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

          That will purify all the imperfections and make everything perfect.

          Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

          Madhudvisa dasa

  6. Pranjal Jain says:

    Did GOD want humans to eat animals?

    • No. God would like to see us all happy. And the only way we can be happy is by serving Krishna. But Krishna gives us a little independence. So we can choose if we want to serve Krishna or reject Krishna. So because some want to eat animals then Krishna provides the facility. We have two canine teeth in the human mouth. So there is some facility for eating animals, although human digestive system can not digest meat properly, so we are not meant to eat animals. But if people want to then Krishna provides them with some facility.

      The point is this material world is created to give us the illusion of independence, the illusion we can be separate from serving Krishna.

      So the point is we can reject what Krishna wants and eat animals and we will have to suffer the reactions to this and that is war and famine and so many other horrible things…

  7. pps says:

    Like west&east german became one german all countrymen chat hare krishna
    Gauranga nithyananda
    Jai srila prabhupad

  8. sundeep says:

    hare krishna prabhu. .

    i understood the concept of soul but i dont understand why these souls are created!!?

    • Hare Krishna Sundeep

      Souls are not created Prabhu. The souls have the same nature as Krishna. As Krishna has no beginning and no end, as Krishna is eternal and is never born and never dies, the souls are the same as Krishna. The difference between the individual spirit souls and Krishna is one of magnitude only. Krishna is unlimitedly great and we, the living entities are unlimitedly small. But the quality is the same. So there is no creation of the souls. They are eternal, ever-existing.

      Of course it is sometimes said that the souls are expansions of Krishna. So ultimately Krishna is sarva-karana-karanam, the cause of all causes.

      The reality is for us with our limited ability to comprehend things because we are born in the material world and conditioned by the way things work in the material world it is sometimes difficult or impossible for us to actually comprehend the very minute details of such spiritual subject matters. And it may seem to us that there are some contradictory things. But there is no contradiction. There is an inability for our material minds to comprehend spiritual subject matters.

      So do not become too bogged down with these things. Just chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  9. Khrishna prasad says:

    Yeh, I belong to Sanathana Dharma – Sree Vaishnava.(I have to belong to some way of life) Having some gist of Bhagvatam, Bhagvad Gita, Epics and daily Karmas.

    War is created because of fear of one comunity over others as its happening now. World doesnt want Islamic Atomic bomb, US doesnt want Iraq to have Atomic bomb, US doesnt want N.Korea to have Atomic bomb, China does not want india to prosper and conversly also true, Pakistan fear Indfia will attack and conversly also true. My enemies enemy is my friend concept is still going on. How silly its all about. There is UNO, with well qualified people from all around. But of no avail.

    Russia occupied afghanistan for some reason and US intensified its support to pakistan and finally Russians and US were fighting in that region creating new professional killers. Whe peace was brought in – where will all those Taliban or Mujahidens who only knew fighting will go. So viloence and war even if it is nationally sponsored will leave behind demonic remants in people. The uS and USSR war was purely to claim superiority one on the others.

    How silly its all about. Pakistan should have stood neutral, but they never did. How pakistan can stand neutral when they feared with India.

    Hitlers deputy kept Bhagvad Gita in his arm pit and executed thousands of innocent jews. Mis understood concepts of Bhagwad Gita by Nazis. Where as India never in its time dis so and remained secular since many years, whilst India is home of Bhagwad Gita.

    The same thing is happening with Koran and Jehadi exploits by Ultra muslims. They want some reasons to believe waht they are doing is right.

    We live in a civilised society. If I am killed by any ultras either by Nazi or muslim – (let me consider that there is only one life for me), the people effected are those depending on me.

    The politics have become so provocative and international peace bodies are not able to hols or function to bring lasting peace.

    Yes a spiritual revolution by all God loving relegions should recognise this problem and root out of power such law makers in each country.

    Now something like Mahabharatha war is in coocking in the same region.

    But why its happening. May be we have to believe Karma balances and sins we have comitted on each other.

    Some amount of spiritual restraints are required. And people should behave secular. Other wise Darvins theory fits in to Humans – survivor of fittest.

    First of all this fear psychosis should go away. Even a snake bites a human out of fear. Animals attack out of fear. And to be evry frank with you, in todays world a man can live with a lion more safely than with another man.

    Every relegion and sects should think like how harmony can be brought in. We are also fighting like high school boys fighting. But after the war is over,the remants like Bolly wood and Holly wood will make a hit movie like slum dog millionaire.

    Population explosion in India – it was a race for Hindus and Muslims to produce more children again its also another fear.

    So Fear is the key.

    How shamefull its all about.

    So God should decend from his spiritual world to this material world to correct, thats take out the bad boy and put a good boy.

