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Seeds of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Holy Koran?

We all know that most Muslims are not terrorists, nor do they want to quarrel with others. The majority of them simply want to worship God in their way and live a peaceful life. So why does there seem to be friction and difficulties that often involve Muslims? And why are there so many terrorists in the world who, indeed, call themselves followers of Islam? Where do we find the seeds?

  • The Koranic References for the Sword

    Does the Koran itself give credence to strike against kafirs and infidels, those who are non-Muslims, or to conduct a holy war to protect and expand the faith? When we study the Koran, it certainly seems that it provides for such viewpoints.

    There are numerous ayats (verses) in the Koran that confirm the ways for Muslims to view and treat non-Muslims. For example: “O Prophet! Rouse the believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.” (Surah 8:65) “Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): ‘I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them.” (Surah 8:12) “Truly Allah loves those who fight in His cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.

    ” (Surah 61:4)

    In this mood, as we have seen, many Islamic terrorists are ready to give up their lives for the cause. They engage in suicide attacks wherein it is part of the plan that they will give up their lives, often believing that by doing so they automatically go to heaven. So does the Koran justify this idea? In this respect we find the following verses:

    “Think not of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord.” (Surah 3:169) “O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth in the Cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.” (Surah 9:38) Herein we find the Koran practically encouraging the anticipation for reaching the next life.

    Furthermore, does the Koran specifically relate a harsh view toward infidels, non-Muslims? If it does, then that would make it even easier for militant Muslims to feel there is little harm in ill-treating or even killing those who are participants of other religions. In this regard we find the following verses in the Koran:

    “Verily ye (unbelievers), and the (false) gods that ye worship besides Allah, are (but) fuel for Hell! To it will ye (surely) come!” (Surah 21:98) “(The sentence will be:) Throw, throw into Hell every contumacious Rejector (of Allah)!; Who forbade what was good, transgressed all bounds, cast doubts and suspicions; who set up another god beside Allah: throw him into a severe penalty.” (Surah 50:24) “Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks [cut off their heads]; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); But (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others, but those who are slain in the way of Allah [for the cause of Allah]–He will never let their deeds be lost. Soon He will guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them.” (Surah 47:4-6) “Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst creatures. Those who have faith and do righteous deeds–they are the best of creatures.” (Surah 98:6 and 7)

    This all seems to give justification to expanding the faith not necessarily with spiritual knowledge, understanding and purity, but by what would be military strength under the Will of Allah. Furthermore, it would seem that with this mentality, infidels and all non-Muslims are fit to be exterminated, that it could be a favor to Allah to rid the world of them. These verses also show that those who die for Allah or the cause of Islam will be delivered to the garden of paradise. With the basis of verses like these, it is no wonder that it is not difficult to arouse young Muslims for the Islamic cause in the training camps of Al-Qaida and other militant and fundamentalistic groups. How much bloodshed has already been shed throughout history because of this teaching is inestimable. So it should not be surprising that the radical Islamic leader Abdullah Shah Mazhar recently got 5,000 volunteers to take the “oath of death” and commit themselves to suicide squads in attacks against the U.S. and other “infidel forces”.

    However, this is not new. Swami Vivekananda in a lecture in California in January of 1900 said regarding this aspect of Islam: “Every step forward was made with the sword–the Quran in one hand and the sword in the other: Take the Quran, or you must die; there is no alternative!”

    Mahatma Gandhi also spoke about this aspect of Islam. After the assassination of Swami Shraddhanand by a Muslim fanatic in December, 1926, he said: “Mussalmans have an ordeal to pass through. There can be no doubt that they are too free with the knife and the pistol. The sword is no emblem of Islam. But Islam was born in an environment where the sword was, and still remains, the supreme law. The message of Jesus has proved ineffective because the environment was unready to receive it. So with the message of the Prophet. The sword is yet too much in evidence among the Mussalmans. It must be sheathed if Islam is to be what it means–peace.

