The Scientific Theory of the Soul
August 13, 2011 by Madhudvisa dasa
Filed under Science
The Soul Theory opens up a vast field for research and study based on the
scientific method. It opens up the areas of past-life-recall and out-of-body
experiences to rigorous scientific research and it also enables science to study
all manner of previously unexplained phoneme from a new angle.
THE SCIENTIFIC THEORY OF THE SOUL
INTRODUCTION
The intention of this paper is to put forward a scientific theory stated according to the currently accepted “scientific method” which provides a verifiable and falsifiable theory establishing the existence of an eternal spiritual particle present within every living entity. The symptom of the presence of the soul in a body is consciousness. This scientific theory makes predictions and can be tested experimentally.
DEFINITION OF THE “SOUL THEORY”
The “soul” is defined as a non-material, eternal spiritual entity present within any living being. The symptom of the presence of the soul within a body is consciousness. The soul continues to exist after the destruction of the body and it existed prior to the creation of the body. The material body develops, changes and produces by-products [offspring] because of the presence of the soul within. The material body deteriorates in due cause of time and when it is no longer a suitable residence for the soul it is forced to leave the body. This we call death.
IS THE “SOUL THEORY” RELIGIOUS
The “Soul Theory” stands completely on its own. It says nothing about the existence or nonexistent of God. Although most religious people accept the concept of something other than matter that continues to exist after death and caries the person on to another life there are also atheists who accept such an entity exists. In India there are both theistic and atheistic philosophies accepting the presence of the soul. It is a compelling and convincing explanation of many things we experience.
THE “SOUL THEORY” EXPLAINED
There exists, within this material universe, three types of energy: gross material, subtle material and spiritual. The gross material energy consists of earth, water, fire, air and ether [defined as the "space" within the universe]. The subtle material energy consists of mind, intelligence and false-ego [defined as the identification of the body as the self]. The spiritual energy consists of the soul [the individual living entities] and the supersoul
The presence of the soul in any living entity is indicated by consciousness. Although we cannot actually see the soul, we can see its symptoms. We cannot “see” electricity but when we see an illuminated light-globe we can see the symptom of the presence of electricity. Similarly when we see consciousness we see the symptom of the soul.
Any material body inhabited by a soul will undergo changes. It will be created, it will grow, it will produce by-products [offspring], it will dwindle and ultimately it will die.
DEFINITIONS OF TERMS USED
The Soul:
A spiritual particle present within any living entity whose presence causes the entire body to be pervaded by consciousness, the symptom of the soul. The soul is eternal, it has no birth and it never dies. The soul is the “person within the body”, or “the ghost in the machine”. At the time of “death” the soul leaves the body and is transferred to the womb of it’s next mother’s womb according to it’s accumulated “karma”.
Any material body inhabited by a soul will undergo changes. It will be created, it will grow, it will produce by-products [offspring], it will dwindle and ultimately it will die.
Karma:
Karma means literally “actions”. It is described by the physical law that each action has an equal and opposite reaction. This universal law is not limited to physical actions, it works for any action. If we commit violence against another the reactions generated and we must experience violence upon ourselves in the future. This “karma” or the reactions to our actions is not immediate. The karma is stored in our hearts and it will mature and fructify in due course. If at the time of death there are still karmic reactions stored within the heart which we have not yet experienced then we have to take birth again in the material world in a body suitable to enjoy and suffer the stored karma.
Ether:
The space within the universe.
False-Ego:
The “ego” is the identity of the soul. In reality the soul is a spiritual person possessing an eternal spiritual body full of knowledge and ever increasing bliss. However, because of misusing their independence the souls in the material world misidentify with the material body. They think, “I am an American man”, or “I am an Australian women”. But such identification is false. We are only temporarily in a particular body. It is for seventy or eight years only, then we have to change bodies again. Our next body may be completely different. There is no guarantee someone who now has an “American” body will be again born as an American. There is not even a guarantee of birth in the human form. One can take birth in any species of life. So this identification with the material body is “false ego”.