    DEmocratic system of selecting leaders and law makers – in this money grabibing and money craving people – democracy is a tall talk for greediness.

    Having King is better now.

    Khrishna.

    • Derek Wildman says:

      India should withdraw from Kashmir. Its India who is keeping it going, not Pakistan. The caste Brahmanas know a lot. They should have backed Mahatma Ghandi, not Nehru. There should be a peace process between India and Pakistan. But the BJP are keeping it going. Pakistan only wants peace with justice.

      • Sheetal verma says:

        Oh really???
        Are you even an indian?
        No. According to the treaty in Kashmir’s land belongs to us, we can’t break our promises to the former king of jammu and kashmir. Also, pakistan wants kashmir because of water issues and to make it a nice brothel for terrorists.
        India has done enough of peace talks. They are demons and actual rakshasas. I am sure u r not an indian so u won’t know the situation. They even took gilgit baltistan with them. British gave it to india. If we had gilgit
        Baltistan with us, we would have been able to spread krishna consciousness o that region and it would have benefitted some people if not all.
        Pakistan should stop going after kashmir, they should first look at their flunking economy, indians are also sinful…Okay….But Pakistanis are way more sinful. So don’t talk about who should stop it, talk about the possibilities that were cut down by islamic radicalization.

        • Derek Wildman says:

          The caste system in India is the ultimate problem. Outcaste Indians converted to ISLAM, Buddism, other religions because they were being exploited by Caste Brahmanas and the caste system. Nehru invaded Kashmir. Kashmir has a 100% Moslem population,which does not want Indian rule. Mahatma Ghandi wanted to help Moslems, Harijans and Sikhs. Nehru and the caste brahmanas wanted to marginalise the Moslems and the Sikhs from power. There can never be a true peace process between India and Pakistan until India withdraws from Kashmir. Nehru invaded a lot of princeling states. Ask any Pakistani.

          • Sheetal says:

            I dont know which country u belong to but your idea on pakistan itself is wrong. Hindus (bhramins, kshatriyas, vaishyas and shudras) didnt want to make a separate land of pakistan for muslims. This was a plan of the US. US and UK planned this strategy to keep India and pakistan as vassal states of the US whom they can use against Russia. To counter, Russia invested billionS in spreading communism in India and it failed. Democracy in India today is somewhat similar to european democracy but the Idea was actually taken from monarchical democratic dynasty of the emperor ashoka, the mauryan dynasty.

            Now your knowledge regarding kashmir is really degraded. First of all, kashmir as a land and its people are essentially aryans and werent outcastes. Muslims in our country werent outcastes, they mostly belonged to the shudra class, mayavadis wouldnt let other castes study vedic scriptures because the inherited traits dont go away until unless u r very serious. Therefore they are converted muslims and not muslims because they were trying to understand god. Why? Because Bhramin, kshatriya, vaishya and shudra together form an aryan society. Mlechcha, chandala and yavana are considered lowest and non aryans, casteless or outcastes.

            Shudras also knew how sinful it is to kill cows so they never accepted islam but were forcefully converted. For about 800 yrs under mughal invasion, there were no slaughterhouses (except inside the persian palaces) until the british came who first set up “legal” slaughterhouses because of which the first hindu muslim riots took place in India , 1800’s.

            So my friend, its not just kashmir, the entire pakistan belongs to us. All these lands were divided and so many hotspots were created by the democrats of the US to be used as leverages against Russia. Russia is not that different though. They r barbarians too. Therefore, dont comment on our history, shudras arent outcastes. Mlechcha, chandala and yavanas are outcastes and non aryans which are present day europeans, middle easterners (including afghanistan) and the rest of asia except for south asia but mlechchas can be seen in indian subcontinent too.

            Your version of the story is pretty cooked up and u obviously belong to a leftist sort of group. Nonetheless, Srila prabhupada has mentioned about this because he as an Indian knew it too after all he was alive during the partition.

            I didnt make the rules, I didnt write the veda. I am just saying ur knowledge on vedic culture is horrible and also of India. Dont impose your crappy white scholar history here. Kashmiris by right, are considered (especially the kashmiri pandits) as direct descendant of the sage kashyapa. So kashmiris were actually forcefully converted. Not all bhramins think the same. Use some commonsense. This was due to some bhramins in the royal courts who forbade many to read veda. That was just in kashmir. All kashmiri pandits are not resonsible for the deeds of a few. Also, nehru was a demon, yes. Nehru did one thing right, under the orders of sardar vallabhai patel he made sure the entire vedic land comes together, otherwise he wouldnt have become PM again, he did it for his own greed as nobody respected him within the party. Srilankans wanted to be separate due to the british. So stop abusing, even if kashmiri muslims dont wanna live fine but the land belongs to us, of kashmir, gilgit baltistan, pakistan and afghanistan and we will reconstruct all our vaishnav temples there. By right, the entire earth belongs to us but I am saying with respect to last 1500 yrs. Deities are consecrated, its not a joke so krishna’s energy is still there and we will get it back, all that the invaders destroyed , the land belongs to us. Anyway, in the future, I dont think hindus will accept afghanis, pakis, kashmiri muslims as aryans because they fell from their ancestral position. They will be respected for coming back but wont be given the same status. I am just talking about the strict rules made by some saints. Marriages wont happen. Not my opinions though. Bloodlines are very important for hindus in general because many do marry foreigners but thats a minority as compared to 1 billion hindu population in India.