  • The Rewards and Punishments in the Koran

    What makes the idea of who is saved and who is worthy of hell more clear, there are specific rewards for the believers and punishments for the non- believers that are related in the Koran. Some of these are as follows:

    “For the Rejectors We have prepared chains, yokes, and a blazing fire. As to the righteous, they shall drink of a cup (of wine) mixed with Kafur. A fountain where the devotees of Allah do drink, making it flow in unstinted abundance.” (Surah 76: 4-6) “But Allah will deliver them from the evil of that day, and will shed over them a light of beauty and a (blissful) joy. And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a garden and (garments of) silk. Reclining in the (garden) of raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun’s (excessive heat) nor (the moon’s) excessive cold. And the shades of the (garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there will hang low in humility. And among them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal.” (Surah 76:11-15)

    “Those who reject (Truth) among the People of the Book and among the polytheists, were not going to depart (from their ways) until there should come to them clear evidence. . . Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hellfire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. Those who have faith and do righteous deeds–they are the best of creatures. Their reward is with Allah: Gardens of Eternity, beneath which rivers flow, they will dwell therein forever; Allah well pleased with them, and they with Him: all this for such as fear their Lord and cherisher.” (Surah 98:1, 6-8)

    “Verily the [judgement] day of sorting out is a thing appointed. The day that the trumpet shall be sounded, and ye shall come forth in crowds; and the heavens shall be opened as if there were doors, and the mountains shall vanish, as if they were a mirage. Truly Hell is a place of ambush–for the transgressors a place of destination: They will dwell therein for ages. Nothing cool shall they taste therein, nor any drink, save a boiling fluid and a fluid, dark, murky, intensely cold–a fitting recompense (for them).” (Surah 78:17-26)

    In the following verses we also find that the infidels include the Christians, those who think that God begot a son. “(Those) who say (Allah) Most Gracious [Lord] has begotten a son! Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! As if the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin. That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious. For it is not constant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.” (Surah 19:88-92) “Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, ‘Allah hath begotten a son’; No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying.

    What they say is nothing but falsehood!” (Surah 18:4)

  • The Basis of Muslim Brotherhood

    In the Koran there are several ayats (verses) that dictate the basis of Muslim brotherhood and how they should view one another. For example: “Verily, this Brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood, and I am your Lord and cherisher. Therefore, serve Me (and no other).” (Surah 21:92) “To each is a goal to which Allah turns him; then strive together (as a race) towards all that is good. Whosoever ye are, Allah will bring you together. For Allah hath power over all things.” (Surah 2:148) “Those who believe, and adopt exile and fight for the Faith, in the cause of Allah as well as those who give (them) asylum and aid–these are (all) in very truth the Believers: for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous.” (Surah 8:74)

    In this way, the Koran establishes the basis of a Muslim Brotherhood in which they serve and support each other and their activities that are considered to be the cause of Allah, or for Islam in general. Thus, they are motivated to work to help each other.

    This is most favorably viewed while under the dictates of the Koranic law, which takes priority over the civil or state law of the local country. This is the foundation of what is called the “Islamic Nation”, which Muslims call the general Islamic community that consists of Muslims throughout the world. Furthermore, few outsiders are allowed to be part of this brotherhood. It tends to divide Muslims from all others who are non-Muslims, who are considered non-believers in view of the Koranic verses quoted above.

    The problem with this sort of brotherhood has been noted by numerous people. In a lecture in California in January of 1900, Vivekananda said: “Mohammedans talk of universal brotherhood, but what comes out of that in reality? Why, anybody who is not a Mohammedan will not be admitted into the brotherhood; he will more likely have his throat cut.”

    Another example is from Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, who formed the Indian Constitution. He could see the dangers of what is the Islamic brotherhood. In his book, “Thoughts on Pakistan”, published in 1940, he explains: “Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast Islam is said to bind people together. But this is only a half truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non- Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is the brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation there is nothing but contempt and enmity.”

    In 1941, Ambedkar spoke further about the effects of the Islamic brotherhood, at least in India. However, it reflects an attitude in Muslims that is found in numerous other areas as well. “It is this which leads every Mussalman in India to say that he is a Muslim first and Indian afterwards. It is this sentiment which explains why the Indian Muslim has taken so small a part in the advancement of India but has spent himself to exhaustion by taking up the cause of Muslim countries and why Muslim countries occupy the first place and India occupies the second place in his thoughts.”

    In conclusion, if any of the above information and Koranic references are taught to young Muslims in such places as the thousands of madarsas (Islamic schools) in India, and that the 880 million fellow citizens of India are but kafirs and infidels who deserve or are ultimately going to be thrown into the hellfire; and that their primary allegiance is not to the country of their residence but to the State of Islam; and that the Koran justifies them to engage in Jihad against all non-Muslims; then their psychological and spiritual well-being, along with the peace of the world and the safety of anyone else, is in jeopardy.

(Verses were taken from “The Holy Qur’an: Text, Translation and Commentary” by ‘Abdullah Yusuf ‘Ali, published by Amana Corporation, Brentwood, Maryland, USA.)