EXISTENCE PROOF
Life or consciousness is the symptom of the soul. There is no other explanation of consciousness available. No one has been able to show life, consciousness can be generated from matter. And there are many inconsistencies which cannot be explained within the present framework, without considering the existence of the soul. Although there are very clear indications that valid scientific data could be collected on areas such as out-of-body experiences and past-life-recall because the current scientific theories don’t accommodate the possibility these things could exist there has been very little real scientific study in these areas.
There is a large body of data relating to out-of-body experiences. Currently science cannot relate to or study this body of evidence as the current scientific view cannot accommodate the possibility of a “person” being able to leave their body and observe what is happening to their body from a different perspective. A large body of evidence is certainly there and it requires scientific study and the “Soul Theory” will enable this. Unless there are two separate entities, the body and the soul, out-of-body experiences would be impossible. But it seems they are not. This is compelling proof of the existence of the soul.
There are many verifiable accounts of “past life experiences”. This is another area currently outside the boundaries of science but it could be studied in terms of the “Soul Theory”. If there was no soul, no entity that continued from one life to the next, there could be no memory of “past lives”. Another strong proof of the existence of the soul.
EXPERIMENTAL PROOF FOR THE “SOUL THEORY”
The “Soul Theory” makes many predictions that can be experimentally tested and also one can propose experiments which, if successfully carried out, could disprove it. So it is a theory suitable fro study using the currently accepted “scientific method”.
- Predicts out of body experiences are possible
- Predicts past life recollection is possible
- Predicts “unembodied” souls are possible
- Predicts life cannot be produced from a combination of chemicals
“Unless there is a soul present within matter it will not go through the cycle of birth, growth, production of by-products, dwindling and death. This cycle is a symptom of the presence of the soul. The soul is placed within matter by other living entities and then develops.”
Proof: Analytically study all living entities and confirm that all living entities are caused, or born from “parents”, other living entities.
Falsify: Show life can be created from matter only [a chemical mixture of earth, water, fire, air and ether.] Then show the resulting combination of matter can exhibit the symptoms of life [growth, changing, production of by-products dwindling and vanishing.]
“The soul is placed within matter by another living entity then a material body is developed around the soul from matter.”
Proof: Analytically study living entities to confirm their source is another living entity.
Falsify: Show living entities can be produced by a combination of chemicals. The resulting living entities must be able to exhibit the symptoms of the presence of the soul, ie: consciousness, and undergo the transformations of growth, change, production of by-products [offspring], dwindling and death.
FUTURE WORK
The “Soul Theory” opens up a vast field for research and study based on the scientific method. It opens up the areas of past-life-recall and out-of-body experiences to rigorous scientific research and it also enables science to study all manner of previously unexplained phoneme from a new angle.
REFERENCES
The science of the soul is described in the Bhagavad-gita, the timeless jewel from the Indian Vedic texts. A full understanding can be gained from this source.
Extensive data and documentation is available in the areas of past-life-recall and out-of-body experiences which could form the basis of much scientific research work. The “Soul Theory” will also enable many rigorous scientific studies to be carried out in this area to produce more conclusive data and clarify the interactions of the soul and matter.
I think i have very good exempel of exsistance of soul and that is our felllings coming from a aeria where our hearts is plased .Like someboddy say “It’s so sad” and holding hand in the aeria of heart we fell from heart not from a brain .Like passion, sadnes ,happynes .Thats rewel both location and existance of soul.
What do you think, what the soul is?
There is no question of ‘think’. ‘Think’ is useless. Who cares what I think or what you think? It has no value at all.
I know what the soul is. And I know what the soul is because I have heard it from a bona fide authority. I have heard it from someone who knows.
The soul is the living entity. I am the spirit soul who has taken shelter within this material body. My material body is just like a set of clothes which covers my real self, and my real self is the spirit soul. I am the spirit soul. And it is by the direction and energy of the spirit soul in conjunction with the direction and energy of the Supersoul, Krishna, who is also present within my heart, that “I” am acting.
It is just like a motor car acts and moves under the direction of the intelligent person, the driver, who is controlling it. My material body is moving and acting only because I, the spirit soul, are present within it directing it and controlling it.
Just like the motor car can not move or act if there is no driver present in it if the soul is not present in my body my body is dead and lifeless.
