ISKCON Destroys a Whole Generation of Devotee’s Lives… [UPDATED]
February 14, 2002 by gurukul-vetren
Filed under ISKCON
I have so much pain in my heart…. So much pain and tears… If you could just see what you have done to me..to us…. All in the name of worshiping Krsna…. Well now krnsna can kiss my suicidle ass! Cause that’s all I think about is just ENDING my misarable life…. Everyday I have to find a reason why I should stay. I have nothing but you and all your
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Readers should be informed that this young lady has already apologized for her strong language against Sri Krsna and Srila Prabhupada (read comments: “Iskcon files for bankruptcy” 11/2/02). [also at the end of this article] She is a victim of ISKCON’s paedophilia protection racket, and should be given our full support.
Had ISKCON made as much noise about the monsters who raped children as they do about plans to protect assets, their concerns would have been self evident.
As it is (even though management has admitted awareness of the crimes), there has never been a single case where ISKCON has prosecuted a predator. Not in the past, nor at this present time. To the contrary, they have given protection, even given office to known offenders.
ISKCON will find very little sympathy (if any) in the public eye. This is the single most concentrated case of child-abuse in the history of man. To believe that material assets will be spotlighted, is just another ISKCON illusion. ISKCON’s accumulation through expansion program may get some air, and its techniques of psychollogical slavery may be exposed. Other than that, the rape and abuse of its own children will take center stage. (SGd)
The pain you teachers and gbc put me threw……the isolations, segregating me from my parents and family……all the times i was molested and then finaly raped YOU the devotees and your PHILOSOPHY said it was my fault my karma….at the age of 8 or nine my gurukula teacher told me to thank krsna that this man violated me now and not later, that i was paying for my karma, i must have done the same in my past life to a child and now i must accept what happened as krsnas mercy, tell that to my badly swollen 9 year old hairless vagina! another time at 10 it was my fault cause to many bramacharies had crushes and any prabhupada said woman are the fire and men are the butter…..beleive me there were many molestations and tons of excusses and no ONE PROTECTED ME! NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!
how many of our molesters got found out and just moved around to another temple by the GBC to avoid prosecution….HOW many GBC’s are molesters them selves!
my nightmares and daymares is all i have now…..you people copletely PHUCKED ME! i worshiped the ground my teachers and elders WALKED on and all i got was hit called a prostitute all the time, for like not covering my head or looking at the bramacharis as they danced all around the temple like horny bulls!…..I cant beleive the things you people made me do……drinking foot juice from bavananda another molester! or when i spilled my food i had to eat it off the floor and my juice or milk to….cause its prasadam, you people treated me like shit and cant even do right by me.
you’v done some evil and just plain TERORizing things to me and to my godbrothers and sisters. I watched, i witnessed all the abuses……no exgeration here Anutuma. You are the spokesperson for a bunch of child molesters and control FREAKS.
i have so much pain in my heart….so much pain and tears..
if you could just see what you have done to me..to us….all in the name of worshiping krsna….well now krnsna can kiss my suicidle ass! cause thats all i think about is just ENDING my misarable life…. everyday i have to find a reason why i should stay. i have nothing but you and all your tortures to keep me crazy….
i sit here remembering all that anutama has said, all that ISCKON has done to me. i just want to die.
why did you do this to me.
why?
gurukula vetern.
Thank you for your words… beleive it or not i dont mean at all to be offensive to KRSNA or SRILA PRABHUPADA, but all that I was taught through my abuses was out of this Devotion for Them.
When they punished us or locked me in the dirty kitchen/closets it was Prabhupad’s tape they played behind the door all day till they saw fit to let me out…. Sometimes the girls would slip chapatis under the door for me….
When I tell you that I can not even hear/see or smell anything devotional because I become physicly ill, like nasua, cold sweats and crying lots of crying….
Sri Krsna AND Srila Prabhupad has been CRAMED down my throught and now what ever beauty you all seem to see, i just cant see it…. To much pain….
Wether i was misinformed about the true essence of Vaisnava life or not, I am ruined for life by it….. I am A Survivor no doubt……. and there are many of us out there.
So though I mean not affend you there is the other side that is just so angry. At the MisUse of your gods name and of his supposed pure devotees….and the need to sound respectful towards them now….is so hard for me…..confusing…..imposible….
I am a product of all the glorious bull….. If there is a Krsna out there then He knows who I am….. where my heart is and where I came out of…… and I think He is much more merciful then we all think and He would understand my anger even if misguided threw teachings and abuse……
I dont know anymore who is up there but I know His love was not supposed to be like this…. From my Sad heart to yours I mean no offence…. I just need so badly to be HEARD for things to change and for JUSTICE…..
Thank you for everyones concern, it’s almost surprising…. because I just have read so many negative things writen about us and it comforting to know NOT everyone is blind, that there is compasion among some of the devotees…. Unlike how i was raised. i am just in so much pain and doing all I can to make sence of everything.
Of course there is no sense in it, it was a crazy mans life.
I just want Justice…… now in this lifetime.
Gurukul Vetren
My dear godsister, reading of your experience made me cry.Let me first tell you that you never deserved such treatment, &i am so so sorry for what you suffered…i wish i could take your hurt away,& i wish i could be there for you.Although i am just an online devotee friend, i’ll try my best, & i hope you read this.
Though you may be skeptical about the existance of Krsna/God i assure you, so many devotees have felt the same way at some point in life…whether before or after they came to the movement.
I don’t believe it is offensive to honestly address your feelings. I believe it is our life’s purpose as devotees to be true to ourselves, and to be sincere, this includes honesty with our selves in regard to our own pain, suffering, and even doubting of our own faith as a result. You are not a bad person, and i assure you that Krsna is right there with you. Eventually i know you’ll be able to reach out to Him.
I faced a bad temple experience myself and found myself soured on the Holy Name…it connotated brainwash and hostility.i hated that they did this to me.
I gave-up everything to become a devotee, & they treated me like garbage knowing full-well that i had no place to go.When i got sick they were only concerned that i wasn’t able to do my services. Though i knew loved Krsna &Prabhupada, i couldn’t understand why i just did not want to hear about them anymore. I couldn’t understand why i was filled with guilt and anger, i couldnt get why being supposedly immersed in Krsna consciousness i was losing my faith.I was told by other women that suffering was necessary because it would make me more humble.
Where was the compassion?
I finally left after butting heads with the temple president.They called me an agitator.
But Krsna knows, hears and feels everything that you do, my dear. He is not represented by unqualified people.This isn’t whatPrabhupada wanted.Krsna will never leave you i promise.Love for Krsna doesn’t have to mean love for ISKCON. It no longer stands for what Prabhupada’s teachings,which is ur compass
And though after i left i abandoned my sadhana for a little while, i eventually came back to Prabhupada…i began reading again and developed my relationship with Krsna and Prabhupada on my OWN terms and wasn’t confused by unqualified people dictating scripture and Prabhupada’s divine teachings. They have no right to do so and they have no right to be in positions of trust and i am sorry that you had to suffer because of the ignorance of others. YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH KRSNA IS YOUR OWN. Please hear me when i say that when you discover this, you’ll be able to overcome the spiritual block that came from this oppression…and overcome the sadness and anger as well. Please don’t lose faith in the holy name. Please… You were exposed to ISKCON during a very messed up and tragic period of its history… But please, start fresh with your relationship with KRSNA…in a sincere way. The divine love of Krsna is not hostile, it is not condemning…it is not abusive. It is compassionate and merciful beyond anything these unqualified fools comprehend at this point. And if they were good devotees they would have treated you with the same respect and sweetness Prabhupada always treated kids with.
But don’t let them take the holy name away from you…please chant. Please try to find that love that has always resided in your heart…the holy name will heal you i swear it will.
You are worth all the love and care in the world. Allow Krsna to show you the best love and care there is… I will be praying for you. May Lord Nityananda shower you in His divine compassion and mercy…May Lord Caitanya show you spiritual triumph…May Lord Nrsimhadeva protect you from all evil thoughts, memories, people and situations…May Lord Krsna deliver you from this darkness…May Radharani show you the beauty of divine love.