            If u dont know, afghani bhramins who came as refugees 1000 yrs back are waiting for India to conquer afghainstan so that they can re establish the vedic dharma and are mostly vasihnav bhramin, atleast the ones I met. If u ask them they will tell u the same thing. Thankfully invasions happened because this mayavadi bhramanism was detrimemtal to krishna consciousness. Now it doesnt exist really.

            So u r right about somethings but not exactly because u dont know stories that werent talked by SP about Indian history. Did he know? Obviously he knew but I believe what he didnt have was the time. SP hasnt talked about everything regarding Indian history and I am sorry but India will never withdraw, make ur american spies withdraw from pakistan and kashmir first and then we will take it back. The land belongs to us as it was since mahabharat. So your suggestions are just horrible and speaks of cowardice.

            Indians were minding there own business, invaders came for money under the guise of religion and business men, then came US with UK parted India to use it against rusiia int he name of islam. In this conspiracy, neither the hindus (especially bhramins) nor muslims were involved. Muslims were brainwashed in the name of islam by apologists. US caused it, India doesnt need to withdraw because its ours. Thats like a thief asking the right to steal int he name of religion or whatever.

          • Derek Wildman says:

            It would be best if India and the Indian army withdrew from Kashmir. Then you can get a true peace process in Kashmir. Louis Mountbatten was very incompetent at handling the situation. We British are a lot to blame for the partition of India in 1947. You cannot relate Hindu fundamentalism to modern Indian/ Pakistani politics. This is the Kali Yuga. Just chant Hare Krishna. The caste system does not work in the Kali Yuga, as you can see from modern India.

          • Kamal says:

            Derek Widman, just by reading your comments anyone can understand your anti-bharat bhumi mentality. And, it can be also well understood that you are on this platform only to spread Hinduphobia, break bharat bhumi into islamic states and finally to completely destroy vedic culture and stop the spread of krishan consciousness.
            Before commenting anything nonsense just do some authentic research with an open mind and don’t get brain washed by any islamic propaganda.

          • Hare Krishna Kamal. Today’s Hinduism has been defended in a way that is completely in contradiction to the Vedas. So in fact today’s Hinduism has already destroyed Vedic culture. If you think that what is going on in India today as Hinduism is Vedic culture you are mistaken. Please read Srila Prabhupada’s books to understand what Vedic culture actually is and then you will be able to see today’s Hinduism has very little to do with Vedic culture at all.

          • Kamal says:

            Hare Krishna Madhudvisa Prabhu Ji.
            I am reading Srila Prabhupada’s books bought from your website krishnastore on a daily basis. I am indebted for you for this. I strongly agree with what you have commented. But, do you think what Derek Wildman commented “It would be best if India and the Indian army withdrew from Kashmir.” will bring back hinduism to it’s root of Bhagavat Dharma? It will only break Bharat Bhumi into Islamic states which will lead to complete destruction of whatever little traces of Bhagavat Dharma is currently present in Bharat Bhumi. I have already read how Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Srila Prabhupada glorified the importance of Bharat Bhumi. But, what Derek Wildman has commented multiple times is only meant for spreading rumours and anti-bhagavat propaganda.

          • Hare Krishna Kamal
            Indians, Hindus, they have already given up Bhagavata-dharma. It is already lost in India. The only hope for reestablishing Bhagavata-dharma lies with Srila Prabhupada and those who very seriously read his books and follow his instructions and it is very likely they will not be Indians.
            Although Lord Caitanya wants the Indians to do it, they are not doing it, He wants the Indians to spread it all over the world, but they have lost it in India. So what chance do they have of spreading it all over the world.
            So it is useless, this Hinduism. It has nothing to do with Bhagavata-dharma. India is already destroyed. The Hindus were able to do that themselves without any help from the Muslims.
            Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
            Madhudvisa dasa


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Founded the Hare Krishna Movement in 1966 in New York. In only 11 years he spread the movement all over the world. He wrote more than 80 books including Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Sri Isopanisad. Prabhupada's books constitute a complete library of Vedic philosophy, religion, literature and culture.


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