There are two types of energy — material and spiritual. The soul belongs to the spiritual energy and is superior to and is capable of controlling and directing the material energy.
It is a big subject and can be discussed very extensively but I do not have the space or time to do that now. I think you get the idea…
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
THIS IS THE GREAT TOPIC SHARING ABOUT “SOUL”. I GOT A VERY GOOD INFORMATION REGARDING SCIENTIFIC SOULS CONDUCTED BY ISCON IN TIRUPATHI. THANKS& MY WISHES TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRMME. THANK YOU…………….
very good scientific proof
hey, i was thinking, does anyone think that there is a ‘energy’ inside are bodies, is the soul not just what you want to be? can the soul not be something that we use to describe what person we are?
My name is Jay Maheshwary.
I love KRISHNA one who gave cream eternal knowledge through “DIVINE BAGHWAT GEET” for MANAV KALYAN.
I have found after I read Geeta that I have been reincarnated in this world only for KRISHNA so I am born every age & die only for KRISHNA this is my inspiration for HIM ( The Lord Shri Krishna is really Supreme Personality of Godhead.
He is Allah, Baghwan, Eshwara, Jesus Christ or Absolute Truth for me.
I always remain in the imagination of Bhagwan Krishna.
I understand & believe that Geeta is the main source of all VEDAS & Upnishads of our Vedic Culture of thousands years of history which can never be denied. This is Universal reality.
b/rgds,
Jay.
There are explenations for consciousness. Just look into nuroscience. There reason why you are how you are (ie personality and morality)it is not because of a soul it is because you brain and only your brain.
And what time period was this writen 450 BCE the mattirials that make everything are not the four elements fire earth water and air. what does make everything are particles called atoms which combine to create moulicules and those combine to cereate everything.
pardon my spelling
If I talk about spirituality must to say feel vices of a pure soul from a living body. My knowledge about spirituality not sufficient to explore happiness in every moment. please guide me i have dream in a border sense………………
I am in the process of understanding this soul concept,life after death issue. Presently my impression is that inspite of great advances in science , it is still not in a position to give better insight than bagavad geeta/other religious texts regarding understanding universe, life processes. But at the same time we can not deny whatever science says it is on concrete ground, where as whatever the religious texts say it is based on blind faith. One question comes to my mind, if there is any person today who has reached the full realisation state spiritually he/she should be able to provide scientifically acceptable proof, if he/she can not then it will be dismissed as a make believe idea but not true.
In order for this to be presented as a science, it’ll have to under go the scientific process. In the very first sentence, the Soul is described as a “non-material” object which is a paradox unto itself. An object is something composed of matter, and non-material is the lack of matter. In short, considering a non-material idea as science makes it impossible to record, test, and observe which makes it impossible to apply the scientific method to it.
Clever try though, otherwise well written but simply off-hand in any consideration that this will ever be considered as science.
Hare Krishna Tom
This is science. The soul is not impossible to record, test or observe. It is no different from electricity. You can not see the electricity. But you can see the light that the electricity produces when it is connected to a light-bulb. You can see the soul by comparing a living body with a dead on. The difference is dramatic. The difference is the presence of the soul within the living body. There is no other explanation.
So there is no question. You can record test and observe the soul. You can formulate theories and hypothesises and experiments to prove and disprove the existence of the soul. I have written all this in the article. Did you actually read the article?
i am myself a spritual scholar i have read geeta and other religious books. i think the whole difference comes the way we view things! what tom believes will continue believing until he realizes the supreme happines and existence of pure life that lies within. no quotes and theories have ever power to make this understand its only possible to understand when things are put into practise under guidance of a guru!
Hello
In my attempts, I have not at least by logical deduction, been able to proove that that there is a non-physical soul resident or attached to our physical body.
It is argued that it is just as likley that the soul as we percieve it emerges strictly from the brain, and the physical brain alone (Atheist perspecdtive).
The Christian perspective teaches that our soul is spiritual, and develops after creation of the physical body, and departs the body at death, and from my above readings in this blog the Krishna perspective teachest the soul is eternal and resides temporaily in physical body to body. In both religious perspective, the soul is immaterial (non-physical) and housed or attached – and operative with our physical body.
