Allah and Krishna Are The Same Person
October 24, 2000 by sumeet-chandra
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There is no meaning to religion without God and since the entire religion is build upon the idea of God so lets first look into conception of God as per Islam and Sanatan-Dharma.
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Hare Krishna
Assalam-u-alaikum
Kindly accept my obesiances unto your lotus feet.
I would like to answer your questions as per my own limited capacity and unlimited grace of Gaudiya acaryas and Sri Sri Radha-Krsna allows me.
We all know that religion is entirely centered upon conception of God. There is no meaning to religion without God and since the entire religion is build upon the idea of God so lets first look into conception of God as per Islam and Sanatan-Dharma.
“Learned transcendentalists who know the Absolute Truth call this non-dual substance brahman, paramatma, and bhagavan.”
(Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.11)
This is the Vedic conception of God. God is refered to as Absolute Truth in Vedas. This verse from Bhagavatam states that Absolute Truth is called by three different names by the transcendentalists. These three names are actually three different conceptions of the same Absolute Truth that a transcendentalists has in proportion with his spiritual realization.
>>What is Brahman?
Brahman is nothing but the impersonal spiritual effulgence which is full of dazzling light. Hence is called brahmajyoti.
Vedic literature states:
This brahmajyoti effulgence is described in detail in several mantras of the Mundaka Upanisad (2.2.10-12):
“In the spiritual realm, beyond the material covering, is the unlimited Brahman effulgence, which is free from material contamination. That effulgent white light is understood by transcendentalists to be the light of all lights. In that realm there is no need of sunshine, moonshine, fire or electricity for illumination. Indeed, whatever illumination appears in the material world is only a reflection of that supreme illumination. That Brahman is in front and in back, in the north, south, east and west, and also overhead and below. In other words, that supreme Brahman effulgence spreads throughout both the material and spiritual skies.”
Lord Krishna in Holy Gita describes this as follows-
” But those who fully worship the unmanifested, that which lies beyond the perception of the senses, the all-pervading, inconceivable, fixed and immovable–the impersonal conception of the Absolute Truth–by controlling the various senses and being equally disposed to everyone, such persons, engaged in the welfare of all, at last achieve Me. ”
(Holy Gita 12.3-4)
Now lets see what Al-Quran has to say about this:
“Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things. ”
(24.35)
” He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Immanent: and He has full knowledge of all things. ” (57.3)
“No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things. “(6.103)
Last words goes like this-
wa Huwal Latiiful-Khabiir…
Latiif means fine and subtle. He is so fine that He is imperceptible to senses. Hence no vision can grasp Him. So no one can see Him. This is certainly the description of impersonal effulgence of God.
>> What is Parmatma ?
Paramatma means “the Supreme Self” or “the Supreme Soul,” (atma means “self or soul,” and parama means “transcendental, absolute or supreme”). Usually, paramatma is translated as “the Supersoul.”
What Vedas speak about it:
” Yet in this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer who is the Lord, the supreme proprietor, who exists as the overseer and permitter, and who is known as the Supersoul. ” ( BG 13.23)
“Everywhere are His hands and legs, His eyes and faces, and He hears everything. In this way the Supersoul exists.”
” The Supersoul is the original source of all senses, yet He is without senses. He is unattached, although He is the maintainer of all living beings. He transcends the modes of nature, and at the same time He is the master of all modes of material nature.”
” The Supreme Truth exists both internally and externally, in the moving and nonmoving. He is beyond the power of the material senses to see or to know. Although far, far away, He is also near to all. ”
” Although the Supersoul appears to be divided, He is never divided. He is situated as one. Although He is the maintainer of every living entity, it is to be understood that He devours and develops all. ”
” He is the source of light in all luminous objects. He is beyond the darkness of matter and is unmanifested. He is knowledge, He is the object of knowledge, and He is the goal of knowledge. He is situated in everyone’s heart.”
(BG 13.14-18)
” I am the Self, O Gudakesa, seated in the hearts of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the end of all beings. ” (BG 10.20)
>> This Self refered to the Supersoul and not the individual soul.
“Both the Supersoul [Paramatma] and the atomic soul [jivatma] are situated on the same tree of the body within the same heart of the living being, and only one who has become free from all material desires as well as lamentations can, by the grace of the Supreme, understand the glories of the soul.” (Katha Upanisad 1.2.20).
Furthermore both the Katha Upanisad and Svetasvatara Upanisad confirm this:
“Although the two birds are in the same tree, the eating bird is fully engrossed with anxiety and moroseness as the enjoyer of the fruits of the tree. But if in some way or other he turns his face to his friend who is the Lord and knows His glories–at once the suffering bird becomes free from all anxieties.”
Now lets see what Al-Quran has to say-
Allah enters into everyone’s hearts:
“Say: “If I am astray, I only stray to the loss of my own soul: but if I receive guidance, it is because of the inspiration of my Lord to me: it is He Who hears all things, and is (ever) near.” (34.50)
“It was We Who created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein. ” (50.16)
” And He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah sees well all that ye do. “(57.4)
” But We are nearer to him than ye, and yet see not,”(56.85)
“…..He has full knowledge of the secrets of (all) hearts. “(57.6)
“………… and know that Allah cometh in between a man and his heart,……”(8.24)
>> What is Bhagavan ?
The word Bhagavan means “the person who possesses all the divine attributes or opulences (bhaga),” all wealth, all power, all fame, all beauty, all knowledge, and all renunciation to an infinite degree.
Bhagavan refers to the Personality of Godhead. According to Vedic philosophy and Al-Quran as we have seen, that God is impersonal absolute light or all-pervasive Supersoul. But both of them don’t end the description here. They continue like this:
Al-Quran:
Remember I quoted a verse 24.35 where it was written Allah is light but then it was immediately said that Allah possesses light.
Let me reproduce the relevant portion of the verse-
First part says:
Allaahu Nuurus….
Allah is light
Then it continues
Masalu Nuurihii……
Nuurihii means “His light”.
So Allah is not only light but also possesses light.
Allah has personal relationships:
He guides- (24.35)&(7.155)
He punishes- (7.156) & (8.52) (7.165) (8.16)
He protects and takes care- (2.257)(6.102)
He teaches- (2.282)
He remembers-(2.152)
Allah has personal feelings:
Allah loves-(3.159)(9.100)(9.117)
Allah reciprocates with His personal devotees- Story about the messenger of God, Joseph that Allah narrated to the Holy Prophet Mohammad.(12.4-101)
Certainly all this requires senses,mind and intelligence to be displayed hence we should at least start to think that Allah is a person also.
Allah has personal desires:
10.107,2.40-41.
Allah has personal memory:
2.152,58.7,20.52
Allah has personal features:
10.21,10.32,10.60,12.100,12.98,14.47,20.5, 22.40,22.60,4.147,40.12
Allah plays different personal parts:
2.257,3.98,10.109,11.107,12.66, 13.16, 20.114, 22.78, 33.52, 2.233,35.31,59.23,59.24,6.57
Allah has personal will:
5.17,19.35,85.16
Allah is the living one:
2.255,40.65,2.20,22.40
Allah has personal faculty of speech:
2.30,12.3
Allah has personal faculty of hearing:
2.224,24.21
Allah has personal faculty of sight:
2.233,34.11
Allah has personal identity:
51.56-57
Allah has personal knowledge:
24.35,6.59
Allah is the best person[Bhagavan]
8.30,22.58
Allah has a face:
6.52,13.22,18.28,30.38,30.39,2.115,28.88,55.26-27
Allah has hands:
39.67,38.75,3.73,67.1,48.10,5.67
Allah has an IMAGE:
16.60.