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16 Responses to Seeds of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Holy Koran?

  1. concerned says:

    dear Madhudvisa dasa,
    i’m not sure if it is you running this site?? I do not find a place where many devotees are discussing. Dandavats has articles about the normal stuff, and the only few comments lately were on articles on faultfinding and gossip.

    i’m wondering if devotees are not noticing what’s going on in the world. Where are the forums and sites with devotees waking up to a BIG problem. I would suggest someone like you who probably have many contacts to find a devotee with money that would offer say $1000 or $5000 to the devotee who writes the best article on what we should do about the islam problem. It’s real. It’s real. It’s real. Maybe money would get more people involved. We don’t want to see deities smashed and used as flooring, do we? I’ve lately been reading the koran, reliance of the traveller, milestones, catastrophic failure… there is way more similarity between muslims and devotees than i would have ever imagined and therefore it has become clear to me that Lord Caitanya is the only hope for the world. It’s time for devotees really wake up. Start by encouraging devotees to learn the problem and write on it, and develop ideas. It’s no joke.

    • Hare Krishna

      The only problem in the material world is a lack of Krishna consciousness. And the only solution to the problems of the world is Krishna consciousness. The problem is ISKCON has stopped preaching. They don’t care about the world. As long as they have a few Indians coming to the temple and giving them donations so they can get the money they want, they are happy. They have no interest in preaching. They have no idea how to preach. They have no faith in Srila Prabhupada and no idea that the problems of the world can be solved by Lord Caitanya’s Sankirtan Movement. They do not perform Sankirtan [distributing Srila Prabhupada’s books and Chanting Hare Krishna in the public] except for the absolute minimum symbolic show they can get away with. So this is the problem. Lord Caitainya’s Sankirtan movement has stopped…

      So the solution is only to restart the Sankirtan Movement of Srila Prabhupada and Lord Caitanya, there is no other problem.

      As far as the Muslim problem, with all due respects, Muslims are not generally very intelligent and they tend to be used by others, like the ‘new world order’ people, in their schemes. So in this modern ‘clash of cultures’ the Muslims are being used by evil people who want to destroy the Western world using the Muslims as a weapon. Of course these ideas are there in the Koran, but it is being stirred up and funded by the USA and others.

      So the problem is not actually the Muslims themselves. There are many very good Muslims. The thing is this Muslim religion is something of a concoction. There is no actual Muslim scripture that has any historical authority before Muhammad. He created the Koran by taking things from various scriptures, mainly the Christian scriptures and the Vedic scriptures. So you find many things in the Koran are similar to things in the Vedas, because Muhammad created a new religion by picking and choosing the things he liked from the existing religions…

      So many Muslims would become devotees, if we were preaching, if the Sankirtan movement was going on, and there would then be no problem.

      Also it is unrealistic to think this material world will ever be a happy place. The nature of the material world is a nasty place. But it can be transformed into the spiritual world, a very nice place, but only by the Sankirtan movement, which has been stopped by ISKCON…

      So the problem is Sankirtan has stopped. The only solution is to recreate an actual International Society for Krishna Consciousness according to Srila Prabhupada’s guidelines and restart the Sankirtan and then everything will be OK. Otherwise there will be so many problems, so many more problems, so many much worse problems…

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  2. Artin Baba & Dianne says:

    Hara Krishna!

    Is there a SINGLE volume condensation of Lord Chaitanya’s works? (Other than the Gita itself?) Many thanks for bringing me onto your mailing list.

    Hare Krishna again!


    I work in a health//herb/vitamin type of store. Many health-seekers ask me about what asanas are best to rid oneself of food/liquor/tobacco and other addictions. Can you enlighten me? Many thanks in advance.

    • Hare Krishna

      Yes. There is a single volume summary of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta. That is Srila Prabhupada’s Teachings of Lord Caitanya:

      As far as the health-seekers they have to stop eating the nasty food, stop drinking the alcohol and stop smoking and stop taking the drugs. These things all make any type of yoga or spiritual practice impossible.

      And the only way we can stop these things is by experiencing a higher spiritual taste. And we can get that higher spiritual taste by the mercy of a pure devotee like Srila Prabhupada and by chanting Hare Krishna…

      There is no other way.

      The only answer is Krishna consciousness.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  3. Beloved Relatives,
    A sword is used to sever ignorance, to bring truth and knowledge of heaven to earth.

    Krishna consciousness belong to all who are Crystal (christal) persons, as a crystal person’ perspective is Oneness. This goes for our brothers Jeshua, Mohammad, Moses and so many more. This is why we want this perspective, it’s the perfect warrior who fights for truth, for it’s the celestial crown, God gifted of course. And only Indigos, our prophets can see, how perfectly a crown can bee. Let the world, find this truth, above all hearts, to know, the perfect start (to view self, is to know self, this is looking into the eyes of a crystal person).

    Brotherhood, only comes when heavenly law comes to earth. This occurs in the third phase of evolution (heaven and earth), we enter 2013. The second phase we depart, only consists of earth or light. The darkness of heaven where our souls live, within our hearts, show us the way. Heavenly law is one, the law of love. This means, we walk towards the heart of others, regardless if they are of open hearts or not.

    There is one fight, to united broken hearts.
    There is one love, to exchange gifts.

    Your devoted servant,
    White Buffalo Calf Woman, your Twin Deer Mother
    elder crystal person, wakan iyes(h)ka or holy interpreter Rainbow Warriors of Prophecy

    I leave a song for you.

    Interpretation come here to me, I ask salvation for the keys. I am a creature brought down from God (g_ah_d: utterance of heavenly transmission). Now I will follow my heart. In the world, we do sea (vision with the heart), how glorious are the leaves (relatives), when we show others what is right, when we follow those in plight. We give our hearts and our hands, we give a place to understand. We allow all parts to live in love, and not in sin. Oh heaven begin. It’s a time for us to learn, that heaven’s commands are here to earn, the righteous place we take our stake, to bring them home, not alone.

    And when the sun goes up this day. I will believe in my heart and pray. I will listen within and do my prayers, so I can find my way, to purify this day. I lean on love, in all the vows, I do not contradict not even how. I am a creature, brought forth to bow, to everyone, not only the sun. And when my sisters take their place, heaven’s hand, will know pure grace, for it’s time, for heaven’s hand to find this earth, this blue world of course.

    My soul does leap, with joy abound, to make a heart, that astounds, who listens to all men first, then validates, even their curse. But if we don’t allow them their say, how can we expect our words to have a play. We need to understand, it’s our beloved world, we live in. And it’s time to begin. We can find love, if we look. We can find understanding in our cook. But if we don’t lean on words of love, then how do we know where to go.

    The heaven’s rule, not men on earth. And it’s time for us to bow to rainbows. Because we are one family, you and me, the heavenly tree. All words written for God, come to show us the way of proud. And you need to understand, what all men say. IF we don’t have a will, to understand, and walk up that hill, how will we be, the keepers of this family? Come lord (Great Spirit Father) set us free! It’s time for all to take their place, not only heaven, but earthly grace. I say it’s time for us to reach inside our hearts, and never part. We are going to be one family, third phase of our heavenly destiny. Where we learn how to bring it home, truth of love, truth of God.

    I bless you true, nine sacred direction in the view, and eastern shore, come home to roost. I know my Great Father and Great Mother endure to show us the way, a perfect day. We bow down and say our prayers. We lean on love, if we dare. And we unite broken hearts, for that’s the way, to learn and pray. We are the travelers, you and me. We are the children set forth to be free. Now it’s time, to understand, we are not only man, but heaven sent.

    We can be righteous in this world. We can sever ignorance with a sword. But we don’t kill in hate this day. WE kill to save our lives, to defend God’s waves. And when we show, that we are clear, heart full of pain disappears, then we shall know, we are heaven sent, joy will appear. It’s oh sow near.

    Come walk with me! Show divinity! WE will understand, how great is man, but we shall only persevere if we use love, not hate of course. Separation is not unity. Devotion has the key. We bring broken hearts to liberty, when we reunite, at doors we fight (broken hearts who need forgive, to be free). But if we count the very days. We know God, will show in display. Bless your heart, fight for love and find your way, into gardens of display.

    Heaven and Earth, come on home. Bring your sword (severing ignorance) and call on the phone (prayer), then we shall know, it’s time for us to lean on love, to lean on God (Oneness). Brotherhood we call upon you. Sisterhood, bring us to loving views. And it’s time, for us to shine, like a radiance of God’s sunshine. A light from within, will show the way. A light from within, our hearts we do pray. A light from within, will guide our way, into a perfect dream, into a perfect day. Let there be joy and brotherhood. Let there be dancing like it should, no separation, no enemies, only one family (rainbow colors each and everyone). WE are praying for thee. I bow to you, my relative true. I give my heart to always you. Just call my name (anyone) and we shall be close to heart. It’s time to fly free, our souls will learn of liberty!