The Atheist perspective teaches that the soul is strictly physical, manifested or emergent from the brain, which ceases to exist at death. Hence our consciousness is manifest by a complex compilation of neural firings and brain chemistry.
Neither theist or atheist would disagree that a soul – as defined as that entity which percieves and controls our consciousness, exists however (common ground).
In the end there is a true dichotomy, the soul (that which percieves and controls our consciousness)is either physical (emergent from brain) or non-physical (eg. spiritual).
It would be interesting if a test could be developed to test at least the validy of either claim – hencing proving or disproving the alternate.
Any ideas out there?
Regards
Andrew
Andrew,
Scientists have already tested it. They found that for all the people that they tested on, their masses decreased by a small amount immediately after death. This change in mass is small but significant enough to be a possible indication of a “soul” leaving the body, Whether the atheists, or religions are right is your choice. But bottom line is, the test was conducted, and they found a decrease in mass of the dead bodies.
Being an atheist myself, I would not deny the existence of the soul, but then again, I will not support the view that there is a soul, since the tests, such as the one I mentioned above, are still in it’s infancy stage.
By asking our-selves we can get an idea both Soul & Body are altogateher seperate entity.
1. We have five senses Eyes (to see ), Ear (to hear ) , Tounge (to test ), Nose (to smell ) & Skin ( to touch ), ask your self who KNOWS this five senses & With help of this five sense WHO also “KNOWS” thing can be Identified and that who is “SOUL” that I or WE
2.When death occurs ! why Body & their senses do not respond because Who factor (SOUL) went out of body.
3.Why some people are Rich & some people are Poor , some are Healthy & some not not Health ,some are good looking & some not good looking ,some are intellengent & some not intellegent, if ask this question to ourselves ,then there must be our past lifes and what ever we have done in past lifes are result we see today . And that also proves that we were in the past & we are today that means our body dies not “WE” or “I”
From this we can carry out an Idea the presence of “SOUL” in the body, however, if WE want to get RELIASATION of our SOUL to HIGHEST level we need the guidence of EXPERIENCED (SELF-RELIASED) person.
Hare Krishna
When we look at the soul from scientific perspective, we should evaluate the situation it objectively (of course one can accept Krishna and not investigate any further). I still feel we do not have any direct evidence for the existence of soul as in my opinion what is mentioned above are implications for the existence of the soul. However, it must also be mentioned that just because we do not have technology to detect something it does not exist. Indeed, according to the scientists, the electron existed for more that 13 billion years. Only after this time we, on Earth, thought about its existence. Before discussing the soul in terms of matter and non mater we must discuss recent scientific theories on matter and energy. For example, if the soul is non matter, do we then accept it is energy or it may be another distinct entity apart from matter and energy.
To complicate the issue further the matter as we know (atoms consisting of neutrons, protons and electrons makes up less than 25% of the total matter in the universe. More than 75% of the matter is the dark matter (dark refers to little knowledge and has nothing to with evil/no light etc). We know very little about this dark matter and cannot measure it or detect its existence except for its gravity. Dark matter may be all around us as well as out there in space.
Likewise, energy that we know is only less than 25% of the total energy in the universe. Nature of more than 75% energy is unknown to us. Similarly this is referred to as ” dark energy”.
Just to complete the argument there is also the anti matter which is similar to conventional atoms but polarity of the particles reversed.
So finally I ask my question, the soul being non matter, is it non conventional matter but could be dark matter? Is it energy and if so coventional energy or dark energy. Soul could not be anti matter since matter and anti matter anhilate each other. Having said that scientist usually manage to find exception to the rule! And of course Krishna is all powerful!
Finall y, is it something totally different form these.
For one to claim there is direct evience for the existence of the soul, one must be able to give categorical (with proof) answers to these questions.
Any way, I do believe in the soul and am prepared to wait for another 13 billion years (or more) before we have direct evidence for the existence of the soul. Many a scientists have made wonderful discovries by believing the unbelievable and looking for it!
Here’s a Christian’s take on the soul.