” It is He Who begins (the process of) creation; then repeats it; and for Him it is most easy. To Him belongs the loftiest similitude (we can think of) in the heavens and the earth: for He is Exalted in Might, full of wisdom. “(30.27)
So according to Holy Quran Allah has a form whcih is Absolute, Spiritual, infallible, most beautiful and transcendental to all kind of material conceptions, free from even a tinge of material contamination.
This is the form which possess light. And this is the person who knows the deepest secrets of our hearts.
Although Holy Quran just gives an idea that God ultimately possesses a form but the Vedic literature just gives more details of this form giving the specific information.
Now lets see what Vedic literature has to say:
” Krishna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.” (Brahma Samhita 1)
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati a great devotee and spiritual master write in purport to this verse-Krishna is the exalted Supreme entity having His eternal name, eternal form, eternal attribution and eternal pastimes. The very name “Krishna” implies His love-attracting designation, expressing by His eternal nomenclature the acme of entity. His eternal beautiful heavenly blue-tinged body glowing with the intensity of ever-existing knowledge has a nude in both His hands. As His inconceivable spiritual energy is all-extending, still He maintains His all-charming medium size by His qualifying spiritual instrumentals. His all-accommodating supreme subjectivity is nicely manifested in His eternal form. The concentrated all time presence, uncovered knowledge and inebriating felicity have their beauty in Him. The mundane manifestive portion of His own Self is known as all-pervading Paramatma, Isvara (Superior Lord) or Vishnu (All-fostering). Hence it is evident that Krishna is sole Supreme Godhead. His unrivaled or unique spiritual body of super excellent charm is eternally unveiled with innumerable spiritual instrumentals (senses) and unreckonable attributes keeping their signifying location properly, adjusting at the same time by His inconceivable conciliative powers. This beautiful spiritual figure is identical with Krishna and the spiritual entity of Krishna is identical with His own figure.
” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is adept in playing on His flute, with blooming eyes like lotus petals with head decked with peacock’s feather, with the figure of beauty tinged with the hue of blue clouds, and His unique loveliness charming millions of Cupids. “(BS 30)
” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, round whose neck is swinging a garland of flowers beautified with the moon-locket, whose two hands are adorned with the flute and jeweled ornaments, who always revels in pastimes of Lowe, whose graceful threefold-bending form of Syamasundara is eternally manifest. “(BS 31)
“I worship Govinda, the primeval Lords whose transcendental form is full of bliss, truth, substantiality and is thus full of the most dazzling splendor. Each of the limbs of that transcendental figure possesses in Himself, the full-fledged functions of all the organs, and eternally sees, maintains and manifests the infinite universes, both spiritual and mundane.”
(BS 32)
“I worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda [Krsna], who is the original person–absolute, infallible, without beginning. Although expanded into unlimited forms, still the same original, the oldest, and the person always appearing as a fresh youth. Such eternal, blissful, all-knowing forms of the Lord are usually understood by the best Vedic scholars, but they are always manifest to pure, unalloyed devotees.” (BS 33)
” He is an undifferentiated entity as there is no distinction between potency and the possessor thereof. In His work of creation of millions of worlds, His potency remains inseparable. All the universes exist in Him and He is present in His fullness in every one of the atoms that are scattered throughout the universe, at one and the same time. Such is the primeval Lord whom I adore. “(BS 35)
“I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is the absolute substantive principle being the ultimate entity in the form of the support of all existence whose external potency embodies the thr eefold mundane qualities, viz., sattva, rajas and tamas and diffuses the Vedic knowledge regarding the mundane world.” (BS 41)
“The Supreme Lord is the controller of all other controllers, and He is the greatest of all the diverse planetary leaders. Everyone is under His control. All entities are delegated with particular power only by the Supreme Lord; they are not supreme themselves. He is also worshipable by all demigods and is the supreme director of all directors. Therefore, He is transcendental to all kinds of material leaders and controllers and is worshipable by all. There is no one greater than Him, and He is the supreme cause of all causes.”
“He does not possess bodily form like that of an ordinary living entity. There is no difference between His body and His soul. He is absolute. All His senses are transcendental. Any one of His senses can perform the action of any other sense. Therefore, no one is greater than Him or equal to Him. His potencies are multifarious, and thus His deeds are automatically performed as a natural sequence.” (Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.7-8)
Again in the svetasvatra Upanisad
“In the material world Brahma, the primeval living entity within the universe, is understood to be the supreme amongst the demigods, human beings and lower animals. But beyond Brahma there is the Transcendence who has no material form and is free from all material contaminations. Anyone who can know Him also becomes transcendental, but those who do not know Him suffer the miseries of the material world.”
“I know that Supreme Personality of Godhead who is transcendental to all material conceptions of darkness. Only he who knows Him can transcend the bonds of birth and death. There is no way for liberation other than this knowledge of that Supreme Person.
“There is no truth superior to that Supreme Person because He is the supermost. He is smaller than the smallest, and He is greater than the greatest. He is situated as a silent tree, and He illumines the transcendental sky, and as a tree spreads its roots, He spreads His extensive energies.” Svetasvatara Upanisad(3.8-9)
“I offer my respectful obeisances to Sri Krishna, whose form is eternal and full of knowledge and bliss, who is the rescuer from distress, who is understood by Vedanta, who is the supreme spiritual master, and who is the witness in everyone’s heart.”(Gopal Tapani Upanisad 1.1)
” One should meditate upon the Supreme Person as the one who knows everything, as He who is the oldest, who is the controller, who is smaller than the smallest, who is the maintainer of everything, who is beyond all material conception, who is inconceivable, and who is always a person. He is luminous like the sun and, being transcendental, is beyond this material nature. “(BG 8.9)
Visnu Purana(1.9.69):
“Whoever comes before You, be he a demigod, is created by You, O Supreme Personality of Godhead.”
” Although fixed in His abode, the Personality of Godhead is swifter than the mind and can overcome all others running. The powerful demigods cannot approach Him. Although in one place, He controls those who supply the air and rain. He surpasses all in excellence.” (Isopanisad 4)
“The Supreme Lord walks and does not walk. He is far away, but He is very near as well. He is within everything, and yet He is outside of everything.”(Isopanisad 5)
“Such a person must factually know the greatest of all, the Personality of Godhead, who is unembodied, omniscient, beyond reproach, without veins, pure and uncontaminated, the self-sufficient philosopher who has been fulfilling everyone’s desire since time immemorial. ”
(Isopanisad 
Srila Prabhupada writes in His purport to the above verse-
Here is a description of the transcendental and eternal form of the Absolute Personality of Godhead. The Supreme Lord is not formless. He has His own transcendental form, which is not at all similar to the forms of the mundane world. The forms of the living entities in this world are embodied in material nature, and they work like any material machine. The anatomy of a material body must have a mechanical construction with veins and so forth, but the transcendental body of the Supreme Lord has nothing like veins. It is clearly stated here that He is un-embodied, which means that there is no difference between His body and His soul. Nor is He forced to accept a body according to the laws of nature, as we are. In materially conditioned life, the soul is different from the gross embodiment and subtle mind. For the Supreme Lord, however, there is never any such difference between Him and His body and mind. He is the Complete Whole, and His mind, body and He Himself are all one and the same.