Your anonymous servant,
Dasi
HARE KRSNA , ALL GLORIES to HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD. To my God Sister i’m so sorry for the abuse that you experienced at the hands of the lowest form life{a person who hurts a child}. It makes me so angry when i hear these stories of Devotees who have suffered so much pain. i don’t know what infuriates me more the fact that demonic preditors committed these kinds of offenses or that good men stood bye and let it happen. Its every mans duty too protect women and children not child molesting vermin in the guise of a Devotee. Sister you DID NOT deserve this, anyone who try’s to justify this abomination or place the blame on your karma is a fool. it hurts my heart to think of you in the kind of anguish that you expressed in your first letter. i wish i could take some of your pain but only KRSNA can do that. Please consider the wise advice of our Sister Dasi and chant HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE. Why this happened to you i cant possibly imagine. Little Sister i often times question KRSNA’s love probably because i am a novice with no qualification to understand KRSNA’s Yogamaya. All i know from my personal experience is that this world is a brutal place and Srila Prabhupad and KRSNA are the only shelter. i have to have faith that in the end theres a reason for it all. When i was a child i had a very strict and what today would be considered an abusive father. He didn’t believe in sparing the rod or spoiling the child. i hated him for the way that he treated me and for the path that i took in my teens and early adult life. i often questioned why KRSNA gave me the parents that i had. Now after many many years i can see that it was KRSNA’s mercy. My father was training me the best way he knew how even though in an incorrect manner. He was giving me character, teaching me right from wrong and teaching me skills that i needed later on in life. Skills that if i didnt have i wouldn’t had survived. Now He’s in the next life i look back on the time we spent together and i love him. i’ve forgiven him for his shortcomings and i’m grateful. All i’m saying is that i never would have for seen loving my dad and having the understanding i do now by KRSNA’s Grace. i think its in Romans where Pual says{paraphrasing} we’re looking through a glass half full but someday we’ll know,even as we’re known, FULLY. Sister please forgive me if i’ve made any offences against you i just wanted to relate to you a little of my experience and try as pitifully as i can to be supportive. Hang in,there grit your teeth, remember this too shall pass. To all the Vaishnavas please except my fallen obeisances, Sincerely james
OMG , I have heared about gurukulis experiences before , but have never read something so sad ,so personal, so brave. I admire u girl. I will not here mention u Krishna or gurus or anything ,but will just tell u that i hope u will find some strength in yourself to heal with time. Please do it ,i am sure you can.
What they did to u can never be justified ,and must be prosecuted , not in another lifetime ,but in THIS ONE. Those asses who posed as devotees and then abused kids are pure shit of this world. No justification for that. Not by karma nor by maya, nor kali yuga! So dear , please hold on , i know i will remember you for life cuz you are a surviver ,even i dont now who u are.
Now P.S. for a comment above :
excuse me dear devotee above my comment , but she dont wanna hear much about chanting and praying. I totally understand her ,and this is not the time nor a place to preach to her. She needs a closure.Support.
Did u just compared your strict father in raising with her brutal rape and abuse from fucking “saintly” devotees ,all in the name of god ???? Later u got that krishna gave u those parents and u realized thats mercy ….. are u implying that she should realize that its mercy to pay of her karma?
Or i didnt get u right?
I presume u didnt have bad intention , but careful please .
Krishna is the supreme , but he also understands her rage .
And by the way ,didnt Prabhupada teach children to be taken away to gurukula at age of 3 4 5 ..? For girls to have no education? To be married at reaching puberty???? Why such surprise at abusing young girls , when Srila Prabhupada himself was saying that girls should become sexually active at young age with their older husbands ,and that women enjoy men who are expert at rape. ??!!?
Im not here to flame prabhupada for all . I do respect him for his mission for bringing GV to the west , bt he did say many things that he shouldnt have siad . He grow up in different culture and didnt have much knowledge on material issues , but he left free way to some psychos and fucking pedophiles to hang on to his few statements and to base their crime on it. Crime against krishna’s children . Damn me ,if i would ever give my baby son to any type of religios school (gurukula especially) .EVER ! How easy is to blind people, to make mass hysteria ,mass slavery , to make parent give their kids away , some of them to believe abusers over their children’e word!!! And by studying beautiful Gaudiya teachings we could have learned how to develop real rasa with the divine couple one day. Institution religion and politic hand by hand fuck it up for many of sincere devotees.
My deepest respect to them . dandavats.
Hare Krishna
Since i have read in scriptures that ” A sincere soul will never be deceived ”
And The Lord personally protects His sincere practioners ….
Practioners may be imperfect ….but the Personal Associates of Supreme Lord(Srila Prabhupada) are always perfect and like Supreme Lord they are All Powerful…..
So no other option than to cry from the bottom of the heart only and only to Krishna and His Personal Associates for help……
Haribol