Firstly, I’d like to go to physics. Energy is convertible into matter and vice versa. Yet, the fact my consciousness appears to be separate and self aware is impressive. Not only that, but humans tend to display creativity and individual consciousnesses see to take up certain space and time. Taking up space or time is a property of matter or energy. Yet this consciousness seems to produce thoughts and opinions while matter and energy is never produced nor destroy, but converted according to physics.
From my religion and scientific view I deduce that the idea of a trinity could completely represent a human being and God.
Energy is the life and motion; the Holy Ghost; a binding energy required to keep all matter together and create all matter and omnipresent.
Matter is a vessel of sorts. Jesus Christ was the body. We have bodies and live in a world of matter. Both matter and anti-matter.
Then comes this living self awareness that produces thoughts and ideas. It seems to be more then the rearrangement of molecules and energy into our nerves and cells, because it somehow takes up unique and individual space. This is why I only see out of my eyes because I am attached to my own vessel. It goes beyond just a vessel because as particles from my body are lost, like skin cells and hair, I still feel like I occupy the same space and am not partially lost. The very word “I” denotes that a person be somewhat separate and individual regardless of the similarities they hold towards other living beings. This is the Godhead or soul of God. Probably the most complex part as it produces thoughts and ideas that cannot be quantized by any mathematics we have learned.
I feel as if there has to be God. Your God and mine. Something that transcends me more than by a small margin because it is clear in physics and chemistry no one truly dies.
In Christianity there is a recycling of souls into new bodies. However, there isn’t a reincarnation back into the same type of mortal bodies. There was something interesting that caught my eye though. Souls can be disembodied, and therefore if there were to be an attempted reincarnation according to Christianity it could become considered “demonic possession”.
Awareness is the soul and consciousness is the physical bridge between the soul particle and the physical universe.
Eternity is like an endless railway and life are the temporal stops in the universe along the way.
i don’t think we will have to wait 13 my; if consciousness is what I see as ‘pressure’ generated by an energized gas cloud expanding and in doing so compressing all materials and gases of bodies in the cloud, then we are currently experiencing our maximum potential as a conscious –fully aware of self– human being.
If Hannes Alfven was right, and the universe is blobs of matter/antimatter and we are in one of the matter ones, we exist because of that fact. He said that the universe was composed of ambimatter, and that protons/antiprotons were separated from electrons/antielectrons by a thin energy slice, this DL was the purposeful nature of matter.
We now know that antiprotons exist on Earth above the South Atlantic Anomaly. All science is recording increases in kinds of atmospheres of all our solar planets, new species are being identified, mirror neurons were discovered in just 2005! At it is not a coincidence that we are experiencing the apex of the 5,000 y cycle at 2012.
I propose the Milky Way is functioning like a capacitor storing energy and from our point out here on the Sagitarrius arm it discharges when overloaded at the 5,000 y mark. That means that neutrinos are being stored in core bodies which reflect this by heating. The Earth core is getting hotter. Additionally, we are wrapped in our local gas could NASA calls Fluff. Fluff is absorbing the neutrino also and is energizing. This energizing is what is compressing the entire solar heliosphere down to somewhere close to Sol.
I suggest that our entire development has been determined by this continual and periodic compression by Fluff which NASA says has a 10 my age. I suggest that group minds like bees and termites have a mentality that was steered by this compression. I suggest that is the normal outcome. Our individuality is caused by our development being exposed not just to compression but to expansion by the backside of the Double Layer plasma sheath. I further suggest our consciousness –our self awareness– is not unique and now is the time for the ‘discovery’ of consciousness in the animals not thought to be self aware. The pressure exerted by the gas cloud is at near maximum we will experience at this time –other cycles have been more–and science has pinned down most of human feeling–even thinking about what others think!! –in a definite part of the brain but self awareness eludes them.
It is because consciousness is external; it is the pressure from our energized gas cloud Fluff. As such, it will soon become a subject of conjecture once again — but right now, we have the evidence that consciousness is external, applied by the electromagnetic field of enormous energy we can never match. This periodic rise and fall is what makes us wonder and propose– we see it so fleetingly and then it is gone without us being aware—!!