  4. Sunil says:

    So why is ISKCON now coming to the conclusion now? Why do I hear lectures at the temple saying Allah is “god” etc. Lectures like this confuse people and make them less aware of the dangers.

    Islam is not a faith but Arab imperialism and no more, based around a cult figure. Even the Bible does not sanction Islam.

    Blessings Given to Ishmael

    In the Bible Abraham was given separate blessings for his children found in Genesis 12-17, two blessings one for the descendants of his son Isaac found in Genesis 17:2-9, Deuteronomy 1:7-8 and the other for the descendants of Ishmael found in Genesis 16:11-13, Genesis 17:20, Genesis 21:8-21. Upon hearing the Lord’s blessing for Isaac, Abraham pleaded with the Lord that Ishmael also be given a blessing.[17:18-21] In the second covenant given to Ishmael, the Lord promises:
    To make his descendants one great nation[17:20][21:13][21:18]
    That his descendants would live in hostility with all his brothers[16:11-13]
    That his descendants would live to the east of all his brothers[16:11-13]
    Ishmael’s brothers, other than Isaac, are found in Genesis 25:1-6. Among Abraham’s other descendants are Medan (the father of the Medes) and Jokshan whose son was Dedan whose son was Asshurim (the father of the Assyrian people). An extra biblical book known as the book of Jubilees places the location and identity of the Ishmaelites as the Arab peoples residing in Arab territories. This is the current view for the majority of the Christian, Islamic and Jewish faiths, though according to Biblical accounts the Arab people traditionally have had long-standing alliances with the descendants of the Assyrians and the Medes. As well, the Arab populations in modernity represent many nations rather than one nation as specified biblically. Other references, such as the book of Jashar indicate that the Ishmaelites settled in Havilah which is located in Central India.

  5. indu says:

    anyone can tell or knows anything about the muslim religion, if it is authorized according to Vedic scriptures and prabhupada or not?

    • Muslim religion is like the Christian religion, referred to by Lord Caitanya as the religions of the melechas, or meat-eaters. And really the scriptures of the meat eaters are contradictory.

      But according to people’s situation the Christian religion and the Muslim religion instill in the followers a belief in the Supreme Lord, and they encourage them to follow basic moral principles and the build churches and temples where the followers go and bow down and offer prayers to the Lord. Even the Muslims are encouraged to chant the name of God as they understand it. So this chanting of the name of God is effective.

      So we are not discouraging the Muslims or the Christians from following their religions. It is good for them if they follow seriously.

      But ultimately, if you really want to understand the science of God in full scientific detail, that is available in Krishna consciousness.

      Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

      • Alfieadam says:

        What you have said is illogical since Islam and Christianity contradict each other i.e. Trinity, Divinity of Jesus, Salvation etc

        Ultimately you say, Islam and Christianity is authorised by the Krishna consciousness, however you claim Krishna consciousness is the full truth, there’s a bit of a paradox and hypocrisy. At the end you accept all religions but still claim that salvation is best through the Krishna consciousness.

        • Hare Krishna Alfieadam

          There is no hypocrisy or paradox, you just need to be able to understand it. There is only one God. But there are many different countries and cultures and the purpose of the human form of life in this material world is to make spiritual advancement. So to facilitate this Krishna appears Himself or sends His representatives to all the different countries and this goes on time and time again because we are forgetful and the true knowledge gets lost in time. And when Krishna or His profit or His son appears he explains the science of God in a way that is understandable by the particular society he is speaking to and he gives them some spiritual or religious practices that are suitable for them.

          Actually all the incarnations of God and representatives of God are presenting the same message but because of the differences of culture they are preaching in the message may appear a bit different to us. Also over time the followers misunderstand the original teachings and things end up being somewhat different from what was originally presented.

          So Jesus and Mohammad are both representatives of God and are both giving the message of God to the people they are preaching to but to us it may seem that the teachings are contradictory. And there may be some differences. But you will find that the basic principles are all the same actually.

          These types of religion are presented according to the time and the place and are for specific people in a specific situation. These religions have a beginning and they will have an end also. There was no Christianity before Jesus for example and at some point in time the teachings of Jesus will be so distorted that for all practical purposes Christianity will be finished. However Krishna consciousness is different in that it is the eternal spiritual principles that never change. Krishna spoke the Bhagavad Gita five thousand years ago and it is still completely relevant today.

          Krishna is God and Jesus is the son of God and Mohammad is a prophet. So Krishna is the source and in that sense Krishna consciousness provides the ‘full picture.’ You can find some spiritual knowledge in various religions but you can find all spiritual knowledge in Krishna consciousness.

          Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

          Madhudvisa dasa

  6. indu says:

    Namaste, so are you saying that the islamic religion is not an authorized path?was it not authorized according to prabhupada?

    • Raghib says:

      Killing of Kafir whereever u find the . This surah of Quran was revealed to boost the Muslim army.

      I want to tell you that if u dont know then keep quiet . If u couldn’t understand then it is ur mistake dont spread ur illogical ideas . Open the Quran and see the following verse

      “let there be no compulsory in religion: Truth stands out clear from the error. {Al Quran2:256}

      Invite all to the way of your lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.” {Surah Nahl chapter 16, verse125)

      No every body are not kafirs. kafir tittle will be given to them who rejects them. In India or in the world there are non muslims who dont know the truth and surely they don’t reject hence, the are not the kafirs.

      I want to ask u a question if in Islam killing of Non muslim was allowed he /. There would not be a single hindu in India since muslim ruled India for 8000 years. and if he does he wouldn’t be Muslim since he was going against the hadis which says ” if you have killed a man you have killed the whole of humanity”

      • Sunil says:

        To Raghib .. stop misleading, we are not all fools. I am more then happy to argue my point of view with you.

        We quote here the entire verse under consideration:

        2.256. Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

        The next verse goes on to clarify further the limits of this “no compulsion”:

        2.257. Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein [For ever].

        It thus appears that ‘not believing’ is not an option, unless “no compulsion” means that you are free to believe or not and that the unbelievers, those who reject the true faith, are bound for hell. If one reads through the Koran, he will note that the threat of hell is an endlessly repeated theme. The unbelievers are threatened more than one hundred times with hell’s damnation in most diverse phrasing and wording.

        Moreover, it is reiterated ad nauseam that Allah and Muhammad must be obeyed. This obviously means that believers must follow all of the rules laid down for them by Allah and Mohammed in the Koran and the traditions/Hadith and of which the Koran states in 33.36 that the believer has no choice in this. All rules must be obeyed, also the wearing of the headscarf.

        All is finally made clear when we look at the context wherein verse 2.256 has been revealed. The following tradition /Hadith 14.2676 of Abu Dawood clarifies this:
        Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
        When the children of a woman (in pre-Islamic days) did not survive, she took a vow on herself that if her child survives, she would convert it to be a Jew. When the Banu an-Nadir [a Jewish tribe in Medina] were expelled (from Arabia, by Mohammed), there were some children of the Ansar (Helpers) among them [persons from Medina that were converts to Islam]. They said: We shall not leave our children. So Allah the Exalted revealed; “Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error.”
        Within the influential Koran commentary of Ibn Kathir, this is in the following link interpreted as: “you may not compel anybody to become a Muslim”. This is likewise confirmed in one of the last revealed chapters of the Koran, e.g., chapter 9 in verse 9.29, wherein it stands written that Jews and Christians who submit to the Islamic authority and pay a special poll tax (the jizya) are allowed to keep their religion. However, in the same chapter it is also written in 9.5 that this rule is not valid for the followers of other religions. They are given the option: conversion to Islam or execution.

        Today – the 21st century – this is still so stated in the Islam legal texts such as the “Reliance of the Traveller” of the Shafi’i School. We can still read this in the chapter on Jihad about Jews and Christians and about the treatment of all others.

        It should be stated that at least one other school, Hanafi, treats all non-Muslims equally and offers all of them the choice between conversion to Islam or submission to Islamic authority with payment of the special poll tax (jizya).

        “No compulsion in religion” does not mean what is generally said it means, namely that a Muslim/Moslima is free to choose at will. Or even is free to change religion. About the apostate from Islam, Mohammed proclaimed: “whoever changes his religion, slay him” (Bukhari 9.84.57).

        It does however mean that Jews and Christians must not be forced to convert to Islam. Christians and Jews do not obey Allah and Mohammed and, hence, are headed for hell. It’s their own free choice. They have been warned.

      • Subil says:

        One last thing. The Muslims in their nearly 1000 years of rule, killed over 100 million Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains. We fought against you. There is enough documented to show how determined Muslims were to destroy us, but we were mush more determined to survive.

        Also why would Godly, civilised and peaceful people want to have empire and rule over others? You ought to be a shamed of yourself.

      • NoOneKafir says:


      • NoOneKafir says:

        Koran says muslims–

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