These are the few verses from the Vedic literature that describes the Transcendental form of Person of God.
So we see that Al-quran tells that Allah is light and Vedic literature confirms this as well. Then we see that Al-Quran says Allah possesses light. Similarly Vedic scripture says:
“And I am the basis of the impersonal Brahman, which is the constitutional position of ultimate happiness, and which is immortal, imperishable and eternal. ”
(BG 14.27)
Here Lord Krishna says that the all pervading dazzling impersonal spiritual effulgence is nothing but glow of Transcendental Personality. So Allah or Krishna’s Transcendental Personality’s glow constitutes impersonal Brahman.
This is further verified in Brahma Samhita:
” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose effulgence is the source of the nondifferentiated Brahman mentioned in the Upanisads, being differentiated from the infinity of glories of the mundane universe appears as the indivisible, infinite, limitless, truth.”(Text 40)
” O my Lord, sustainer of all that lives, Your real face is covered by Your dazzling effulgence. Kindly remove that covering and exhibit Yourself to Your pure devotee. ”
(Isopanisad 15)
In the prayers of Kunti in the Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.8.18) it is said that the Lord is covered by the curtain of yoga-maya and thus ordinary people cannot understand Him. Kunti prays: “O my Lord, You are the maintainer of the entire universe, and devotional service to You is the highest religious principle. Therefore, I pray that You will also maintain me. Your transcendental form is covered by the yoga-maya. The brahmajyoti is the covering of the internal potency. May You kindly remove this glowing effulgence that impedes my seeing Your sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, Your eternal form of bliss and knowledge.”
As Allah’s Nur is the light of all luminaries similarly it has been stated by
Vedic literature that Krishna’s effulgence is light of all lights as verified in the verses from upanisads and Gita stated above.
So now we can safely conclude that God is a Person, Supreme Person possesing transcendental body which is knowledge absolute, never subjected to decay, always youthful. This body is absolute as there is no difference between the mind, body and spirit. Everything in connection with Him is Absolute spirit.
Now lets consider Parmatma. Although Al-Quran states that this very same transcendental form is present in everyone’s heart as the Supersoul Vedic literature talks about this Supersoul as the plenary expansion of the Transcendental personality of Supreme which dwells in all living entities.
In the Narada-pancaratra this is confirmed in this way:
“By concentrating one’s attention on the transcendental form of Krsna, who is all-pervading and beyond time and space, one becomes absorbed in thinking of Krsna and then attains the happy state of transcendental association with Him.”
Krsna consciousness is the highest stage of trance in yoga practice. This very understanding that Krsna is present as Paramatma in everyone’s heart makes the yogi faultless. The Vedas confirm this inconceivable potency of the Lord as follows:
“Visnu is one, and yet He is certainly all-pervading. By His inconceivable potency, in spite of His one form, He is present everywhere. As the sun, He appears in many places at once.”
So although being one without a second the very same transcendental personality appears in the innumerable hearts as many just as one sun appears in many places at once. He is able to do this by dint of His inconcievable potency and since His personality is beyond space and time He can expand Himself into another form and yet remain the same person manifested differently in various forms:
Although Al-Quran covers information regarding God but Vedas goes in Detail explaining that very same personality of Go has expanded Himself into infinite number of forms-
“The one Supreme Personality of Godhead is eternally engaged in many, many transcendental forms in relationships with His unalloyed devotees.”
(Puruso-bodhini upanisad)
“The light of one candle being communicated to other candles, although it burns separately in them, is the same in its quality. I adore the primeval Lord Govinda who exhibits Himself equally in the same mobile manner in His various manifestations.”(Brahma Samhita text 46)
One must understand that Personality of Supreme who is known as Krishna, Allah…
is beyond space and time, uncontaminated, self-effulgent and absolute. When He exhibits Himself in innumerable forms then it is not that He has divided His one form into infinite pieces but each and every form is that same absolute truth Himself. They are all one and same. The example of vaidurya stone is given in this regards. This stone remains the same yet changes it’s color. Hence Personality of God remains the same yet manifests infinitely different appearnces. This It is not that one form is a seperate person than other; they are all one and the same Supreme Personality just differently manifested. For us due to our conditioned existence it is very difficult to understand that how can God who is one without a second remain same absolute while simultaneously exhibit infinte number of forms. The answer is that He has inconcievable transcendental energy through which He expands Himself[His person] into different forms yet remain the same. Note He has expanded Himself into innumerable forms and not divided Himself into innumerable forms. Therefore He is God Himself in any of His form. Logically thinking since Supreme is an unlimited Person therefore it is sensible to accept that He possesses infinite number of forms. There is no limit to Him in any respect. Just as He has inifinite number of names He possesses infinite forms. Supreme Lord Krishna states this as follows:
“Lord Krishna says: There are others, who are purified and cultured souls, who by understanding my different forms as myself, as one personality in various forms and features, worship me according to their spiritual understanding and convictions following the rules of worship as given in the Vedas.”
But originally the form of God is that which resembles Lord Krishna transcendental triple bending form. These forms of one and same Supreme Lord Krishna are identical with person of Lord Rama, Lord Vishnu. Not Lord Shiva or Lord Brahma. What is the state of Lord Brahma in comparison to Lord Krishna is spoken by Lord Brahma Himself:
http://www.bhagavadgita.org/Incarnations/incarnation-61.html
So now you must be convinced that Al-Quran when refers to Allah is only refering to the person Krishna Himself. Certainly there cannot be two different person with same description and paraphernalia.
Further more look at another amazing similarity—
“(We take our)Color from Allah. Who is better than Allah at coloring?”(2.138)
Sibgat the root meaning of this word is color. Allah possesses beautiful dark color.
Actually Allah being the source of everything it is no wonder that some color of this material world should resemble His.
Although His color is not material which I shall explain in a moment. From the above verse if Arabs analogously resembles the color of God then we can safely conclude that color of God is a beautiful dark complexion. But God has been described as full of dazzling effulgence and no dark color in this world is dazzling. This seems contradictory. Actually there is no contradiction if we realize that this dark color of Allah is spiritual but not material. Being a spiritual color it is transcendental to perception and mind and can afford to throw out flashing effulgence. Similarly Krishna is famous as syamsundara or one whose complexion is darkish but at the same time is full of most dazzling splendor. See this verse:
” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is Syamasundara, Krishna Himself with inconceivable innumerable attributes, whom the pure devotees see in their heart of hearts with the eye of devotion tinged with the salve of love.” (Brahma Samhita 38)
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta saraswati writesin the purport to this verse-
The Syamasundara form of Krishna is His inconceivable simultaneous personal and impersonal self-contradictory form. True devotees see the form in their purified hearts under the influence of devotional trance. The form Syama is not the blue color visible in the mundane world but is the transcendental variegated color affording eternal bliss, and is not visible to the mortal eye. On a consideration of the trance of Vyasadeva as in the sloka, bhakti-yogena manasi etc., it will be clear that the form of Sri Krishna is the full Personality of Godhead and can only be visible in the heart of a true devotee, which is the only true seat in the state of trance under the influence of devotion. When Krishna manifested Himself in Vraja, both the devotees and non- devotees saw Him with this very eye; but only the devotees cherished Him, eternally present in Vraja, as the priceless jewel of their heart. Nowadays also the devotees see Him in Vraja in their hearts, saturated with devotion although they do not see Him with their eyes. The eye of devotion is nothing but the eye of the pure unalloyed spiritual self of the Jiva. The form of Krishna is visible to that eye in proportion to its purification by the practice of devotion. When the devotion of the neophyte reaches the stage of bhava-bhakti the pure eye of that devotee is tinged with the salve of love by the grace of Krishna, which enables him to see Krishna face to face. The phrase “in their hearts” means Krishna is visible in proportion as their hearts are purified by the practice of devotion. The sum and substance of this sloka is that the form of Krishna, who is Syamasundara, Natavara (Best Dancer), Muralidhara (Holder of the Flutes) and Tribhanga (Triple-bending), is not a mental concoction but is transcendental, and is visible with the eye of the soul of the devotee under trance.
Hence the Brahman just being the transcendental effulgence of spiritual body of Lord represents Absolute Truth partially. Parmatma being plenary expansion of the very spiritual absolute form of Lord is a partial representation of Supreme Personality situated in everyone’s heart. Highest conception therefore of Absolute truth is Supreme Person who contains the infinite formless magnitude in His form as His own spiritual energy and expands Himself as Superself in everyone. So it is the Personality of Godhead who makes Himself partially represented by all pervading effulgence being rays of His spiritual body and hence nondifferent from His very person just like Sun rays being emanation from sun are nondifferent from the sun planet itself. Then this same person makes Himself partially present in everyone’s heart as the supersoul. So it is the Bhagavan who is both origin of brahman and Parmatma who is to be worhsipped. One should not think here that Absolute truth is has equally divided itself in the form of Brahman,parmatma and bhagavan. But rather Absolute truth is only Bhagavan Himself. Parmatma on virtue of being partial representation of that Absolute truth Bhagavan is partial representation of Absolute truth and similarly the dazzling effulgence being a spiritual energy of Absolute truth is a partial representation of it only. Only Bhagavan who is Absolute Truth itself is the complete perfection and complete manifestation of Absolute Truth possessing superexcellently beautiful form. Since this form is unrivaled and incomparable and other than whom no truth exists is called Allah due to this reason. Because this very form of the Supreme Person is full in all opulences unto infinite degree it is called Krishna meaning the All-attractive one. Vedas further argue that anyname to belong to Supreme Lord must be indicated by the word Krishna otheriwse it doesn’t belongs to the absolute truth. The reason is that since the word krishna means all-attractive one and any name of God irrespective of the language, culture etc.. always attracts in one or the other way. The basic nature of each and every name of God is that it attracts one or in other word that it is indicated by krishna.
Bhagavan is thus the personal God aspired to and worshiped by the devotees of monotheistic religions like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam and Hinduism.
SO MY DEAR BROTHER MUHAMMAD I HUMBLY REQUEST AT YOUR LOTUS FEET THAT YOU AT LEAST START TO THINK OF THE SIMILARITY IN THE PERSON OF ALLAH AND KRISHNA AS DESCRIBED IN AL-QURAN AND VEDIC LITERATURE YOUR DOUBTS WILL AUTOMATICALLY MELT AWAY AND YOU WOULD KNOW THE CORRECT WAY INSHALLAH!!!!!
Towards the end I beg for mercy and forgiveness if I have knowingly or unknowingly hurt anyone’s sentiments. I being a servant of all servants of Krishna accept all religions that professes love unto Supreme as the only way for perfect liberation bonafide.
All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga
Your Servant Always
OM TAT SAT
Sumeet.
See also: Questions From A Muslim With Answers From Khan
Allah, Jehovah, et al, are not the same as Krishna!
Allah was a lunar deity.
Jehovah was a desert deity.
Both claim to be the Supreme. They are imposters, bragging about how jealous or violent they are.
But Krishna is Svayam Bhagavan, beyond “God”, beyond the “Godhead”.
Anyone can claim to be God, but there are imposters.
yes you are right .. Allah Jehovah Yahweh etc all means the lord the God almighty . the Lord whose form is not known to us… but krishna was not that .Allah is never krishna. sree krishna is a human. may be with special powers but not Allah. man may have magical powers but never becomes the god almighty. if human with such powers can turn human into a God then almost all the prophets all Allah are God(naujubillah).
Dear Sadmim..
Lord’s form is not known to us ?? Why ? because we are sinners !
Sree Krishna was not a human,He was the direct manifestation of God the Creator. !!
Adam was normal human being,how was He able to see God ?
Didnt you read from Sahih Islam and Bukhari that God made Adam in His own Form.
Dont you know from the Quran that God has eyes,hand,face,personality etc etc..
Your knowledge is poor .and thats why you say Krsna is not God..
While displaying past time on Earth.,He is simultaneously present in the heart of all living beings as the Paramathma( Super Soul ) .This Supersoul is always guiding us to the right path ,but when we eat meat from animal our judgement and guidances are swayed..He,Krsna is also simultaneously present in the Highest heaven ..God is Omnipresent ( Quran teaches you this)..
Therefore its not surprising that you are unable to understand Krsna is God.
Quran advises, ” Man should not have sex with one’s mother” .
Quran is a simplified cathechism for the fallen arabic bedouins,dont expect it to carry the ultimate truth !!
And Krsna was never a prophet,He is God Himself.
bismillah…rabbis rahli sadi wa yassirli amri wah lul uqdatan millisani yaf qahu qauli.
dear brother raj.i am happy that at least one answered me and gave me a chance to speak.you may be true that i may not have a great knowledge. but alhamdulillah i have at least the knowledge the to understand what is truth &what is false.
lets come to the point .you said that krishna is the cherisher .Allah sais in the Quran:praise to be Allah, the cherisher & sustainer of the worlds)
(Quran:1:1)
for your question about Adam(as)in the form of Allah.log here: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547284
you said that Allah got eyes,hands,face etc.yes its true.in the noble Quran we can see that .but dose those need to be like ours.look at lion it got 4 feet, human 2 feet,duck(n other birds) 2 feet.but none match with each other.
now please tell me how you will answer these questions.may be i am a sinner.i tell you i am no holy man. every man sinned.and also krishna.
look at your scriptures:
“Ekam evadvitiyam”
“He is One only without a second.”
[Chandogya Upanishads 6:2:1]
Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah.”
“Of Him there are neither parents nor lord.”
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]
“Na tasya pratima asti”
“There is no likeness of Him.”
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]
“Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam.”
“His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]
na tasya pratima asti
“There is no image of Him.”[Yajurveda 32:3]
“shudhama poapvidham”
“He is bodyless and pure.[Yajurveda 40:8]
“Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata”
“O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone.” [Rigveda 8:1:1]
“Na tasya pratima asti”
“There is no likeness of Him”Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.
“Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.”
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
(God is omnipresent) i think your great knowledge did not understood that Allah is not every where but he sees and hears all.(Quran:42:11).you may say in the quran or ahadith you can find about that God is here or there,well it means God is hearing and seeing you like he is there,in spiritually not physically.like think you are in UK but using Google earth u can c in India or Bangladesh live.but ur need not to be in India or B.desh. when a man can do it whit the help of science why Allah cant do it(He need not any Google/or internet or any thing or other persons help)He is the most powerful of all.
you said that krishna was there when there was nothing.but according to hinduism there were 3 gods at that time. they are Brahma ,Vishnu,shiv,their power are same.krishna is known as a mighty incarnation of vishnu.here u’ll c Krishna is the most mighty but another place u will c the Brahma again another place shiv.again u’ll c none of them are the most powerful. in the sri sri chandi it is durga who was there when there was nothing.so who was 1st durga or the 3 shaktis(Brahma,shiv,Vishnu).
i will b waiting 4ur answer.you say Quran cant carry the ultimate truth.for your great knowledge a small information Quran was not reviled to any Bedouin but the whole world. Muhammad(sa) was born in the highest and(very much like)the royal family of Arab. Allah says in the Quran”This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear God; “(Quran:2:2)
again Allah said:”No falsehood can approach it(Quran) from before or behind it: It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.” (Quran:41:42)
again:”That which We have revealed to thee of the Book is the Truth,- confirming what was (revealed) before it: for God is assuredly- with respect to His Servants - well acquainted and Fully Observant.”(Quran:35:31).so i think you got the answers.
wa akirudawa al hamdulillahi rabiil alamin.
Dear
I did saw the link which you had posted.Allah is like nobody but at the same time sahih islam explains that Allah made Adam in His own shape.
You are ignorant of the fact that this is a material world which is dying and decaying everyday,Vedas teach that it is direct reflection of the spiritual world whic is glowing every moment and does not decay..
This is logic..
Even in the quran,,..is is explained that Allah uses throne,has eyes,has face,hands.
And Also it has been said that Jesus sits in the right hand side of Allah.Therefore..,
What takes it very difficult for you to accept that the forms and shapes which we all have are the templates of the Grand Copy up there in the Heaven known as the Supreme God.
This show that your knowledge and thinkings are too restricted .
Yes its true in the Quran its explained that “Allah is none like anyone ”
For example..if Mr.A is genious,brave,handsome,richest,healthiest..
therefore its logic to say he ( Mr X ) is like nobody,because he is specially gifted and outstanding !!
If i say Mr.X is like nobody..does it mean that his look and appearance are unknown and does not resembles human ??
Surely you yourself will not agree.. !!
Same concept here- no any life form on earth is like the great MahaVishnu ( the immediate expansion of Krsna) .
His one tiny skin pore is much larger than the size of a universe.Vedas teach that multiple universes appear from His body ( skin holes ).
Later cosmologist prove that universes appear from white holes and absorbed back into “Black holes”.
Therefore what the Quran and Bible teach that God made Adam in His own form is the Truth.
God has the original form,ours are duplicate or degraded..
Thats what meant by ” Nobody is Like Allah”.
And Quran didnt say that Allah and human are of different shape and form. !!!!!!!!!!!
Realize the Absolute Truth ( sanathana dharma) and open your eyes and heart.
Bismillah… rabbis rahli sadri wa wassirli amri wahlul wkdatam milliani wafqahu qauli…..
Dear raj,
I am sure that you have n’t seen the link seriously .if you would have then you won’t write about this… it is clearly written that the Hadith that says Allah created Adam (as) in his shape is very weak… that means it’s not sahih Hadith… you said my knowledge is restricted (bla bla bla)…. You don’t know the knowledge that my Lord gave me nighter you know the knowledge that is given to you what we can is just argue and it’s not our main fact so keep that a side.
I totally agree with you with the logic of Mr. X for sake of argument. But you or I are not God and He is different from us.
You said that in the noble Quran Allah have hands, eyes and face. Show me where did I say that He has not got.
And you said, “Jesus (as) sits in the right hand side of Allah.” First of all it’s not from the holy Quran. It’s from the bible.
It’s written in the gospel of mark: 16:19. But do you know that bible is corrupted. We Muslims believe that. Then you may say why you muslins say that bible is the word of Allah? Bible is not the word that was reveled. But those facts that are closer to Islam are closer to the truth because the followers (Jews and Christians) have changed it for their benefit of this world not for the hereafter. Secondly if you really want to believe in this verse I won’t say not to believe because it’s not one of them. (As per as I know). But most of the people mistakes to realize the original meaning like you did. The writer did not show him sitting there. The original meaning is that “he was one of the righteous person and one of the special person to Allah”.
You said about the example of Mr. X. now here listen, Allah does not look like us. Previously I told you lions, birds, man all got feet, faces and bodies. But none match with others.
The Hadith you told me that was, “God created Adam (as) in his own image”. Look carefully it’s his not His. Most of the translators mistook to translate the Hadith. The meaning of the Hadith is Adam (as) was created as an adult not as a child. But most of people will say that it’s His. If you say so then to reply the question the scholars say “if it really is “His” by the meaning of image is not the exactly the same because Allah said that “there is nothing like Him”. So it the meaning will be ‘the attributes of Allah’”. This means Allah gave Adam (as) the attributes of Him not His image (because there is none like Him; image, beauty, wealth, health anything). He is not like us. Now how does Allah look? The only answer is: Allah knows best.
You may say the bible also teaches that Adam (as) is made in the image of Allah. Yes in the book of Genesis: 1: 27. That says so “God created human beings, making them to be like himself. He created male and female,” . Now you may say that see it is what I said. Your reply is given in the previous verse. “Then God said, “And now we will make human beings; they will be like us. They will have power over the fish, the birds, and all animals, domestic and wild, large and small.””.
Here you can easily see that like “Us” or “like God” means the attributes not the image.
And if you look carefully you will find that it’s written “like himself” not “like Himself”
You said that Quran didn’t say that Allah & human are of different shape & form!!!!!!
Yes as per as I know He did not nighter He did say that He and we have the same form and shape.
Realize the Absolute truth (Sanatan Dharma; the absolute religion which is Islam) open your eyes & heart. May Allah show you the true path, the path of Islam. (Amen). Wa akhiruddawa alhamdulillahir rabbil alameen…
Who is the main God different people says about the God some people says allah is the main God some are telling Krishna is the main God and othere are telling other but krishna is the main god allah krishna ram Jesus and other are the forms of the krishna krishna came in the world different different forms . He is the main god amd he is the pure god we are also the form of the krishna . krishna is the absulate truth.
Hare Krishna! God is one person. People call Him by different names but they are calling out to the same person. It is the same Krishna that the Christians are calling “God” and the Muslims are calling “Allah.” So it is the same absolute truth.
It is not that worshipping Krishna is worshipping the Absolute Truth and worshipping the God that Jesus is speaking of is not. No. Worshiping the God of the Bible is worshipping Krishna, the same God, the same Absloute Truth.
In India the people know about demigods like Durga, Kali, Indra, Chandra, Brahma, etc., and some people are worshipping these demigods. But these demigods are not Krishna, they are individual spirit souls like you or me but they are very advanced and have been elevated to positions of great responsibility within the universe.
These demigods are in charge of various departments of the material world and, with the sanction of Krishna, they can give their worshippers benedictions limited to their area of responsibility or power in the material world. That is why it is sometimes said in India there are 33 million gods and for a particular purpose the people select a particular god to worship to get that benediction. And this is done in India by less intelligent people who do not realize that ultimately all these demigods are subordinate to Krishna and the demigods can not give their followers any benedictions unless they are sanctioned by Krishna. Actually any benediction that can be had from the demigods can be had from Krishna directly.
In Bhagavad Gita Krishna criticises the demigod worshippers and says they have “little intelligence.” Because they can not see that whatever they want they can get it by worshipping Krishna, but instead they go through all these difficult worship processes to satisfy demigods who have very little power and only have power to give material benedictions within the material world and who can never give one liberation from the material world because the demigods themselves are also conditioned souls trapped within the material world.
From Srila Prabhupada’s Introduction to Bhagavad Gita As It Is:
“Those whose minds are distorted by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.” (Bg. 7.20) Here it is plainly said that those who are directed by lust worship the demigods and not the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṇa. When we mention the name Kṛṣṇa, we do not refer to any sectarian name. Kṛṣṇa means the highest pleasure, and it is confirmed that the Supreme Lord is the reservoir or storehouse of all pleasure. We are all hankering after pleasure. Ānandamayo ‘bhyāsāt. (Vs. 1.1.12) The living entities, like the Lord, are full of consciousness, and they are after happiness. The Lord is perpetually happy, and if the living entities associate with the Lord, cooperate with Him and take part in His association, then they also become happy.
hi madhuvisa Hare Krishna.
just wanted to say that it is better to turn to the demigods for material boons, cause Krishna will never give you any material boons if you worship Him.
Hare Krishna Indu
Krishna will give whatever you want if you worship Him.
The demigods can not give you anything unless Krishna authorizes it.
So whatever you want it is better to ask Krishna for it. That is the most intelligent thing to do. The worshippers of the demigods are fools.
krishna and allha are same person?
Hare Krishna!
All Glories to Shrilla Prabhuphada!
As you can see it is a terrible sin to call Krishna and Allah the same person. Allah condones Cow slaughter as is seen in Surah (Chapter) 16:5 which is the greatest sin and can only be condoned by the Devil. Krishna is known as Govinda which means lover of the cows. Cows are the most spiritual and intimate animals and Krishna loves them. Krishna does not condone any animal slaughter and cow slaughter is the greatest sin of all animal slaughter. Before Krishna.org publishes these articles I think they should first try to understand the implications of what they are saying. Krishna will not accept the sacrifice of any meat, and most assuredly not cows. Shrilla Prabhuphada has said that Krishna does not accept meat ever period! But he does say that the Vedas were made for all classes of people so that the Sinful Rakshas and Yavanas, and Demons who do eat meat can do so by sacrificing their meat to the Demigod Kali. Shrilla Prabhuphada said this, that if a sinful person cannot give up meat he is advised to worship Kali because Krishna will not accept this. Since in Islam all meat has to be invoked in the name of Allah in order for it to be Hallal, we know that Allah can’t be Krishna because you cannot give meat to Krishna. So maybe Alllah can be the demigod Kali, but not Krishna. Kali is not Krishna but a mere demigod and servant of Krishna. So Allah is not Krishna. Please tell me why any sane Krishna Conscious person would ever even think Allah is Krishna after reading what I have just wrote which are from the teachings of Shrilla Prabhuphada. And besides this Shrilla Prabhuphada never advocated meat eating and said it is advised for meat eaters to eat lesser animals if they can’t give up their sins. But never is it advised to eat cows like the Quran says. Even Kali won’t accept this. You can sacrifice a goat to Kali, but not a Cow, the most sacred animal! Thus Allah is just a Devil! Krishna said in the Age of Kali-Yuga there would be many demoniac religions which most of the population of the world will take to. Kali Yuga started on 3102 BC so Islam definitely fits as a Kali-Yugan religion. Shrilla Prabhuphada described it as the religion of the Yavanas.
Hare Krishna!
asslaamalekum
Ambiarsa Dasa
1. u said that we can kill any smallerr animal but not the cow ,how can u say that when Hinduism say that all living beings are ssame.
2.in islam it is not there that eating meat is compulsory,it depends on the place what u can get.
3.u should know that plants also have life and soul then what do u eat (veg or non veg).
4. do u know our teeth are capable of chewing both veg and nonveg.
5. if u eat meat it can be digested,but if we eat grass or plant we cant digest it(got my point).
6.u said that krishna is the only god then why the whole hindus are confused of god,some say siva is god,some brahma etc.who is god in hinduism.
7.if the all are not gods then why there is a quarrel between devotees of vishnu and siva in ancient hindu scripts.
8.do u know Shrilla Prabhuphada started his organisation in USA.what happene in india of 900 million hindus?
9.u compared allah as devil,in quran allah never said to kill others ,it is there to harm people who wanna harm u. u cant blame islam because some of muslims are doing the nonsense things.
10.u said that kali is a servent of krishna , if krishna is a god then i dont think that god allow demigod to accept sacrifice.
11. that is called ecological balance.u see if all animals are left with out killing (even they are ment to for food) then their population will be far greater that the worlds population.
if u want to know a religion dont see what the people of the religion do(some may be wrong) simply reed the books(that may be any religion) and accept the best.
after reading this if U have any doubts please read holy quan.
may allah forgive all u r sins and guide u to right path.
like to hear from u
allah hafiz
dear Hafiz..The right path has already been explained in the Githa.
i advise you the same,..
” if u want to know a religion dont see what the people of the religion do(some may be wrong) simply reed the books(that may be any religion) and accept the best.”
You must understand that quran is not designed for the entire humanity .
You may recommend it for the prisonners,criminals etc.
Our flat teeth are perfect for grinding grains and vegetables,not for tearing apart animal flesh.Similarly our hands are designed for gathering and not for flesh ripping.Our saliva contains the enzyme alpha amylase,which functions to digest only complex carbohydrate of plants..this enzyme is not found in the enzymes of carnivores,basically we all have the right apparatus to digest vegetables but not for the sinful meat..
Awake.realize the true religion
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Beef consumption is rising rapidly, both as population increases and as people eat more meat.
Producing the annual beef diet of the average American emits as much greenhouse gas as a car driven more than 1,800 miles.
Read more about the evil of meat eating.( Crime against Creation)
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Most of us are aware that our cars, our coal-generated electric power and even our cement factories adversely affect the environment. Until recently, however, the foods we eat had gotten a pass in the discussion. Yet according to a 2006 report by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), our diets and, specifically, the meat in them cause more greenhouse gases carbon dioxide (CO2), methane, nitrous oxide, and the like to spew into the atmosphere than either transportation or industry. (Greenhouse gases trap solar energy, thereby warming the earth’s surface. Because gases vary in greenhouse potency, every greenhouse gas is usually expressed as an amount of CO2 with the same global-warming potential.)
The FAO report found that current production levels of meat contribute between 14 and 22 percent of the 36 billion tons of “CO2-equivalent” greenhouse gases the world produces every year. It turns out that producing half a pound of hamburger for someone’s lunch a patty of meat the size of two decks of cards releases as much greenhouse gas into the atmosphere as driving a 3,000-pound car nearly 10 miles.
Allah tells people to kill cows and eat beef in the Quran Surah 16:5
Here is the proof below in the link
http://www.quran.com/16/5
Yeah Krishna (Govinda) is Allah. Govinda must mean killer of cows if Krishna is Allah because Allah tells people to eat the meat of cows which is the worst imaginable sin. Anyone who demands people eat cows must be Satan the Devil. Therefore Allah is not Krishna but Satan.
assalamalekum
Ambiarsa Dasa
the problem is you dont understand what i said.
how can you say that killing and eating other animals instead cow is OK.
i said that animals which are meant for food can be used for food and what quran said it is not specially cow, you got my point?
you said killing other animals is less sin than killing cow ,think once for yourself (you said less sin,SIN IS A SIN THERE IS NO LESS OR MORE SIN)
for example if you would be in a county where vegetation is less then what do u do dont u depend on other animals.
you must know that boiler hens are only for their meat they cant give eggs.
and again u didnt read my previous answer that cows feel pain when we collect milk and all of us are using milk in our daily life.
if you say that is also sin i dont drink milk that is meaningless
may allah forgive all u r sins and guide u to right path.
allah hafiz
Actually the concept of God in Quran has been copied/plagiarized from many sources including Githa.You can find in quran stories/events already explained in Buddhist and Zoroastrian texts..
Muhammad did a wide scope of plagiarization from numerous religious sources,thats why we see the description of Allah resembles Lord Krsna.
The Quran teaches ” you should not have sex with your mother” .
This clearly proves that the islamist claim Quran is for the entire humanity is an absolute lie,unless if the entire globe population undergoes a biological evolution so as to have intimacy with one’s own mother !
In the prayers of Kunti in the Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.8.18) it is said that the Lord is covered by the curtain of yoga-maya and thus ordinary people cannot understand Him. Kunti prays: “O my Lord, You are the maintainer of the entire universe, and devotional service to You is the highest religious principle. Therefore, I pray that You will also maintain me. Your transcendental form is covered by the yoga-maya. The brahmajyoti is the covering of the internal potency. May You kindly remove this glowing effulgence that impedes my seeing Your sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, Your eternal form of bliss and knowledge.”
“Visnu is one, and yet He is certainly all-pervading. By His inconceivable potency, in spite of His one form, He is present everywhere. As the sun, He appears in many places at once.”
So although being one without a second the very same transcendental personality appears in the innumerable hearts as many just as one sun appears in many places at once. He is able to do this by dint of His inconcievable potency and since His personality is beyond space and time He can expand Himself into another form and yet remain the same person manifested differently in various forms:
Allah is nearer than our jugular vein.( Quran)
Compare with this,
” The Paramathma( Supersoul) exists both internally and externally, in the moving and nonmoving. He is beyond the power of the material senses to see or to know. Although far, far away, He is also near to all. ”
Im an ex muslim. i can relate completely with the information shared here. Krishna is not a man. He is the Supreme personality of Godhead. Muslims believe God cannot come to earth etc. Well actually God can do anything he he wants to. And if he wants to take the form of a man then he can do so. Actually when God takes the form of a man his form is not like ours. It is just a form so we dont freak our when we see him. His colour is not like ours, Krishna is dark bluish colour similar to that of a dark monsoon cloud. With his many appearances he made on earth he never reveals that he is God but only to his pure devotees. Krishna in the form of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu came 500 years ago and had a golden complexion. that is because he is Krishna and Radha and Rhadarani has a golden complexion.
Yes Krishna has parents. Actually he has infinite parents. This is the nature of the highest heaven. Muslims call it Jannatul Firdous, Vaisnavas call it Goloka Vrindavan. when you die and take birth in the highest heaven you will find that nobody sees God as the Supreme. that everyone relates to him as a friend, brother, neighbor, guru, deciple, mother, father, child, etc. which ever way your heart desires to relate to Krishna, that is how it will be. and there for krishna has infinite mothers, fathers, etc.
When Krishna took birth in the material world his birth was not like ours. He eminated from the heart of Devaki. He allowed this so that Devaki can do this service for krishna. There are many ways Krishna allows his devotees to do service for him. Mother yashoda is the mother of lord krishna as a service to Him. Krishna does not need a mother, but allows it so that people can relate to him. And to have a relationship so personal with the lord can surely melt the heart and maintain your love and devotion for the lord. God loves it when we do service for him.
Krishna’s brother is not a biological brother, Balaram is actually an expansion of lord krishna. because that is the nature of God, he can expand himself infintely. Balaram played the role of his brother in many of his pastimes. When Krishna took the form of Lord Chaitanya 500 years ago, Balaram took the from of Lord Nityananda. They are both the same person and yet two different persons at the same time.
other expansions of Sri Krishna are Vishnu, Nrishnimhadeva, Rhadarani, Lord Jagganath, even Buddha was an indirect expansion of the lord, and there are infinite expansions, such as the forms mentioned in the koran. This is the power of the lord. he can be many places at the same time.. for example, Krishna came to earth, but at the same time Krishna never leaves goloka Vrindavan.
Krishna is the supreme personality above all other personalities. His name might consist of a bunch of material letters but the Vibration is Trancendental. chanting the name of the lord can increase your love for him.
The Bhavisia Puranas (which forms part of Vedic scriptures) speaks about the coming of Muhammed and Jesus, and all the other prophets. in these stories Krishna doesnt take birth but sends empowered souls to do the tasks. which is great, because the vedas is not against islamic belief. My ever well wisher and guru Srila Prabhupada admired muslims. The Vedas brings religions together, where as in modern times religions separates people. The vedas says there will come a time when everyone will unite under one banner of faith, we will take shelter under the shadow of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Remember when God takes a form, he is not like us. And his forms are infinite. but there is one supreme form, and that is the form of Lord krishna. this is the Form he takes in goloka Vrindavan, the highest heaven. this is also where Muhammed went on the night of Miraj when he saw allah. i ask all muslims what did he see? Allah tells muhammed that there are somethings he should share with his umma and others that he shouldnt. And one thing muhammed held back was the form of the Supreme Lord. People were into idol worship those days and would thus see the lord as a person if they knew th lord has a form.
what we as vaisnavas do is not idol worship, but deity worship. the deity is a mercy from Sri Krishna for us fallen souls who does not have the spiritual eye to see and comprehend the form of the lord. We are fallen souls, after we get liberated and take birth in the spiritual world, we will see Krishna in his true form.
There arent separate religions but one faith with different methods of doing serivice for the Supreme personality. each religion worships a different potency of the lord, in a different way. well christianity is a different story since most believe jesus is god which both muslims and vaisnavas know is not true. anyway.. but you get my point.
hope this summary of the Srimad Bhaggavatam helped a bit. this portion of the vedic scriptures consists of volumes and volumes of books just to describe the nature of the Lord and was written by an expansion of Lord Krishna. Please make a point of reading it.
For more infomation visit http://www.krishna.com/node/905
All Glories to Sri Sri Rhadha and Krishna
All Glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga
dear devotees on this website
please do not post mean things to the muslims. Sri Prabhupada never advised this
Gauranga. Be happy
Ambiarsa Dasa i feel you have a great deal of anger towards the muslims and this is not healthy for your preaching. you will only put up barriers rather than meet on common terms and love each other as Srila prabhupad has tought us.
The verse that you quoted that u used to beat the muslims over the head with was actually revealed to muhammed at a time he was at war with the pagans. You see islam might believe in Allah, but remember this is the impersonal form of Krishna.. his advice has wisdom behind it. Remember when Krishna tells Arjuna to fight? and do you remember what was Krishna’s reasons?
Allah clearly stipulates when to fight and when not to.. and if the enemy does not back down.. then the verse you quoted above applies.
This is not terrorism, today muslim millitary groups in the east use these verses to justify their action with the retaliation against the onslaught of the west, but yet the millitant groups in the east (not the rest of the world) have committed offences in the aspect. and not to mention that some of them arent muslim
Im in support of bringing religions together rather that separating them.
Jaya Shri Krishna and Shri Radha
All glories to Shrila Prabhupada
Hare krishna
And what about Amitabha the Buddha of Infinite Light?
I think this teaching transcends this discussion .
I see lot of similarities between Krishna and Amitabha but that is only a feeling/thought after studying these things, meditating and experience no fanatic vibe.
There is a buddhist text which says aeons and aeons ago a soul (which is now known as Amitabha) reached enlightment more information you can find on internet.
I see a similarity between chanting the name Amitabha and Krishna (see Google) or repeating this name(mantra)
I googled : The infinite Krishna and The Infinite Amitabha.
I read that Buddha Shakyamuni himself meditated on the name of Amitabha and his Pure Land and also teached about this.
I know that is said that some thousand years ago Krishna was on earth but according to some buddhist scriptures Amitabha was completely enlighted before that. Repeating the name Amitabha(there are chinese and japanese variants) will give you rebirth in the so called ‘ Pure Land’ which is above the cycle of birth and death.
I think you cannot ignore this (Mahayana) Buddhist teaching in what we know on earth about this.
Thousands, mayby millions of people are meditating (chanting) on the name of Amitabha
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM (MAY PEACE BE UPON U)
“ISLAM” the word itself signifies…peace in arabic…..then with what common sense is this comment being made by my friend….
my friend MR.Dasa….do not catch up with the tip of problems….the verse which u gave is rit, but i donno, why, why have forgotten to write down the complete context the clearly mentions tht particular verse….
my dear friends, tht verse is towards the end of the context indicating a particular period of war time during the early periods…. am no scholar in this field of comparitive argument or somethin whts goin ova here…
but let me tell u humbly….
i suggest one and all to read tht context with the pure explanations from the authorised…
we all know the muslims all over the world are being kinda blacklisted as bad people…influenced by the media….
do not trust anythin blindly…
through out the world people say tht we muslims are to do JIHAD BY KILLING NON MUSLIMS AND CRAP LIKE THT…….
ALLAH HAS ASKED US TO DO JIHAD BY STAYING AWAY FROM ALL THE EVILS OF THIS WORLD TO GAIN A SUCCESSFULL HERE AFTER….
WE MUSLIMS START OUR CONVERSATION BY SAYIN ” PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY BE UPON U ”
NEITHER CHRISTIANS NOR HINDUS ARE BLAMED AS TERRORISTS OR VIOLENT PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO…
AUGUST 6TH IS FORGOTTEN
GUJARAT IS FORGOTTEN
BUT WHY ARE MUSLIMS BLAMED FOR WHT THEY HAVENT DONE….
WHT DO PEOPLE BENEFIT FROM BLAMING A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY…
EVERY ONE KNOWS THT THE THE SEPT 11 ATTACK WAS A CHEAT…..THE PLANE CUDNT JUS BRING DOWN SOMETHIN LIKE THT….
WE ALL KNOW THT DYNAMITE WAS BLOWN IN THE UNDERGROUND….NO JEW WAS PRESENT THT DAY…AND ATLAST MUSLIM TERRORISTS….HUH….
VERY FUNNY… LUKIN FOR ALL THE WAYS TO BLACK LIST A COMMUNITY….
ONCE AGAIN TO ALL MY FRIENDS, ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT PEACE LIVING WITHOUT HARMING ANYTHIN IN THE UNIVERSE….ITS A VALID TRUTH….
DO NOT BLINDLY LISTEN TO ANYTHIN…STUDY THE MATTER AND THEN THINK….U HAVE GOT BRAINS TO CHOOOSE AND NOT TO ARGUE…
THE PARTICULAR VERSE MY FRIEND TOOK AND SHOWED UP THT ISLAM ASKS TO KILL NON BELEIVERS IS WRONG TO THE FARTHEST….
ITS IN THE “SURAH THAUBAH”
THAT IS THE CHAPTER NO. 9
I HUMBLY REQUEST EVERYBODY, WHO MISUNDERSTANDS ISLAM FOR VIOLENCE, TO STUDY THIS CHAPTER TO THE FULLEST….
U TAKE A STEP AND STUDY, NOTHIN TO LOOSE FOR ANYBODY
JUS A POINT OF KNOWLEDGE AND PEACE,AND THE MISUNDERSTANDIN IS GONE….
everybody is in peace…
we know tht everythin in the world has a REASON (UNIVEERSAL TRUTH)
SIMILARLY WE ARE CREATED BY THE GOD FOR A REASON, THT IS TO PRAY FOR HIM, FOR WHICH WILL BE REWARDED IN THE HERE AFTER….
LIVE UR LIFE PEACEFULLY IN HERE AND MAKE THE HERE AFTER BLOSSOMED…
KEEP AWAY FROM ALL EVILS AND SUPERSTITIONS…
NO BODY SHOULD BE FORCED IN THEIR LIFE (THTS WHT ISLAM SAYS), THEY HAVE THE RIT TO CHOOSE, BUT NOT TO MAKE VIOLENCE……PEACE AND PATIENCE…IS ALL THT MATTERS….
STUDY AND ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, RATHER THAN BELEIVING, IN ANYTHIN AND ANYBODY, BLINDLY….
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM (MAY PEACE BE UPON U)
9. Yes if the Quran is the innerant true and “UNCHANGED” word of ALLAH
than YES ALLAH IS SATAN! You said Allah never said to kill others,
but if the QURAN IS THE WORD OF ALLAH then ALLAH “DOES” say to kill
people! IN SURAH 9:29 HE SAYS “KILL THOSE WHO BELIEVE NOT IN ALLAH OR
THE LAST DAY!” I even supplied the like to Surah 9:29 below so you
can see for yourself. Click on the link if you don’t believe me!
http://www.quran.com/9/29
Since only “Muslims” believe in Allah that means assuming the Quran is
“UNCHANGED” ALLAH says to kill ALL “NON-MUSLIMS”! SO IF THIS IS TRUE
ALL SAYS KILL ALL NON-MUSLIMS! Another thing you say is that you
“can’t blame Islam because some Muslims are doing nonsense things” but
a Muslim by definition is a person who “FOLLOWS” ISLAM! SO IF A
MUSLIM DOES A NONSENSE THING HE IS REPRESENTING ISLAM! SINCE MUSLIMS
ARE “FOLLOWERS” of ISLAM! SO THAT LOGIC MAKES NO SENSE! IF A MUSLIM
IS ONE WHO”FOLLOWS” ISLAM THEN “WHATEVER” A MUSLIM “DOES” IS A
“REPRESENTATION” OF ISLAM! SO YES YOU CAN “BLAME” ISLAM FOR WHAT
“MUSLIMS” “DO” SINCE MUSLIMS ARE THOSE WHO “FOLLOW” ISLAM! Besides
the point though I never said anything in my post about Allah saying
to kill others, even though “HE DOES” IN SURAH 9:29 as I HAVE GIVEN A
LINK ABOVE! I SAID ALLAH WAS SATAN BECAUSE HE ALLOWED MEAT EATING AND
ONLY THE DEVIL WOULD ALLOW MEAT EATING!!! I hope you understand
this, and I really hope I am clarifying your questions, and I really
hope you are not still confused about this.
10. I think I have already explained this but since Kali is a servant
of Krishna, then if Krishna orders Kali to accept a sacrifice, then
she has to do it. In the same way if Allah orders one of his servants
or angels to do something than he has to do it. End of question. I
hope you understand this!
Allah has no relationship such as father,mother,brother anything.
Allh is single and he is the superpower.
How can you compare with Krishna which is having partners and making love with the girls and stealing some things. Bloody Fool.
Hey know one thing it was created story so leave the story written by human.
Believe in the preachings of Islam, insha allah u will get paradise.
If follow other than islam allah will punish u , since he was our creator.
Believe in one true which was never seen by anyone.
If u have any queriew mail me at : ikshahul@gmail.com i will reply insah allah.