Krishna how happy I am ? You wake me up from my dreams and opened my eyes with your Namasmarana.I opened krishna website and forget this world after seeing you everywhare. If I had rebirths you Krishna help me to know more as I am stranch follower of Bhagavadgita. Krishna you are my father,mother and in one word everything. Oh Krishna please help me to remember you always and particularly in my last breath. I read Bhajagovindam and understood why is this life without thinking you My last request please do not give me rebirths and unite with you, Hare Rama Hare Rama RamaRama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna KrishnaKrishna Hare Hare.Please help me to remember you always.
I want to more about True-Ego (Real Ego) and how do we develop it?
Hare Krishna Gopal
Ego means identity, so the ‘real ego’ means the real identity. Our real identity is that we are eternally servants of Krishna and we do not really have to develop it, it is there with us eternally, but it is now covered by this material body and our false ego that is misidentifying myself with my body. So the problem is the false ego is bewildering us into thinking that we are this material body and that if we satisfy the senses of this material body we will be happy. So this bodily concept of life is a product of the false ego. The real ego is still with us but it is covered by the false ego. So we simply have to uncover our real ego and that is done by chanting:
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare…
Madhudvisa dasa
Can you people kindly say what happen to the soul after we die?
Hi.
The soul is eternal, it does not die and it is not born. So there is no death for the soul. Only the material body becomes an unfit place for the soul to stay so it is forced to leave that material body and then that body appears to ‘die’. But the body was never living at all. It is only because of the presence of the spirit soul within the body that it appears to be ‘alive’ and when the soul leaves the material body it shows it real feature as ‘dead…’
So the soul is transferred to another body according to the consciousness of the person at the time of death. So it is your consciousness at the time of death that will cause your soul to travel to a particular body next…
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
If the soul cannot die and cannot be born, does that mean there have always been the same amount of souls on earth? And if every human being has a soul, then how do you explain the increase (in billions) in population over history? Does it make sense by your logical definition of the soul?
Hare Krishna
Yes. The souls are not created and destroyed. They exist eternally. But they are virtually unlimited. There are so many souls that are unmanifest at any time. Every ant, every insect, every microbe, every plant, even there are souls in more unmanifest states. So a little change in the human or other species population is not a problem. There are virtually unlimited souls available. Also souls are coming and going from different planets and different universes. At the time of death the soul can go anywhere, any planet, any universe, even the spiritual world. And the souls that are taking birth can also come from anywhere. They do not have to come from this planet. So we are talking about an unlimited reservoir of souls and an unlimited number of planets and universes for them to live on… So a little change of the population of some species here and there can be easily adjusted.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
Well .. Interesting concept of ET coming into picture. But how well can we describe a soul of an organism which is biological in nature.
What I believe is, Soul is a concept, energy is what exist and which is being traveled as through the universe and planets as you said. Soul is being used by religions to make a Life worth!
An intelligent thinking by some Ancient ALIEN’ ..
Life cannot exist without a soul particle.
Eternity is what comes after death and before one’s soul attachment after conception. What is eternity like for the soul? In eternity there is no biophotonic light, it is truly black though at times it seemed as if there were areas in this space that was blacker. There is no awareness of time or space in eternity, time and space have no meaning in eternity. There is only pure awareness of self in eternity nothing else. There is no thought, only awareness and awareness of truth.
Assume the following exists; physical universe, life and soul particles. The first two assumptions being that a physical universe exists and that there exists life in this universe require little proof, it’s only the third assumption that is in question, but since it’s assumed, then what follows explains this process.
During the fusion of gametes, the process involving the fusion of an ovum with a sperm leads to the formation of a diploid cell called a zygote. As DNA combines the structural change lowers in entropy of the cell, some of this energy loss is in the form of spontaneous ultra weak photon emission from the cell or simply biophoton emission. The cell can be viewed as an optical cavity emitting coherent light and in the reverse process the cell acts is a physical antenna. The S-particle is attracted to this antenna and is weakly held, if the cell fails to attract and hold an S-particle it eventual dies.
The process of DNA being exchanged between homologous chromosomes is called homologous recombination, perhaps this is the process resulting in the spontaneous biophoton emission from cell that enthralls its awareness, or more simply the S-particle detects these transmissions. There is a shorter time period in which there is no biophotonic emission from the cell prior to division, but the process restarts sometime shortly after each division. The experience from this process is like a growing tree of light. This on-off division process continues until roughly the 14th day when the neurulation begins thereby trapping the soul particle into its DNA determined life form.
Thank you for the information presented.
We all need to pay closer attention to what gives meaning to our being alive.
I do have a few questions. Can Soul Theory explain:
1- How can one soul confess to having Over-Lapping past life experiences, as it is done under hypnosis?
2- As the population of man is increasing, where do the extra souls come from?
3- What is the difference between “soul” and “spirit”?
4- What is the difference between states of Dreaming, Coma and Seizure?
Thank you again for having such a site for this kind of meaningful information exchange.
Take care and may everyone have a pleasant day.
Bahram Esmailzadeh
Hare Krishna Bahram
We do not have overlapping lives. We are an individual soul and except for some very rare cases of some great yogis and mystics we are only in one place at any point in time. So there are not overlapping past lives. People can say any crazy things under hypnosis, we don’t have to believe that craziness.
The population of man is increasing. The extra souls can come from many places. There are three animals who take their next birth as humans: monkeys, lions and cows and we are in a very gigantic universe and there are many other planets with intelligent human begins on them and they can also take birth on any other planet at the time of death. And our universe is only like one mustard seed in a big bag of mustard seeds. So there are so many other universes and people from those other universes can also take birth in this universe. And there are also souls falling down from the brahmajoyti, so there is really no shortage of spirit souls. There are unlimited spirit souls. There is Krishna and a spirit soul present within every atom even. So there is absolutely no shortage of souls whatsoever…
Soul refers to the entity referred to as the atma in the Sanskrit language. Spirit is more generic I guess.
as far as your fourth question I wonder why you are asking such questions?
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
wait a second , lions , monkeys and cows become humans ? are you really serious ? lol .
so if i eat a cow , which i do everyday , im eating a human being .
do u expect anyone to believe what you have just said and then you want to talk science , after saying we were cows , lions and monkey ????????
if that is so , i believe that fat people were elephants !
There is an evolution of consciousness through the different species of life and there are three modes of material nature and there are three animals in this natural evolutionary series who will take their next birth as humans. And that would be cows, lions and monkeys. Not elephants…. Their next birth is not human.
This is a science, the science of the transmigration of the soul.
And yes. You have realized correctly, you should not be eating cows. We should not unnecessarily commit violence upon other living entities. It is true, jivo jivasya jivanam, “every living entity lives by eating another living entity.” This is the law of nature, but for civilized human beings the allotted food is fruits, vegetables, milk products and grains. We can live very happily and be very satisfied with this sort of diet which is very suited to nourish the human body perfectly.
Of course the living entity who is now an elephant can also become a human being later on, but not in the next life generally. If you understand just this one point you will have made a great advancement in spiritual knowledge. We are all spirit souls. We are living in a particular body at the moment because of our actions in previous lives and we will be placed in a different body after the death of this body according to our consciousness at the time of death.
So if you think of an elephant at the time of death you too can become an elephant…
You can take on any body. It depends on your consciousness. You get a body that matches your consciousness..
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
How can someone even say that the soul is eternal when it hasn’t even been proven by science and something material wouldn’t know of the existence of non-material entities because something non-material wouldn’t be able to be seen by material beings.
Someone can say the soul is eternal if he has learned that knowledge from a perfect authority. If you hear some scientific knowledge from an expert person, like for example water is H2O, two molecules of hydrogen and on molecule of water, then actually you have no idea, you have no way of testing this for yourself, but you accept the knowledge because the person who gives you this knowledge is an authority and he knows. So you can then say water is H2O and you will be correct, you have the real knowledge.
So if you hear that there is an eternal soul from a bona fide spiritual authority who knows the constitution of the body and the soul then you get the real, perfect knowledge. This is the only way to get real knowledge, you have to find a perfect person, a pure devotee, and hear the knowledge from him…
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
Hey All,
I believe that we all humans are part of a game. Irrespective of existence of soul or not, one cannot eacape the fate. Consider ourselves as the characters of a game and the creator chooses who to be villain and who to be hero irrespective of our karmas
Yes. To some extent. But you can get out of the game by chanting:
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare