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Allah and Krishna Are The Same Person

There is no meaning to religion without God and since the entire religion is build upon the idea of God so lets first look into conception of God as per Islam and Sanatan-Dharma.

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Hare Krishna

Assalam-u-alaikum

Kindly accept my obesiances unto your lotus feet.

I would like to answer your questions as per my own limited capacity and unlimited grace of Gaudiya acaryas and Sri Sri Radha-Krsna allows me.

We all know that religion is entirely centered upon conception of God. There is no meaning to religion without God and since the entire religion is build upon the idea of God so lets first look into conception of God as per Islam and Sanatan-Dharma.

“Learned transcendentalists who know the Absolute Truth call this non-dual substance brahman, paramatma, and bhagavan.”

(Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.11)

This is the Vedic conception of God. God is refered to as Absolute Truth in Vedas. This verse from Bhagavatam states that Absolute Truth is called by three different names by the transcendentalists. These three names are actually three different conceptions of the same Absolute Truth that a transcendentalists has in proportion with his spiritual realization.

>>What is Brahman?

Brahman is nothing but the impersonal spiritual effulgence which is full of dazzling light. Hence is called brahmajyoti.

Vedic literature states:

This brahmajyoti effulgence is described in detail in several mantras of the Mundaka Upanisad (2.2.10-12):

“In the spiritual realm, beyond the material covering, is the unlimited Brahman effulgence, which is free from material contamination. That effulgent white light is understood by transcendentalists to be the light of all lights. In that realm there is no need of sunshine, moonshine, fire or electricity for illumination. Indeed, whatever illumination appears in the material world is only a reflection of that supreme illumination. That Brahman is in front and in back, in the north, south, east and west, and also overhead and below. In other words, that supreme Brahman effulgence spreads throughout both the material and spiritual skies.”

Lord Krishna in Holy Gita describes this as follows-

” But those who fully worship the unmanifested, that which lies beyond the perception of the senses, the all-pervading, inconceivable, fixed and immovable–the impersonal conception of the Absolute Truth–by controlling the various senses and being equally disposed to everyone, such persons, engaged in the welfare of all, at last achieve Me. “

(Holy Gita 12.3-4)

Now lets see what Al-Quran has to say about this:

“Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things. “

(24.35)

” He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Immanent: and He has full knowledge of all things. ” (57.3)

“No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things. “(6.103)

Last words goes like this-

wa Huwal Latiiful-Khabiir…

Latiif means fine and subtle. He is so fine that He is imperceptible to senses. Hence no vision can grasp Him. So no one can see Him. This is certainly the description of impersonal effulgence of God.

>> What is Parmatma ?

Paramatma means “the Supreme Self” or “the Supreme Soul,” (atma means “self or soul,” and parama means “transcendental, absolute or supreme”). Usually, paramatma is translated as “the Supersoul.”

What Vedas speak about it:

” Yet in this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer who is the Lord, the supreme proprietor, who exists as the overseer and permitter, and who is known as the Supersoul. ” ( BG 13.23)

“Everywhere are His hands and legs, His eyes and faces, and He hears everything. In this way the Supersoul exists.”

” The Supersoul is the original source of all senses, yet He is without senses. He is unattached, although He is the maintainer of all living beings. He transcends the modes of nature, and at the same time He is the master of all modes of material nature.”

” The Supreme Truth exists both internally and externally, in the moving and nonmoving. He is beyond the power of the material senses to see or to know. Although far, far away, He is also near to all. “

” Although the Supersoul appears to be divided, He is never divided. He is situated as one. Although He is the maintainer of every living entity, it is to be understood that He devours and develops all. “

” He is the source of light in all luminous objects. He is beyond the darkness of matter and is unmanifested. He is knowledge, He is the object of knowledge, and He is the goal of knowledge. He is situated in everyone’s heart.”

(BG 13.14-18)

” I am the Self, O Gudakesa, seated in the hearts of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the end of all beings. ” (BG 10.20)

>> This Self refered to the Supersoul and not the individual soul.

“Both the Supersoul [Paramatma] and the atomic soul [jivatma] are situated on the same tree of the body within the same heart of the living being, and only one who has become free from all material desires as well as lamentations can, by the grace of the Supreme, understand the glories of the soul.” (Katha Upanisad 1.2.20).

Furthermore both the Katha Upanisad and Svetasvatara Upanisad confirm this:

“Although the two birds are in the same tree, the eating bird is fully engrossed with anxiety and moroseness as the enjoyer of the fruits of the tree. But if in some way or other he turns his face to his friend who is the Lord and knows His glories–at once the suffering bird becomes free from all anxieties.”

Now lets see what Al-Quran has to say-

Allah enters into everyone’s hearts:

“Say: “If I am astray, I only stray to the loss of my own soul: but if I receive guidance, it is because of the inspiration of my Lord to me: it is He Who hears all things, and is (ever) near.” (34.50)

“It was We Who created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein. ” (50.16)

” And He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah sees well all that ye do. “(57.4)

” But We are nearer to him than ye, and yet see not,”(56.85)

“…..He has full knowledge of the secrets of (all) hearts. “(57.6)

“………… and know that Allah cometh in between a man and his heart,……”(8.24)

>> What is Bhagavan ?

The word Bhagavan means “the person who possesses all the divine attributes or opulences (bhaga),” all wealth, all power, all fame, all beauty, all knowledge, and all renunciation to an infinite degree.

Bhagavan refers to the Personality of Godhead. According to Vedic philosophy and Al-Quran as we have seen, that God is impersonal absolute light or all-pervasive Supersoul. But both of them don’t end the description here. They continue like this:

Al-Quran:

Remember I quoted a verse 24.35 where it was written Allah is light but then it was immediately said that Allah possesses light.

Let me reproduce the relevant portion of the verse-

First part says:

Allaahu Nuurus….

Allah is light

Then it continues

Masalu Nuurihii……

Nuurihii means “His light”.

So Allah is not only light but also possesses light.

Allah has personal relationships:

He guides- (24.35)&(7.155)

He punishes- (7.156) & (8.52) (7.165) (8.16)

He protects and takes care- (2.257)(6.102)

He teaches- (2.282)

He remembers-(2.152)

Allah has personal feelings:

Allah loves-(3.159)(9.100)(9.117)

Allah reciprocates with His personal devotees- Story about the messenger of God, Joseph that Allah narrated to the Holy Prophet Mohammad.(12.4-101)

Certainly all this requires senses,mind and intelligence to be displayed hence we should at least start to think that Allah is a person also.

Allah has personal desires:

10.107,2.40-41.

Allah has personal memory:

2.152,58.7,20.52

Allah has personal features:

10.21,10.32,10.60,12.100,12.98,14.47,20.5, 22.40,22.60,4.147,40.12

Allah plays different personal parts:

2.257,3.98,10.109,11.107,12.66, 13.16, 20.114, 22.78, 33.52, 2.233,35.31,59.23,59.24,6.57

Allah has personal will:

5.17,19.35,85.16

Allah is the living one:

2.255,40.65,2.20,22.40

Allah has personal faculty of speech:

2.30,12.3

Allah has personal faculty of hearing:

2.224,24.21

Allah has personal faculty of sight:

2.233,34.11

Allah has personal identity:

51.56-57

Allah has personal knowledge:

24.35,6.59

Allah is the best person[Bhagavan]

8.30,22.58

Allah has a face:

6.52,13.22,18.28,30.38,30.39,2.115,28.88,55.26-27

Allah has hands:

39.67,38.75,3.73,67.1,48.10,5.67

Allah has an IMAGE:

16.60.

” It is He Who begins (the process of) creation; then repeats it; and for Him it is most easy. To Him belongs the loftiest similitude (we can think of) in the heavens and the earth: for He is Exalted in Might, full of wisdom. “(30.27)

So according to Holy Quran Allah has a form whcih is Absolute, Spiritual, infallible, most beautiful and transcendental to all kind of material conceptions, free from even a tinge of material contamination.

This is the form which possess light. And this is the person who knows the deepest secrets of our hearts.

Although Holy Quran just gives an idea that God ultimately possesses a form but the Vedic literature just gives more details of this form giving the specific information.

Now lets see what Vedic literature has to say:

” Krishna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead. He has an eternal blissful spiritual body. He is the origin of all. He has no other origin and He is the prime cause of all causes.” (Brahma Samhita 1)

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati a great devotee and spiritual master write in purport to this verse-Krishna is the exalted Supreme entity having His eternal name, eternal form, eternal attribution and eternal pastimes. The very name “Krishna” implies His love-attracting designation, expressing by His eternal nomenclature the acme of entity. His eternal beautiful heavenly blue-tinged body glowing with the intensity of ever-existing knowledge has a nude in both His hands. As His inconceivable spiritual energy is all-extending, still He maintains His all-charming medium size by His qualifying spiritual instrumentals. His all-accommodating supreme subjectivity is nicely manifested in His eternal form. The concentrated all time presence, uncovered knowledge and inebriating felicity have their beauty in Him. The mundane manifestive portion of His own Self is known as all-pervading Paramatma, Isvara (Superior Lord) or Vishnu (All-fostering). Hence it is evident that Krishna is sole Supreme Godhead. His unrivaled or unique spiritual body of super excellent charm is eternally unveiled with innumerable spiritual instrumentals (senses) and unreckonable attributes keeping their signifying location properly, adjusting at the same time by His inconceivable conciliative powers. This beautiful spiritual figure is identical with Krishna and the spiritual entity of Krishna is identical with His own figure.

” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is adept in playing on His flute, with blooming eyes like lotus petals with head decked with peacock’s feather, with the figure of beauty tinged with the hue of blue clouds, and His unique loveliness charming millions of Cupids. “(BS 30)

” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, round whose neck is swinging a garland of flowers beautified with the moon-locket, whose two hands are adorned with the flute and jeweled ornaments, who always revels in pastimes of Lowe, whose graceful threefold-bending form of Syamasundara is eternally manifest. “(BS 31)

“I worship Govinda, the primeval Lords whose transcendental form is full of bliss, truth, substantiality and is thus full of the most dazzling splendor. Each of the limbs of that transcendental figure possesses in Himself, the full-fledged functions of all the organs, and eternally sees, maintains and manifests the infinite universes, both spiritual and mundane.”

(BS 32)

“I worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda [Krsna], who is the original person–absolute, infallible, without beginning. Although expanded into unlimited forms, still the same original, the oldest, and the person always appearing as a fresh youth. Such eternal, blissful, all-knowing forms of the Lord are usually understood by the best Vedic scholars, but they are always manifest to pure, unalloyed devotees.” (BS 33)

” He is an undifferentiated entity as there is no distinction between potency and the possessor thereof. In His work of creation of millions of worlds, His potency remains inseparable. All the universes exist in Him and He is present in His fullness in every one of the atoms that are scattered throughout the universe, at one and the same time. Such is the primeval Lord whom I adore. “(BS 35)

“I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is the absolute substantive principle being the ultimate entity in the form of the support of all existence whose external potency embodies the thr eefold mundane qualities, viz., sattva, rajas and tamas and diffuses the Vedic knowledge regarding the mundane world.” (BS 41)

“The Supreme Lord is the controller of all other controllers, and He is the greatest of all the diverse planetary leaders. Everyone is under His control. All entities are delegated with particular power only by the Supreme Lord; they are not supreme themselves. He is also worshipable by all demigods and is the supreme director of all directors. Therefore, He is transcendental to all kinds of material leaders and controllers and is worshipable by all. There is no one greater than Him, and He is the supreme cause of all causes.”

“He does not possess bodily form like that of an ordinary living entity. There is no difference between His body and His soul. He is absolute. All His senses are transcendental. Any one of His senses can perform the action of any other sense. Therefore, no one is greater than Him or equal to Him. His potencies are multifarious, and thus His deeds are automatically performed as a natural sequence.” (Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.7-8)

Again in the svetasvatra Upanisad

“In the material world Brahma, the primeval living entity within the universe, is understood to be the supreme amongst the demigods, human beings and lower animals. But beyond Brahma there is the Transcendence who has no material form and is free from all material contaminations. Anyone who can know Him also becomes transcendental, but those who do not know Him suffer the miseries of the material world.”

“I know that Supreme Personality of Godhead who is transcendental to all material conceptions of darkness. Only he who knows Him can transcend the bonds of birth and death. There is no way for liberation other than this knowledge of that Supreme Person.

“There is no truth superior to that Supreme Person because He is the supermost. He is smaller than the smallest, and He is greater than the greatest. He is situated as a silent tree, and He illumines the transcendental sky, and as a tree spreads its roots, He spreads His extensive energies.” Svetasvatara Upanisad(3.8-9)

“I offer my respectful obeisances to Sri Krishna, whose form is eternal and full of knowledge and bliss, who is the rescuer from distress, who is understood by Vedanta, who is the supreme spiritual master, and who is the witness in everyone’s heart.”(Gopal Tapani Upanisad 1.1)

” One should meditate upon the Supreme Person as the one who knows everything, as He who is the oldest, who is the controller, who is smaller than the smallest, who is the maintainer of everything, who is beyond all material conception, who is inconceivable, and who is always a person. He is luminous like the sun and, being transcendental, is beyond this material nature. “(BG 8.9)

Visnu Purana(1.9.69):

“Whoever comes before You, be he a demigod, is created by You, O Supreme Personality of Godhead.”

” Although fixed in His abode, the Personality of Godhead is swifter than the mind and can overcome all others running. The powerful demigods cannot approach Him. Although in one place, He controls those who supply the air and rain. He surpasses all in excellence.” (Isopanisad 4)

“The Supreme Lord walks and does not walk. He is far away, but He is very near as well. He is within everything, and yet He is outside of everything.”(Isopanisad 5)

“Such a person must factually know the greatest of all, the Personality of Godhead, who is unembodied, omniscient, beyond reproach, without veins, pure and uncontaminated, the self-sufficient philosopher who has been fulfilling everyone’s desire since time immemorial. “

(Isopanisad 8)

Srila Prabhupada writes in His purport to the above verse-

Here is a description of the transcendental and eternal form of the Absolute Personality of Godhead. The Supreme Lord is not formless. He has His own transcendental form, which is not at all similar to the forms of the mundane world. The forms of the living entities in this world are embodied in material nature, and they work like any material machine. The anatomy of a material body must have a mechanical construction with veins and so forth, but the transcendental body of the Supreme Lord has nothing like veins. It is clearly stated here that He is un-embodied, which means that there is no difference between His body and His soul. Nor is He forced to accept a body according to the laws of nature, as we are. In materially conditioned life, the soul is different from the gross embodiment and subtle mind. For the Supreme Lord, however, there is never any such difference between Him and His body and mind. He is the Complete Whole, and His mind, body and He Himself are all one and the same.

These are the few verses from the Vedic literature that describes the Transcendental form of Person of God.

So we see that Al-quran tells that Allah is light and Vedic literature confirms this as well. Then we see that Al-Quran says Allah possesses light. Similarly Vedic scripture says:

“And I am the basis of the impersonal Brahman, which is the constitutional position of ultimate happiness, and which is immortal, imperishable and eternal. “

(BG 14.27)

Here Lord Krishna says that the all pervading dazzling impersonal spiritual effulgence is nothing but glow of Transcendental Personality. So Allah or Krishna’s Transcendental Personality’s glow constitutes impersonal Brahman.

This is further verified in Brahma Samhita:

” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, whose effulgence is the source of the nondifferentiated Brahman mentioned in the Upanisads, being differentiated from the infinity of glories of the mundane universe appears as the indivisible, infinite, limitless, truth.”(Text 40)

” O my Lord, sustainer of all that lives, Your real face is covered by Your dazzling effulgence. Kindly remove that covering and exhibit Yourself to Your pure devotee. “

(Isopanisad 15)

In the prayers of Kunti in the Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.8.18) it is said that the Lord is covered by the curtain of yoga-maya and thus ordinary people cannot understand Him. Kunti prays: “O my Lord, You are the maintainer of the entire universe, and devotional service to You is the highest religious principle. Therefore, I pray that You will also maintain me. Your transcendental form is covered by the yoga-maya. The brahmajyoti is the covering of the internal potency. May You kindly remove this glowing effulgence that impedes my seeing Your sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, Your eternal form of bliss and knowledge.”

As Allah’s Nur is the light of all luminaries similarly it has been stated by

Vedic literature that Krishna’s effulgence is light of all lights as verified in the verses from upanisads and Gita stated above.

So now we can safely conclude that God is a Person, Supreme Person possesing transcendental body which is knowledge absolute, never subjected to decay, always youthful. This body is absolute as there is no difference between the mind, body and spirit. Everything in connection with Him is Absolute spirit.

Now lets consider Parmatma. Although Al-Quran states that this very same transcendental form is present in everyone’s heart as the Supersoul Vedic literature talks about this Supersoul as the plenary expansion of the Transcendental personality of Supreme which dwells in all living entities.

In the Narada-pancaratra this is confirmed in this way:

“By concentrating one’s attention on the transcendental form of Krsna, who is all-pervading and beyond time and space, one becomes absorbed in thinking of Krsna and then attains the happy state of transcendental association with Him.”

Krsna consciousness is the highest stage of trance in yoga practice. This very understanding that Krsna is present as Paramatma in everyone’s heart makes the yogi faultless. The Vedas confirm this inconceivable potency of the Lord as follows:

“Visnu is one, and yet He is certainly all-pervading. By His inconceivable potency, in spite of His one form, He is present everywhere. As the sun, He appears in many places at once.”

So although being one without a second the very same transcendental personality appears in the innumerable hearts as many just as one sun appears in many places at once. He is able to do this by dint of His inconcievable potency and since His personality is beyond space and time He can expand Himself into another form and yet remain the same person manifested differently in various forms:

Although Al-Quran covers information regarding God but Vedas goes in Detail explaining that very same personality of Go has expanded Himself into infinite number of forms-

“The one Supreme Personality of Godhead is eternally engaged in many, many transcendental forms in relationships with His unalloyed devotees.”

(Puruso-bodhini upanisad)

“The light of one candle being communicated to other candles, although it burns separately in them, is the same in its quality. I adore the primeval Lord Govinda who exhibits Himself equally in the same mobile manner in His various manifestations.”(Brahma Samhita text 46)

One must understand that Personality of Supreme who is known as Krishna, Allah…

is beyond space and time, uncontaminated, self-effulgent and absolute. When He exhibits Himself in innumerable forms then it is not that He has divided His one form into infinite pieces but each and every form is that same absolute truth Himself. They are all one and same. The example of vaidurya stone is given in this regards. This stone remains the same yet changes it’s color. Hence Personality of God remains the same yet manifests infinitely different appearnces. This It is not that one form is a seperate person than other; they are all one and the same Supreme Personality just differently manifested. For us due to our conditioned existence it is very difficult to understand that how can God who is one without a second remain same absolute while simultaneously exhibit infinte number of forms. The answer is that He has inconcievable transcendental energy through which He expands Himself[His person] into different forms yet remain the same. Note He has expanded Himself into innumerable forms and not divided Himself into innumerable forms. Therefore He is God Himself in any of His form. Logically thinking since Supreme is an unlimited Person therefore it is sensible to accept that He possesses infinite number of forms. There is no limit to Him in any respect. Just as He has inifinite number of names He possesses infinite forms. Supreme Lord Krishna states this as follows:

“Lord Krishna says: There are others, who are purified and cultured souls, who by understanding my different forms as myself, as one personality in various forms and features, worship me according to their spiritual understanding and convictions following the rules of worship as given in the Vedas.”

But originally the form of God is that which resembles Lord Krishna transcendental triple bending form. These forms of one and same Supreme Lord Krishna are identical with person of Lord Rama, Lord Vishnu. Not Lord Shiva or Lord Brahma. What is the state of Lord Brahma in comparison to Lord Krishna is spoken by Lord Brahma Himself:

http://www.bhagavadgita.org/Incarnations/incarnation-61.html

So now you must be convinced that Al-Quran when refers to Allah is only refering to the person Krishna Himself. Certainly there cannot be two different person with same description and paraphernalia.

Further more look at another amazing similarity—

“(We take our)Color from Allah. Who is better than Allah at coloring?”(2.138)

Sibgat the root meaning of this word is color. Allah possesses beautiful dark color.

Actually Allah being the source of everything it is no wonder that some color of this material world should resemble His.

Although His color is not material which I shall explain in a moment. From the above verse if Arabs analogously resembles the color of God then we can safely conclude that color of God is a beautiful dark complexion. But God has been described as full of dazzling effulgence and no dark color in this world is dazzling. This seems contradictory. Actually there is no contradiction if we realize that this dark color of Allah is spiritual but not material. Being a spiritual color it is transcendental to perception and mind and can afford to throw out flashing effulgence. Similarly Krishna is famous as syamsundara or one whose complexion is darkish but at the same time is full of most dazzling splendor. See this verse:

” I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, who is Syamasundara, Krishna Himself with inconceivable innumerable attributes, whom the pure devotees see in their heart of hearts with the eye of devotion tinged with the salve of love.” (Brahma Samhita 38)

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta saraswati writesin the purport to this verse-

The Syamasundara form of Krishna is His inconceivable simultaneous personal and impersonal self-contradictory form. True devotees see the form in their purified hearts under the influence of devotional trance. The form Syama is not the blue color visible in the mundane world but is the transcendental variegated color affording eternal bliss, and is not visible to the mortal eye. On a consideration of the trance of Vyasadeva as in the sloka, bhakti-yogena manasi etc., it will be clear that the form of Sri Krishna is the full Personality of Godhead and can only be visible in the heart of a true devotee, which is the only true seat in the state of trance under the influence of devotion. When Krishna manifested Himself in Vraja, both the devotees and non- devotees saw Him with this very eye; but only the devotees cherished Him, eternally present in Vraja, as the priceless jewel of their heart. Nowadays also the devotees see Him in Vraja in their hearts, saturated with devotion although they do not see Him with their eyes. The eye of devotion is nothing but the eye of the pure unalloyed spiritual self of the Jiva. The form of Krishna is visible to that eye in proportion to its purification by the practice of devotion. When the devotion of the neophyte reaches the stage of bhava-bhakti the pure eye of that devotee is tinged with the salve of love by the grace of Krishna, which enables him to see Krishna face to face. The phrase “in their hearts” means Krishna is visible in proportion as their hearts are purified by the practice of devotion. The sum and substance of this sloka is that the form of Krishna, who is Syamasundara, Natavara (Best Dancer), Muralidhara (Holder of the Flutes) and Tribhanga (Triple-bending), is not a mental concoction but is transcendental, and is visible with the eye of the soul of the devotee under trance.

Hence the Brahman just being the transcendental effulgence of spiritual body of Lord represents Absolute Truth partially. Parmatma being plenary expansion of the very spiritual absolute form of Lord is a partial representation of Supreme Personality situated in everyone’s heart. Highest conception therefore of Absolute truth is Supreme Person who contains the infinite formless magnitude in His form as His own spiritual energy and expands Himself as Superself in everyone. So it is the Personality of Godhead who makes Himself partially represented by all pervading effulgence being rays of His spiritual body and hence nondifferent from His very person just like Sun rays being emanation from sun are nondifferent from the sun planet itself. Then this same person makes Himself partially present in everyone’s heart as the supersoul. So it is the Bhagavan who is both origin of brahman and Parmatma who is to be worhsipped. One should not think here that Absolute truth is has equally divided itself in the form of Brahman,parmatma and bhagavan. But rather Absolute truth is only Bhagavan Himself. Parmatma on virtue of being partial representation of that Absolute truth Bhagavan is partial representation of Absolute truth and similarly the dazzling effulgence being a spiritual energy of Absolute truth is a partial representation of it only. Only Bhagavan who is Absolute Truth itself is the complete perfection and complete manifestation of Absolute Truth possessing superexcellently beautiful form. Since this form is unrivaled and incomparable and other than whom no truth exists is called Allah due to this reason. Because this very form of the Supreme Person is full in all opulences unto infinite degree it is called Krishna meaning the All-attractive one. Vedas further argue that anyname to belong to Supreme Lord must be indicated by the word Krishna otheriwse it doesn’t belongs to the absolute truth. The reason is that since the word krishna means all-attractive one and any name of God irrespective of the language, culture etc.. always attracts in one or the other way. The basic nature of each and every name of God is that it attracts one or in other word that it is indicated by krishna.

Bhagavan is thus the personal God aspired to and worshiped by the devotees of monotheistic religions like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam and Hinduism.

SO MY DEAR BROTHER MUHAMMAD I HUMBLY REQUEST AT YOUR LOTUS FEET THAT YOU AT LEAST START TO THINK OF THE SIMILARITY IN THE PERSON OF ALLAH AND KRISHNA AS DESCRIBED IN AL-QURAN AND VEDIC LITERATURE YOUR DOUBTS WILL AUTOMATICALLY MELT AWAY AND YOU WOULD KNOW THE CORRECT WAY INSHALLAH!!!!!

Towards the end I beg for mercy and forgiveness if I have knowingly or unknowingly hurt anyone’s sentiments. I being a servant of all servants of Krishna accept all religions that professes love unto Supreme as the only way for perfect liberation bonafide.

All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga

Your Servant Always

OM TAT SAT

Sumeet.

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70 Responses to Allah and Krishna Are The Same Person

  1. Hrishikesh says:

    Hare Krsna Prabhu,
    There is a story of a Mussalman in the Narasimha Purana when he got salvation by chanting the name of Rama who was actually saying haram.
    In the Nrsimha Purana there is an instance that a Mussulman was attacked by, what is called? Boar having…710815rc.lon
    How is that this incident is recorded in the Narasimha Purana? Islam is a recent religion not more than 1400 years old and Narasimha Purana appeared in written form at least 5000 years ago.
    I don’t know if I am right but I got the following conclusion : The appearance of Muhammad was actually predicted in the Bhavisya Purana, so the incidents of the mussalmans are recorded in other Puranas, just like the pastimes of Lord Ramachandra and Lord Buddha was predicted before Their appearance in this material world.
    Please clarify Prabhu.

    • Hrishikesh says:

      Hare Krsna Prabhu,
      Prabhu, is there any provision for deleting the comments? Yesterday, I was reading Srila Prabhupada’s Vani Samadhi and I found that he has accepted Muhammad and Jesus as empowered representatives of Lord Krsna. So, I did a big mistake!!! I actually wanted to blaspheme Muhammad. I do not feel shame for publicly declaring this because nothing can be more shameful than blaspheming a devotee. Maybe Krsna will never forgive me for this offense to a devotee.
      Prabhu, if there is any way, please remove my comment! At least I can be relieved in some way.

      • Hare Krishna Hrishikesh

        I have a huge bunch of unanswered comments that I am trying to catch up on today. If I see your comment I will delete it. But it is true of course. Even Lord Buddha is an incarnation of Krishna and he, according to the time and place, found it necessary to reject the Vedas and preach a totally atheistic philosophy. Sankacharaya is an incarnation of Lord Shiva and he found it necessary to preach the totally bogus Mayavada philosophy.

        So Muhammad also was preaching in a very difficult situation, in a very primitive meat eating society. But he preached the glory of God and established the process of praying to God and chanting the names of God.

        Jesus said to his followers “There are so many things I have not told you because you could not bear them…” Even then the followers murdered Jesus after only three years of his preaching to them…

        So it is not very easy for these devotees like Lord Jesus Christ and Muhammad to establish love of God among the meat eaters. So we have all respect for them and we accept them as shaktivesa avatars, empowered incarnations.

        Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

        Madhudvisa dasa

  2. CHAND KAZI HIMSELF SAID KORAN IS BLIND.

  3. Akshay Lokhande says:

    Allah has an IMAGE:

    16.60.

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  4. sandeep says:

    Hari Om

  5. Paul Rogers says:

    @crystostom You make a very good point re Muslims and “non-believers” which is a fundamental truth. They have misinterpreted the historical and religious context of Islam, and the “non-believers” passages of the Quran. You’re absolutely right, all the religions of the world, have the same God. They are all on the same paths, but just with different belief system rituals, different prophets fitting for each people, place and time. But the One God, is the same God, in all religions, whether it be Islam, Christianity, Sikhism, Judaism etc. It’s a mistake (and an act against god) for Muslims to attack non-Muslims of other religions, as non-believers.

  6. Paul Rogers says:

    In Sikhism, God is a non-entity, formless, not a person or being in the sense we can comprehend, but rather an omnipresent presence:

    The opening of the scripture tells us about the description of God: “God is One. He is the Supreme Truth. He the Creator, is without fear and without hate. He is immortal. He is neither born and nor does He die. By Guru’s grace shall He be met. Chant And Meditate on His Name. In the beginning, He was the Truth. Throughout the ages, He has been the Truth. He is the Truth now and He shall be the Truth forever” (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1).

    The most important aspect of being a Sikh, is to understand that, there is one endless God. He is indescribable, inestimable, indubitable, infallible, intangible, imperishable, immutable, immortal, immaculate, immanent, unconquerable, unique, formless, fearless, deathless, timeless, ageless, compassionate, omnipresent and creator of all. “There is only the One Supreme Lord; there is no other at all. Spirit, soul and body, all belong to Him; whatever pleases His Will, comes to pass” (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 45).

  7. nelson says:

    If I were a god, id send a message down that says stfu and enjoy my work. Me and my god friends didnt do this for you to wine and cry about whats what. Youre not godly, leave that to us.

  8. aditya says:

    Hare krishna!!!
    A very nice article…

  9. Peace Mu-salaam shant says:

    I when born was not following any religion, but when I started to grow ol, I could hear my soul’s voice. Then I started to know more about got and how does he look and what does he do and stuff like that. Then the desire of finding him increased and one day my subconscious mind answered all my questions. I saw a pure form of light which I had never seen in my life,that pure form of light was emitting different color of lights and like some fusion reaction there were packet of lights coming out of it, some were big packets and some were small packet of lights of different color and size. Some light packets were again getting separated and turning into smaller packet, but after a while those small packets of life were moving(blending) into various bodies of plants, humans, animals, water, mountains, sea, trees, soil, stones, and each bit of universe. I was surprised and confused on this strange kind of dream I have been dreaming. I woke up with 10000s of questions in my mind and went to my elders to seek answer but none of the answers were satisfactory, so I decided to find it by myself. I started looking ans in oldest religious books and then I found the answer in Rig Veda books, I was not a scholar nor Hindu to understand those so I went to one temple near my house and met a old man there, and he explained me the logic and rituals behind religions and told me that I might have discovered parmathamas true form which can only be felt and cannot be compared or explained to anyone else. He opened and showed me a page Gita which described Krishna in the same way as I had seen in my dreams. And now when I see comments in this website my understanding and imagination seems as real. Rituals are applicable in certain regions where they are formed and we should not blindly follow them until they are applicable to our living environment.

  10. Srija says:

    Please clarify one doubt for me. In the Quran it says that you must believe in judgement day and that worship nobody but Allah. Reincarnation is not believed. Why is this? If Allah was truly Lord Krishna, then howcome He says that reincarnation is not real and that if you don’t believe in the last revelation then you will go to hellfire and suffer? Why does it say this in the Holy Quran?

    • Hare Krishna Srija

      If Allah is God, the Supreme Person, then Allah is Krishna. Krishna is not a particular person’s name. It is a Sanskrit word that means “The all-attractive person”. So it means the person who has all the attractive qualities in full. You know if you see a beautiful person you are attracted to that person, if someone is very wealthy people are attracted to that person. There are six things that we find attractive: beauty, knowledge, strength, wealth, fame and renunciation. Even if some ordinary mundane person possesses one of these opulences people are attracted to him. For example if some famous actor is walking out in public so many will be attracted to him and be asking him for his autograph, etc… So if you can understand that the word “Krishna” simply means the person who has all of these six opulences in full then you will understand that Allah is Krishna. Allah has all knowledge, all strength, all fame, all beauty and all wealth and all renunciation. So if Allah is God then Allah is Krishna, he possesses all the attractive qualities in full. Krishna is not a sectarian word, it is not a HIndu word. Krishna is simply a perfect description of God. So if Allah is God then Allah is Krishna.

      As far as the teachings of the Quran that is not an eternal book. It was presented at a certain time in history and in a particular culture and political situation. So the knowledge that is presented in the Quran is according to the time and the place and the ability of the people it was presented to to understand. There are many incarnations of Krishna and they do not all preach in exactly the same way. Krishna appears in a particular society and preaches according to what the people need to hear at that particular time to help them advance spiritually. But beyond all these presentations of spiritual knowledge that are according to time and circumstances is the Vedas. Veda means knowledge and in the Vedas you will find all spiritual and also material knowledge. The Vedas is eternally existent. They appeared with the creation of the universe and they do not change. The knowledge presented in the Vedas is absolute and never changes. It is not presented according to a particular time and circumstances. It may be that in the Quran there is no mention of reincarnation, but there are so many things that are in the Vedas that are not mentioned in the Quarn, Quran is a small book. a summary of spiritual knowledge only. There is no space in such a small book for any great detailed explanations. But the Vedas is vast. Thousands of books covering every aspect of knowledge in the most minute detail. So you can get an introduction from the Quran and if you follow the Qyran also that is very nice but if you want to dig deeper into spiritual knowledge then that deeper knowledge is available in the Vedas.

      So the fact is that reincarnation is real. We are all eternal spirit souls and the time of death means the soul does not die, the soul is transferred into another body or liberated at the time of death depending on his consciousness at the time of death. This takes a bit of effort to explain and a bit of intelligence to understand so it may be that at the time the Quran was written the author did not want to get into all these details. But he has summarized it and I think you will find in the Quran that the soul is eternal and at the time of death you can go to heaven or hell. So that is a simplification of reincarnation. The simplification is made according to the time and place when the Quran was written so it can be easily understood by the people at that time. But if you want more details you will find them in the Vedas.

      Chant the name of God and be happy!

      Madhudvisa dasa

  11. What a beautiful article, Sumeet Prabhu. Hare Kṛṣṇa

    I was reading the article for some time, immersed in its words. Then I scroll down and begin reading the comments. It was like going from Satya-yuga to Kali-yuga in an instant.

    Oh Kṛṣṇa…

  12. Siama says:

    Hare Krishna…

  13. No doubt , there is only one god. Krsna,Raam, Allah, God etc. are his holy names and forms.

    All scriptures says that-

    •There is only 1 supreme personality.

    •He lives in everyone’s heart.

    •words – LOVE, PREM , MUHOBBAT are mentioned in every scriptures.

    •It is mentioned that we are children of god or parts and parcels of Krsna or Allah k bande !

    •Then , we are all eternal spiritual brothers.

    •VEDIC SYSTEM , ISLAAM, CHRISTINITY etc. are the different ways created by the LORD for us to be walked on , so that we can reach Him , coz we don’t possess the qualifications to live together with the god or allah or krsna in harmony. Just see, though we r brothers , how we are fighting here with each other ! That’s y we are here in this impermanant world. Its a place like jail , where we have to quallify ourself by following the ways provided to us.

    •So my brothers, pls go on your path, your way provided by the supreme personality and get Him , and stop fighting and barking like dogs. If u stop walking on your paths and keep on barking .. , none of u will get out of this world and will be captured here …. we can’t live in our bodies anyhow for more than year 2050 , so pls keep going on your paths instead of showing yr knowledge. If u have that much knowledge , if u think u r intelligent than go ahead and get your lord.

    we are all sinners here , that’s y we are on this planet. Its a good oppourtunity that we have got human bodies , so make use of it to follow the path provided by the lord to you. You may be Vedic, Christian or Musalmaan ,,, but instead of showing yr intelligence , go ahead , get the lord , and ask him y the brothers left behind are fighting with each other ???

    Don’t stop , follow your path.

    Hope u got it.

    Hare Krsna !
    Assalaamu Vaalaikam!
    Amen !

  14. kapil kumar says:

    HARE KRISHNA
    ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA…
    KRISHANA is the SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD. He is not an ordinary person or man .wn he incarnates on the earth in a human form, don’t think that he is a ordinary man, he is the supreme personality of godhead. He is divine and his activities are also divine. No one can understand the transcendental nature of the name ,form ,quality and pastimes of SHRI KRISHNA through his material contaminated senses .nly wn one can becms spiritually saturated by transcendental service to the lord SHRI KRISHNA are the transcendental name form, quality and pastime of the lord revealed to him
    Mny ppl say tat BHAGWAT GEETA ws written by a man called vyasa dev. Tat ignorant person cannot understand tat vyasa dev is also the incarnation of Krishna ,so hw can he became a man ?. it is not possible to write a man abt krishna. KRISHNA can become mny forms but he remains the same 100% his power never becms less. tats y v cal him BHAGWAN.
    BHAGWAN mean hving the six opulence tat is he must be full of knowledge, full of power, full of beauty, full of fame, full of wealth, full of renunciation and that nly KRISHNA having.
    Many ppl say tat KRISHNA steals but no one say tat wt KRISHNA gven, a person who steal never gives anything.wn KRISHNA took fruits from an old women instead of gving money he filled her fruits basket wth gold, diamonds, rubies, pearls.wn his friend sudama given only a few rice as gift instead of tat he was giving heaven ,earth and his abode also. he was giving but mata rukmini stoped Krishna not to gve his abode. SO TAT IS THE MEARCY OF KRISHNA. Krishna never steals, all gopies wanted the butter to be stolen by KRISHNA so they keep the butter and Krishna knew tat all gopies wanted to tke tat butter so Krishna fulfli ter wishes.
    Mny ppl say tat KRISHNA hvng mny gopies but they dnt knw tat all gopies are the form of RADHARANI. Radharani is the internal energy of Krishna ,so RADHA and KRISHNA are not different from one another they are the same,don’t think they are different.
    Mny ppl thought wrong abt RAAS LEELA ,raas leela means the meeting of soul(GOPIES) and supersoul(KRISHNA).RAAS LEELA is DIVINE as KRISHNA. Raasleela is the spiritual pleasure it is not the ordinary material pleasure , ignorant ppl think that material pleasure bec they dnt knw the spiritual pleasure ,so they think tat it’s a material pleasure.
    Mny ppl say tat Krishna tkes the cloths of gopies bt no one talk abt wn droupadi ws in troble ,dushasana ws remvng the clths of droupadi at tat tme KRISHNA nly gven the clths ,then hw cn he tkes the clths of other grls or gopies.

    MAY KRISHNA GIVE YOU THE RIGHT PATH AND BLESS YOU

  15. Kundarvan Kumar says:

    Sumeet Prabhu
    Hare Krsna

    I cannot believe you are equating Allah and Krsna.

    Do you know Allah allows sacrifice of animals in quran. So many muslims openly butcher cows and bulls as sacrifice…..how can you say allah and krsna is same person?

    On one hand you severely oppose name of Shiva as name of God on other hand you do compromise to accept name of allah….although shiva is mentioned as parambrahman, parmatma and bhagwan in bhagwatam itself!…

    Do some more purva paksha of islam before equating them…..

  16. Karishma Shah says:

    It doesn’t matter whether you follow the Hindu, Muslim, or Christian religion. If you are developing love of/for God, then you are perfect in your religion. And what kind of love should we develop for God? It must be without any selfish motivation – “O Lord, I love you because you supply me so many nice things. You are my order supplier.” NO!!! We should not have this sort of love for God. It should not depend on any exchange. Just keep loving God… that is the true path!!!

  17. Smeenk says:

    God is above all religion. So sad all these tensions and bloodshed in the world between Islam, Hindoes and Christians and so on.

    Do you really think that God is a hindu, muslim, christian or whatever.
    God is above all that

    It’s all ego thing if you think that your religion is better than the religion of someone else.

    God doesn’t care what religion you believe in . God lookes at your heart.

    Awake and read a new bible, a new Bhagavad Gita , a new Koran and that are the books of Neale Donald Walsh.

  18. hashim says:

    ASSSALAMU ALAIKUM

    my friend dasa….

    u keep on saying Allah is the satan and things like tht….why u so racially discriminating. I hope i have clearly mentioned in my opinion tht please do not TAKE THT PARTICULAR VERSE INTO CONSIDERATION AND CALL ALLAH ON ILL MANNERS….YOU PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT ABOUT IT, ALL WHAT YOU WANT IS JUS SOMEHOW BLACK NAME THE MUSLIMS, THTS NOT WHAT IS WANTED HERE, UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH PATIENTLY AND NOT WITH VIOLENCE.

    I HAVE TOLD MANY TIMES THT PARTICULAR VERSE 9:29 IS THE ENDING OF A WAR. THERE IS A BIG STORY BEFORE THT….WHY THE HELL YOU PEOPLE IGNORE THT.

    I HOPE EVERYBODY KNOWS THT, THOSE WHO DOES MISTAKES, ALWAYS WILL SUPPORT AND FIND LOOPHOLES AND EXCUSES TO DO IT. THTS WHTS HAPPENIN NOW. OR ELSE COME FORWARD AND STUDY THE FULL CHAPTER AND THEN TALK.

    AND IF U HAVE GOT MANNERS AND CULTURE YOU WUDNT CALL OUR CREATOR ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY WITH ILL MANNERS. IN FACT WE DON DO FOR UR GODS…

    AND NOW ABT THE MEAT EATING THING……..I REALLY DON UNDERSTAND YOUR PESIMISTIC MIND MY DEAR FRIEND….IN YOUR OPINION MUSLIMS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO EAT MEAT ON THIS EARTH, PEOPLE IN UR COMMUNITY, YOUTHS GO HAVE WEN AMONG FRIENDS….AND MOROVER ITS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE “THE ECOSYSTEM”…GO LEARN ABOUT IT.

    AND ABT WHT MUSLIMS IN SOME PLACES DO, SEE THE MAIN THING IS MISUNDERSTANDING OR BLINDLY BELEIVING THE MEDIA.
    TO BE TRUE, IN THIS WORLD THE ATTACKS, CRIMES, TORTURES DONE BY NATIONS LIKE USA AND OTHER SUPREME POWERS ARE INFINITE. ALL THOSE ARE GONE WORDLESS, NO BODY WANTS TO BLAME THEM OR CRITICISE THEM FOR THE TORTURE THEY GIVE, SOME STUPID PEOPLE IN PAKISTAN OR SOME COUNTRIES LIKE THT DOES SOME THING THTS ALL “MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE LIKE THAT ”
    ARE YOU TALKING SENSE,

    IN A HOUSE A PERSON IS GONE INSANE, HE DOES SOMETHIN REALLY HARMFULL TO THE COMMUNITY, DOES THT MEAN PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE HOUSE IS LIKE HIM….

    I KNOW IT REALLY HARD FOR YOU TO SIT PATIENTLY AND STUDY ABOUT THE THING YOU HATE THE MOST, THT IS ISLAM…..BUT ITS THE TRUTH….IT’LL BE KNOWN IN SPAN OF TIME…

    ALL WHAT IS SAID IN THE QUR’AN 1000’S OF YEARS AGO BY ALLAH, EVERYTHIN IS BEING SCIENTIFICALLY GETTING PROVED….THT IS ONE SIGN TO SHOW ISLAM IS THE TRUTH..EVEN THE LICKING OF FINGERS AFTER EATING, TO CIRCUMCISING OF THE PENIS, IS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVED….

    MY DEAR PEOPLE…ISLAM DOESNT FORCE ANYBODY TO COME ITS SIDE AND FOLLOW ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY, HE SAYS SO IN THE VERSE 3:256.

    so there it is if ALLAH SAYS NOT TO FORCE ANYONE INTO THE RELIGION, THEN WER DOES IT COME THE NECESSARY TO HARM OR KILL ANYBODY. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND. ISLAM THE WORD MEANS PEACE AND YOU SAY THT THE GOD OF THE PEOPLE OF THT RELIGION IS SATAN AND ALL, ISTHAGFIRULLAH………

    I REQUEST ONE AND ALL TO COME FORWARD TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ONES RELIGION AND THEN TO CHOOSE BY THEMSELVES BY THEIR OWN KNOWLEDGE THE RIGHT ONE…

    PEACE BE UPON YOU ALL……

  19. hashim says:

    ASSALAMU ALAIKUM (MAY PEACE BE UPON U)

    “ISLAM” the word itself signifies…peace in arabic…..then with what common sense is this comment being made by my friend….
    my friend MR.Dasa….do not catch up with the tip of problems….the verse which u gave is rit, but i donno, why, why have forgotten to write down the complete context the clearly mentions tht particular verse….

    my dear friends, tht verse is towards the end of the context indicating a particular period of war time during the early periods…. am no scholar in this field of comparitive argument or somethin whts goin ova here…
    but let me tell u humbly….
    i suggest one and all to read tht context with the pure explanations from the authorised…
    we all know the muslims all over the world are being kinda blacklisted as bad people…influenced by the media….

    do not trust anythin blindly…

    through out the world people say tht we muslims are to do JIHAD BY KILLING NON MUSLIMS AND CRAP LIKE THT…….

    ALLAH HAS ASKED US TO DO JIHAD BY STAYING AWAY FROM ALL THE EVILS OF THIS WORLD TO GAIN A SUCCESSFULL HERE AFTER….

    WE MUSLIMS START OUR CONVERSATION BY SAYIN ” PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY BE UPON U ”

    NEITHER CHRISTIANS NOR HINDUS ARE BLAMED AS TERRORISTS OR VIOLENT PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO…

    AUGUST 6TH IS FORGOTTEN
    GUJARAT IS FORGOTTEN

    BUT WHY ARE MUSLIMS BLAMED FOR WHT THEY HAVENT DONE….
    WHT DO PEOPLE BENEFIT FROM BLAMING A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY…

    EVERY ONE KNOWS THT THE THE SEPT 11 ATTACK WAS A CHEAT…..THE PLANE CUDNT JUS BRING DOWN SOMETHIN LIKE THT….

    WE ALL KNOW THT DYNAMITE WAS BLOWN IN THE UNDERGROUND….NO JEW WAS PRESENT THT DAY…AND ATLAST MUSLIM TERRORISTS….HUH….

    VERY FUNNY… LUKIN FOR ALL THE WAYS TO BLACK LIST A COMMUNITY….

    ONCE AGAIN TO ALL MY FRIENDS, ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT PEACE LIVING WITHOUT HARMING ANYTHIN IN THE UNIVERSE….ITS A VALID TRUTH….
    DO NOT BLINDLY LISTEN TO ANYTHIN…STUDY THE MATTER AND THEN THINK….U HAVE GOT BRAINS TO CHOOOSE AND NOT TO ARGUE…

    THE PARTICULAR VERSE MY FRIEND TOOK AND SHOWED UP THT ISLAM ASKS TO KILL NON BELEIVERS IS WRONG TO THE FARTHEST….

    ITS IN THE “SURAH THAUBAH”
    THAT IS THE CHAPTER NO. 9
    I HUMBLY REQUEST EVERYBODY, WHO MISUNDERSTANDS ISLAM FOR VIOLENCE, TO STUDY THIS CHAPTER TO THE FULLEST….
    U TAKE A STEP AND STUDY, NOTHIN TO LOOSE FOR ANYBODY
    JUS A POINT OF KNOWLEDGE AND PEACE,AND THE MISUNDERSTANDIN IS GONE….
    everybody is in peace…

    we know tht everythin in the world has a REASON (UNIVEERSAL TRUTH)
    SIMILARLY WE ARE CREATED BY THE GOD FOR A REASON, THT IS TO PRAY FOR HIM, FOR WHICH WILL BE REWARDED IN THE HERE AFTER….
    LIVE UR LIFE PEACEFULLY IN HERE AND MAKE THE HERE AFTER BLOSSOMED…
    KEEP AWAY FROM ALL EVILS AND SUPERSTITIONS…
    NO BODY SHOULD BE FORCED IN THEIR LIFE (THTS WHT ISLAM SAYS), THEY HAVE THE RIT TO CHOOSE, BUT NOT TO MAKE VIOLENCE……PEACE AND PATIENCE…IS ALL THT MATTERS….
    STUDY AND ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, RATHER THAN BELEIVING, IN ANYTHIN AND ANYBODY, BLINDLY….

    ASSALAMU ALAIKUM (MAY PEACE BE UPON U)

  20. Smeenk says:

    And what about Amitabha the Buddha of Infinite Light?

    I think this teaching transcends this discussion .

    I see lot of similarities between Krishna and Amitabha but that is only a feeling/thought after studying these things, meditating and experience no fanatic vibe.

    There is a buddhist text which says aeons and aeons ago a soul (which is now known as Amitabha) reached enlightment more information you can find on internet.

    I see a similarity between chanting the name Amitabha and Krishna (see Google) or repeating this name(mantra)

    I googled : The infinite Krishna and The Infinite Amitabha.

    I read that Buddha Shakyamuni himself meditated on the name of Amitabha and his Pure Land and also teached about this.

    I know that is said that some thousand years ago Krishna was on earth but according to some buddhist scriptures Amitabha was completely enlighted before that. Repeating the name Amitabha(there are chinese and japanese variants) will give you rebirth in the so called ‘ Pure Land’ which is above the cycle of birth and death.

    I think you cannot ignore this (Mahayana) Buddhist teaching in what we know on earth about this.

    Thousands, mayby millions of people are meditating (chanting) on the name of Amitabha

  21. Fasseeg says:

    Ambiarsa Dasa i feel you have a great deal of anger towards the muslims and this is not healthy for your preaching. you will only put up barriers rather than meet on common terms and love each other as Srila prabhupad has tought us.

    The verse that you quoted that u used to beat the muslims over the head with was actually revealed to muhammed at a time he was at war with the pagans. You see islam might believe in Allah, but remember this is the impersonal form of Krishna.. his advice has wisdom behind it. Remember when Krishna tells Arjuna to fight? and do you remember what was Krishna’s reasons?

    Allah clearly stipulates when to fight and when not to.. and if the enemy does not back down.. then the verse you quoted above applies.

    This is not terrorism, today muslim millitary groups in the east use these verses to justify their action with the retaliation against the onslaught of the west, but yet the millitant groups in the east (not the rest of the world) have committed offences in the aspect. and not to mention that some of them arent muslim 😐

    Im in support of bringing religions together rather that separating them.

    Jaya Shri Krishna and Shri Radha
    All glories to Shrila Prabhupada

    Hare krishna

    • neophyte says:

      Fasseeg,
      You have the voice of reason in this exchange of ideas. I too believe that Prabhupada would want us to ‘cooperate’ with those of other faiths, not condemn them. Once one has accepted the Supreme Knowledge of the Vedas, they do not require our arguments to defend them from other points of view. They are perfect, straight from the lips of the divine. When you see people of other faiths acting as ‘apologist’ and arguing on behalf of their beliefs, it shows that either, they have little understanding of their own scriptures, or, their scriptures are inferior to that of the timeless Vedas, or both. Prabhupada also reminds us that Lord Krishna does not require our belief or our faith in Him, He is independent of all things, so there is no need to fight battles with others to proof that He is supreme and above all others and that we are ‘right’.

  22. Fasseeg says:

    dear devotees on this website

    please do not post mean things to the muslims. Sri Prabhupada never advised this

    Gauranga. Be happy 🙂

  23. Fasseeg says:

    Im an ex muslim. i can relate completely with the information shared here. Krishna is not a man. He is the Supreme personality of Godhead. Muslims believe God cannot come to earth etc. Well actually God can do anything he he wants to. And if he wants to take the form of a man then he can do so. Actually when God takes the form of a man his form is not like ours. It is just a form so we dont freak our when we see him. His colour is not like ours, Krishna is dark bluish colour similar to that of a dark monsoon cloud. With his many appearances he made on earth he never reveals that he is God but only to his pure devotees. Krishna in the form of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu came 500 years ago and had a golden complexion. that is because he is Krishna and Radha and Rhadarani has a golden complexion.

    Yes Krishna has parents. Actually he has infinite parents. This is the nature of the highest heaven. Muslims call it Jannatul Firdous, Vaisnavas call it Goloka Vrindavan. when you die and take birth in the highest heaven you will find that nobody sees God as the Supreme. that everyone relates to him as a friend, brother, neighbor, guru, deciple, mother, father, child, etc. which ever way your heart desires to relate to Krishna, that is how it will be. and there for krishna has infinite mothers, fathers, etc.

    When Krishna took birth in the material world his birth was not like ours. He eminated from the heart of Devaki. He allowed this so that Devaki can do this service for krishna. There are many ways Krishna allows his devotees to do service for him. Mother yashoda is the mother of lord krishna as a service to Him. Krishna does not need a mother, but allows it so that people can relate to him. And to have a relationship so personal with the lord can surely melt the heart and maintain your love and devotion for the lord. God loves it when we do service for him.

    Krishna’s brother is not a biological brother, Balaram is actually an expansion of lord krishna. because that is the nature of God, he can expand himself infintely. Balaram played the role of his brother in many of his pastimes. When Krishna took the form of Lord Chaitanya 500 years ago, Balaram took the from of Lord Nityananda. They are both the same person and yet two different persons at the same time.

    other expansions of Sri Krishna are Vishnu, Nrishnimhadeva, Rhadarani, Lord Jagganath, even Buddha was an indirect expansion of the lord, and there are infinite expansions, such as the forms mentioned in the koran. This is the power of the lord. he can be many places at the same time.. for example, Krishna came to earth, but at the same time Krishna never leaves goloka Vrindavan.

    Krishna is the supreme personality above all other personalities. His name might consist of a bunch of material letters but the Vibration is Trancendental. chanting the name of the lord can increase your love for him.

    The Bhavisia Puranas (which forms part of Vedic scriptures) speaks about the coming of Muhammed and Jesus, and all the other prophets. in these stories Krishna doesnt take birth but sends empowered souls to do the tasks. which is great, because the vedas is not against islamic belief. My ever well wisher and guru Srila Prabhupada admired muslims. The Vedas brings religions together, where as in modern times religions separates people. The vedas says there will come a time when everyone will unite under one banner of faith, we will take shelter under the shadow of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

    Remember when God takes a form, he is not like us. And his forms are infinite. but there is one supreme form, and that is the form of Lord krishna. this is the Form he takes in goloka Vrindavan, the highest heaven. this is also where Muhammed went on the night of Miraj when he saw allah. i ask all muslims what did he see? Allah tells muhammed that there are somethings he should share with his umma and others that he shouldnt. And one thing muhammed held back was the form of the Supreme Lord. People were into idol worship those days and would thus see the lord as a person if they knew th lord has a form.

    what we as vaisnavas do is not idol worship, but deity worship. the deity is a mercy from Sri Krishna for us fallen souls who does not have the spiritual eye to see and comprehend the form of the lord. We are fallen souls, after we get liberated and take birth in the spiritual world, we will see Krishna in his true form.

    There arent separate religions but one faith with different methods of doing serivice for the Supreme personality. each religion worships a different potency of the lord, in a different way. well christianity is a different story since most believe jesus is god which both muslims and vaisnavas know is not true. anyway.. but you get my point.

    hope this summary of the Srimad Bhaggavatam helped a bit. this portion of the vedic scriptures consists of volumes and volumes of books just to describe the nature of the Lord and was written by an expansion of Lord Krishna. Please make a point of reading it.

    For more infomation visit http://www.krishna.com/node/905

    All Glories to Sri Sri Rhadha and Krishna
    All Glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga

    • rohini bhatia says:

      This is absolute truth. Both the Krishna devotees and the Muslims worship the same lord…. Though they most of them don know.. All glories to srila prabhupad for giving us this understanding.. All glories to Mohammad sallallahu illahe wassalam.. And all glories to Sri guru and gauranga..

  24. raj says:

    Allah is nearer than our jugular vein.( Quran)

    Compare with this,

    ” The Paramathma( Supersoul) exists both internally and externally, in the moving and nonmoving. He is beyond the power of the material senses to see or to know. Although far, far away, He is also near to all. ”

  25. raj says:

    In the prayers of Kunti in the Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.8.18) it is said that the Lord is covered by the curtain of yoga-maya and thus ordinary people cannot understand Him. Kunti prays: “O my Lord, You are the maintainer of the entire universe, and devotional service to You is the highest religious principle. Therefore, I pray that You will also maintain me. Your transcendental form is covered by the yoga-maya. The brahmajyoti is the covering of the internal potency. May You kindly remove this glowing effulgence that impedes my seeing Your sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, Your eternal form of bliss and knowledge.”

    “Visnu is one, and yet He is certainly all-pervading. By His inconceivable potency, in spite of His one form, He is present everywhere. As the sun, He appears in many places at once.”

    So although being one without a second the very same transcendental personality appears in the innumerable hearts as many just as one sun appears in many places at once. He is able to do this by dint of His inconcievable potency and since His personality is beyond space and time He can expand Himself into another form and yet remain the same person manifested differently in various forms:

  26. raj says:

    Actually the concept of God in Quran has been copied/plagiarized from many sources including Githa.You can find in quran stories/events already explained in Buddhist and Zoroastrian texts..
    Muhammad did a wide scope of plagiarization from numerous religious sources,thats why we see the description of Allah resembles Lord Krsna.
    The Quran teaches ” you should not have sex with your mother” .
    This clearly proves that the islamist claim Quran is for the entire humanity is an absolute lie,unless if the entire globe population undergoes a biological evolution so as to have intimacy with one’s own mother !

  27. Ambiarsa Dasa says:

    Allah tells people to kill cows and eat beef in the Quran Surah 16:5

    Here is the proof below in the link

    http://www.quran.com/16/5

    Yeah Krishna (Govinda) is Allah. Govinda must mean killer of cows if Krishna is Allah because Allah tells people to eat the meat of cows which is the worst imaginable sin. Anyone who demands people eat cows must be Satan the Devil. Therefore Allah is not Krishna but Satan.

    • shaik says:

      assalamalekum
      Ambiarsa Dasa

      the problem is you dont understand what i said.

      how can you say that killing and eating other animals instead cow is OK.

      i said that animals which are meant for food can be used for food and what quran said it is not specially cow, you got my point?

      you said killing other animals is less sin than killing cow ,think once for yourself (you said less sin,SIN IS A SIN THERE IS NO LESS OR MORE SIN)

      for example if you would be in a county where vegetation is less then what do u do dont u depend on other animals.

      you must know that boiler hens are only for their meat they cant give eggs.

      and again u didnt read my previous answer that cows feel pain when we collect milk and all of us are using milk in our daily life.

      if you say that is also sin i dont drink milk that is meaningless

      may allah forgive all u r sins and guide u to right path.

      allah hafiz

      • alam ahmed jaan says:

        my bro… very nice question i m muslim but u said plant has life yes it is but they do not have feelings
        another point is in hinduism it is never said u should be vegeterian actually it is for vaishnavism also onion and garlics ae not alowed to vaishnav….u mustread ayurveda veda no4 by lorddhavantari (lord krishna another form)where many medicines are from meat and bones of different animals……
        and cow in india consider sacred because we drink milk frm cow….she is one of 7 mother of human being as per hinduism
        i strongly beleive in allah and krishna too…..krishna never says worship me he simply says perform your duty.. thts why like krishna teaching he teaches that duties are also given by same god. so one must be faithful towards his duty and even pray to him for a second…..hare krishna!!!!and also u should visit jwala ji temple and look at ramsetu stones which floats on water and also see sita kund…..

    • Chris Adams says:

      Hare Krishna! “And the grazing livestock He has created for you; in them is warmth and [numerous] benefits, and from them you eat”. This is the verse you were referring to and it doesn’t say anything about killing and eating the meat. It says from them you can eat. Lots of food accepted by Krishna is from the cow. Milk, cheese, and many more. Thank you.

      • alam ahmed jaan says:

        my bro… very nice question i m muslim but u said plant has life yes it is but they do not have feelings
        another point is in hinduism it is never said u should be vegeterian actually it is for vaishnavism also onion and garlics ae not alowed to vaishnav….u mustread ayurveda veda no4 by lorddhavantari (lord krishna another form)where many medicines are from meat and bones of different animals……
        and cow in india consider sacred because we drink milk frm cow….she is one of 7 mother of human being as per hinduism
        i strongly beleive in allah and krishna too…..krishna never says worship me he simply says perform your duty.. thts why like krishna teaching he teaches that duties are also given by same god. so one must be faithful towards his duty
        another question is what if i ask i want your mother meat i am hungry… wat r u feelin now same feels to hindus because as per vedas they consider cow as mother and sacred and plants does not has same feelings the can not feel pain and also when u kill hen, cow do you think how their child feels in hinduism i knw meat is permitted as it is offered to kaali maa but i m muslim and only have meat when it is too necessary that is on bakr id even if hinduism it is allowed now here is reason why meat is not allowed to vaishnavs
        Every living being has a specific purpose for its existence. The purpose, definitely, is other than being killed and eaten by others. In the Bhagavad Gita Lord Krishna says sarva-yonishu kaunteya (BG, 14.4): That means even in the animals there is a soul, so we do not have the right to kill or eat flesh. Just as there are government laws, so there are laws of nature, or God Laws. If we kill then that binds us to Karma, and we will get the reaction. The analogy of Karma means ‘To every action there is an equal opposite reaction’. So either we do good or bad karma, we are still binding ourselves more to this material world. Also just by seeing a meat dish on your plate does not mean everything is ok, there has been so much violence gone into it before you see the finishing product. Krishna says that every living creature is Son of God (aham bija-pradah pita – BG, 14.4), so we do not have the right to kill anyone. If we do not have the right to give life to a living creature we also do not have the right to kill them unnecessarily. A Devotee is full of compassion and he cannot see anyone suffer, even the animals.

  28. Ambiarsa Dasa says:

    Hare Krishna!
    All Glories to Shrilla Prabhuphada!
    As you can see it is a terrible sin to call Krishna and Allah the same person. Allah condones Cow slaughter as is seen in Surah (Chapter) 16:5 which is the greatest sin and can only be condoned by the Devil. Krishna is known as Govinda which means lover of the cows. Cows are the most spiritual and intimate animals and Krishna loves them. Krishna does not condone any animal slaughter and cow slaughter is the greatest sin of all animal slaughter. Before Krishna.org publishes these articles I think they should first try to understand the implications of what they are saying. Krishna will not accept the sacrifice of any meat, and most assuredly not cows. Shrilla Prabhuphada has said that Krishna does not accept meat ever period! But he does say that the Vedas were made for all classes of people so that the Sinful Rakshas and Yavanas, and Demons who do eat meat can do so by sacrificing their meat to the Demigod Kali. Shrilla Prabhuphada said this, that if a sinful person cannot give up meat he is advised to worship Kali because Krishna will not accept this. Since in Islam all meat has to be invoked in the name of Allah in order for it to be Hallal, we know that Allah can’t be Krishna because you cannot give meat to Krishna. So maybe Alllah can be the demigod Kali, but not Krishna. Kali is not Krishna but a mere demigod and servant of Krishna. So Allah is not Krishna. Please tell me why any sane Krishna Conscious person would ever even think Allah is Krishna after reading what I have just wrote which are from the teachings of Shrilla Prabhuphada. And besides this Shrilla Prabhuphada never advocated meat eating and said it is advised for meat eaters to eat lesser animals if they can’t give up their sins. But never is it advised to eat cows like the Quran says. Even Kali won’t accept this. You can sacrifice a goat to Kali, but not a Cow, the most sacred animal! Thus Allah is just a Devil! Krishna said in the Age of Kali-Yuga there would be many demoniac religions which most of the population of the world will take to. Kali Yuga started on 3102 BC so Islam definitely fits as a Kali-Yugan religion. Shrilla Prabhuphada described it as the religion of the Yavanas.
    Hare Krishna!

    • shaik says:

      asslaamalekum

      Ambiarsa Dasa

      1. u said that we can kill any smallerr animal but not the cow ,how can u say that when Hinduism say that all living beings are ssame.
      2.in islam it is not there that eating meat is compulsory,it depends on the place what u can get.
      3.u should know that plants also have life and soul then what do u eat (veg or non veg).
      4. do u know our teeth are capable of chewing both veg and nonveg.
      5. if u eat meat it can be digested,but if we eat grass or plant we cant digest it(got my point).
      6.u said that krishna is the only god then why the whole hindus are confused of god,some say siva is god,some brahma etc.who is god in hinduism.
      7.if the all are not gods then why there is a quarrel between devotees of vishnu and siva in ancient hindu scripts.
      8.do u know Shrilla Prabhuphada started his organisation in USA.what happene in india of 900 million hindus?
      9.u compared allah as devil,in quran allah never said to kill others ,it is there to harm people who wanna harm u. u cant blame islam because some of muslims are doing the nonsense things.
      10.u said that kali is a servent of krishna , if krishna is a god then i dont think that god allow demigod to accept sacrifice.
      11. that is called ecological balance.u see if all animals are left with out killing (even they are ment to for food) then their population will be far greater that the worlds population.

      if u want to know a religion dont see what the people of the religion do(some may be wrong) simply reed the books(that may be any religion) and accept the best.

      after reading this if U have any doubts please read holy quan.

      may allah forgive all u r sins and guide u to right path.

      like to hear from u

      allah hafiz

      • raj says:

        dear Hafiz..The right path has already been explained in the Githa.
        i advise you the same,..
        ” if u want to know a religion dont see what the people of the religion do(some may be wrong) simply reed the books(that may be any religion) and accept the best.”
        You must understand that quran is not designed for the entire humanity .
        You may recommend it for the prisonners,criminals etc.
        Our flat teeth are perfect for grinding grains and vegetables,not for tearing apart animal flesh.Similarly our hands are designed for gathering and not for flesh ripping.Our saliva contains the enzyme alpha amylase,which functions to digest only complex carbohydrate of plants..this enzyme is not found in the enzymes of carnivores,basically we all have the right apparatus to digest vegetables but not for the sinful meat..
        Awake.realize the true religion

      • raj says:

        Pound for pound, beef production generates greenhouse gases that contribute more than 13 times as much to global warming as do the gases emitted from producing chicken. For potatoes, the multiplier is 57.

        Beef consumption is rising rapidly, both as population increases and as people eat more meat.

        Producing the annual beef diet of the average American emits as much greenhouse gas as a car driven more than 1,800 miles.
        Read more about the evil of meat eating.( Crime against Creation)

        http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-greenhouse-hamburger

        How Meat Contributes to Global Warming ( Preview )
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        • anil says:

          Guys do not get confused & and do not make confuse other.. insted Make stage and call YOUR respective RELIGIOUS SCHOLER and MAKE DEBATE … and let people find the TRuth,

  29. pravin says:

    krishna and allha are same person?

  30. indu says:

    hi madhuvisa Hare Krishna.

    just wanted to say that it is better to turn to the demigods for material boons, cause Krishna will never give you any material boons if you worship Him.

    • Hare Krishna Indu

      Krishna will give whatever you want if you worship Him.

      The demigods can not give you anything unless Krishna authorizes it.

      So whatever you want it is better to ask Krishna for it. That is the most intelligent thing to do. The worshippers of the demigods are fools.

      • neophyte says:

        Madhudvisa-dasa,
        Perhaps or friend Inu, in the comment above, is speaking about Krishna not wanting us to become more materially entangled by not sending us more illusory wealth and material things to keep us from being to attracted to material things? His Divine grace writes in his introduction to the Gita

        “The problems of material existence-birth, old age, disease and death-cannot be counteracted by accumulation of wealth and economic development. In many parts of the world there are states which are replete with all facilities of life, which are full of wealth, and economically developed, yet the problems of material existence are still present.”

  31. krishna says:

    Who is the main God different people says about the God some people says allah is the main God some are telling Krishna is the main God and othere are telling other but krishna is the main god allah krishna ram Jesus and other are the forms of the krishna krishna came in the world different different forms . He is the main god amd he is the pure god we are also the form of the krishna . krishna is the absulate truth.

    • Hare Krishna! God is one person. People call Him by different names but they are calling out to the same person. It is the same Krishna that the Christians are calling “God” and the Muslims are calling “Allah.” So it is the same absolute truth.

      It is not that worshipping Krishna is worshipping the Absolute Truth and worshipping the God that Jesus is speaking of is not. No. Worshiping the God of the Bible is worshipping Krishna, the same God, the same Absloute Truth.

      In India the people know about demigods like Durga, Kali, Indra, Chandra, Brahma, etc., and some people are worshipping these demigods. But these demigods are not Krishna, they are individual spirit souls like you or me but they are very advanced and have been elevated to positions of great responsibility within the universe.

      These demigods are in charge of various departments of the material world and, with the sanction of Krishna, they can give their worshippers benedictions limited to their area of responsibility or power in the material world. That is why it is sometimes said in India there are 33 million gods and for a particular purpose the people select a particular god to worship to get that benediction. And this is done in India by less intelligent people who do not realize that ultimately all these demigods are subordinate to Krishna and the demigods can not give their followers any benedictions unless they are sanctioned by Krishna. Actually any benediction that can be had from the demigods can be had from Krishna directly.

      In Bhagavad Gita Krishna criticises the demigod worshippers and says they have “little intelligence.” Because they can not see that whatever they want they can get it by worshipping Krishna, but instead they go through all these difficult worship processes to satisfy demigods who have very little power and only have power to give material benedictions within the material world and who can never give one liberation from the material world because the demigods themselves are also conditioned souls trapped within the material world.

      From Srila Prabhupada’s Introduction to Bhagavad Gita As It Is:
      “Those whose minds are distorted by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.” (Bg. 7.20) Here it is plainly said that those who are directed by lust worship the demigods and not the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṇa. When we mention the name Kṛṣṇa, we do not refer to any sectarian name. Kṛṣṇa means the highest pleasure, and it is confirmed that the Supreme Lord is the reservoir or storehouse of all pleasure. We are all hankering after pleasure. Ānandamayo ‘bhyāsāt. (Vs. 1.1.12) The living entities, like the Lord, are full of consciousness, and they are after happiness. The Lord is perpetually happy, and if the living entities associate with the Lord, cooperate with Him and take part in His association, then they also become happy.

  32. Jim Schwartz says:

    Allah, Jehovah, et al, are not the same as Krishna!

    Allah was a lunar deity.

    Jehovah was a desert deity.

    Both claim to be the Supreme. They are imposters, bragging about how jealous or violent they are.

    But Krishna is Svayam Bhagavan, beyond “God”, beyond the “Godhead”.

    Anyone can claim to be God, but there are imposters.

    • sadmim hossain says:

      yes you are right .. Allah Jehovah Yahweh etc all means the lord the God almighty . the Lord whose form is not known to us… but krishna was not that .Allah is never krishna. sree krishna is a human. may be with special powers but not Allah. man may have magical powers but never becomes the god almighty. if human with such powers can turn human into a God then almost all the prophets all Allah are God(naujubillah).

      • raj says:

        Dear Sadmim..
        Lord’s form is not known to us ?? Why ? because we are sinners !
        Sree Krishna was not a human,He was the direct manifestation of God the Creator. !!
        Adam was normal human being,how was He able to see God ?
        Didnt you read from Sahih Islam and Bukhari that God made Adam in His own Form.
        Dont you know from the Quran that God has eyes,hand,face,personality etc etc..
        Your knowledge is poor .and thats why you say Krsna is not God..
        While displaying past time on Earth.,He is simultaneously present in the heart of all living beings as the Paramathma( Super Soul ) .This Supersoul is always guiding us to the right path ,but when we eat meat from animal our judgement and guidances are swayed..He,Krsna is also simultaneously present in the Highest heaven ..God is Omnipresent ( Quran teaches you this)..
        Therefore its not surprising that you are unable to understand Krsna is God.
        Quran advises, ” Man should not have sex with one’s mother” .
        Quran is a simplified cathechism for the fallen arabic bedouins,dont expect it to carry the ultimate truth !!
        And Krsna was never a prophet,He is God Himself.

        • sadmim hossain says:

          bismillah…rabbis rahli sadi wa yassirli amri wah lul uqdatan millisani yaf qahu qauli.
          dear brother raj.i am happy that at least one answered me and gave me a chance to speak.you may be true that i may not have a great knowledge. but alhamdulillah i have at least the knowledge the to understand what is truth &what is false.
          lets come to the point .you said that krishna is the cherisher .Allah sais in the Quran:praise to be Allah, the cherisher & sustainer of the worlds)
          (Quran:1:1)
          for your question about Adam(as)in the form of Allah.log here: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547284
          you said that Allah got eyes,hands,face etc.yes its true.in the noble Quran we can see that .but dose those need to be like ours.look at lion it got 4 feet, human 2 feet,duck(n other birds) 2 feet.but none match with each other.
          now please tell me how you will answer these questions.may be i am a sinner.i tell you i am no holy man. every man sinned.and also krishna.
          look at your scriptures:
          “Ekam evadvitiyam”
          “He is One only without a second.”
          [Chandogya Upanishads 6:2:1]
          Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah.”
          “Of Him there are neither parents nor lord.”
          [Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]
          “Na tasya pratima asti”
          “There is no likeness of Him.”
          [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]
          “Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam.”

          “His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]
          na tasya pratima asti
          “There is no image of Him.”[Yajurveda 32:3]
          “shudhama poapvidham”
          “He is bodyless and pure.[Yajurveda 40:8]
          “Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata”
          “O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone.” [Rigveda 8:1:1]
          “Na tasya pratima asti”
          “There is no likeness of Him”Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.
          “Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.”
          [Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
          (God is omnipresent) i think your great knowledge did not understood that Allah is not every where but he sees and hears all.(Quran:42:11).you may say in the quran or ahadith you can find about that God is here or there,well it means God is hearing and seeing you like he is there,in spiritually not physically.like think you are in UK but using Google earth u can c in India or Bangladesh live.but ur need not to be in India or B.desh. when a man can do it whit the help of science why Allah cant do it(He need not any Google/or internet or any thing or other persons help)He is the most powerful of all.
          you said that krishna was there when there was nothing.but according to hinduism there were 3 gods at that time. they are Brahma ,Vishnu,shiv,their power are same.krishna is known as a mighty incarnation of vishnu.here u’ll c Krishna is the most mighty but another place u will c the Brahma again another place shiv.again u’ll c none of them are the most powerful. in the sri sri chandi it is durga who was there when there was nothing.so who was 1st durga or the 3 shaktis(Brahma,shiv,Vishnu).
          i will b waiting 4ur answer.you say Quran cant carry the ultimate truth.for your great knowledge a small information Quran was not reviled to any Bedouin but the whole world. Muhammad(sa) was born in the highest and(very much like)the royal family of Arab. Allah says in the Quran”This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear God; “(Quran:2:2)
          again Allah said:”No falsehood can approach it(Quran) from before or behind it: It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.” (Quran:41:42)
          again:”That which We have revealed to thee of the Book is the Truth,- confirming what was (revealed) before it: for God is assuredly- with respect to His Servants – well acquainted and Fully Observant.”(Quran:35:31).so i think you got the answers.
          wa akirudawa al hamdulillahi rabiil alamin.

          • raj says:

            Dear

            I did saw the link which you had posted.Allah is like nobody but at the same time sahih islam explains that Allah made Adam in His own shape.
            You are ignorant of the fact that this is a material world which is dying and decaying everyday,Vedas teach that it is direct reflection of the spiritual world whic is glowing every moment and does not decay..
            This is logic..
            Even in the quran,,..is is explained that Allah uses throne,has eyes,has face,hands.
            And Also it has been said that Jesus sits in the right hand side of Allah.Therefore..,
            What takes it very difficult for you to accept that the forms and shapes which we all have are the templates of the Grand Copy up there in the Heaven known as the Supreme God.
            This show that your knowledge and thinkings are too restricted .
            Yes its true in the Quran its explained that “Allah is none like anyone ”
            For example..if Mr.A is genious,brave,handsome,richest,healthiest..
            therefore its logic to say he ( Mr X ) is like nobody,because he is specially gifted and outstanding !!
            If i say Mr.X is like nobody..does it mean that his look and appearance are unknown and does not resembles human ??
            Surely you yourself will not agree.. !!
            Same concept here- no any life form on earth is like the great MahaVishnu ( the immediate expansion of Krsna) .
            His one tiny skin pore is much larger than the size of a universe.Vedas teach that multiple universes appear from His body ( skin holes ).
            Later cosmologist prove that universes appear from white holes and absorbed back into “Black holes”.
            Therefore what the Quran and Bible teach that God made Adam in His own form is the Truth.
            God has the original form,ours are duplicate or degraded..
            Thats what meant by ” Nobody is Like Allah”.
            And Quran didnt say that Allah and human are of different shape and form. !!!!!!!!!!!
            Realize the Absolute Truth ( sanathana dharma) and open your eyes and heart.

          • sadmim hossain says:

            Bismillah… rabbis rahli sadri wa wassirli amri wahlul wkdatam milliani wafqahu qauli…..
            Dear raj,
            I am sure that you have n’t seen the link seriously .if you would have then you won’t write about this… it is clearly written that the Hadith that says Allah created Adam (as) in his shape is very weak… that means it’s not sahih Hadith… you said my knowledge is restricted (bla bla bla)…. You don’t know the knowledge that my Lord gave me nighter you know the knowledge that is given to you what we can is just argue and it’s not our main fact so keep that a side.
            I totally agree with you with the logic of Mr. X for sake of argument. But you or I are not God and He is different from us.
            You said that in the noble Quran Allah have hands, eyes and face. Show me where did I say that He has not got.
            And you said, “Jesus (as) sits in the right hand side of Allah.” First of all it’s not from the holy Quran. It’s from the bible.
            It’s written in the gospel of mark: 16:19. But do you know that bible is corrupted. We Muslims believe that. Then you may say why you muslins say that bible is the word of Allah? Bible is not the word that was reveled. But those facts that are closer to Islam are closer to the truth because the followers (Jews and Christians) have changed it for their benefit of this world not for the hereafter. Secondly if you really want to believe in this verse I won’t say not to believe because it’s not one of them. (As per as I know). But most of the people mistakes to realize the original meaning like you did. The writer did not show him sitting there. The original meaning is that “he was one of the righteous person and one of the special person to Allah”.
            You said about the example of Mr. X. now here listen, Allah does not look like us. Previously I told you lions, birds, man all got feet, faces and bodies. But none match with others.
            The Hadith you told me that was, “God created Adam (as) in his own image”. Look carefully it’s his not His. Most of the translators mistook to translate the Hadith. The meaning of the Hadith is Adam (as) was created as an adult not as a child. But most of people will say that it’s His. If you say so then to reply the question the scholars say “if it really is “His” by the meaning of image is not the exactly the same because Allah said that “there is nothing like Him”. So it the meaning will be ‘the attributes of Allah’”. This means Allah gave Adam (as) the attributes of Him not His image (because there is none like Him; image, beauty, wealth, health anything). He is not like us. Now how does Allah look? The only answer is: Allah knows best.
            You may say the bible also teaches that Adam (as) is made in the image of Allah. Yes in the book of Genesis: 1: 27. That says so “God created human beings, making them to be like himself. He created male and female,” . Now you may say that see it is what I said. Your reply is given in the previous verse. “Then God said, “And now we will make human beings; they will be like us. They will have power over the fish, the birds, and all animals, domestic and wild, large and small.””.
            Here you can easily see that like “Us” or “like God” means the attributes not the image.
            And if you look carefully you will find that it’s written “like himself” not “like Himself”
            You said that Quran didn’t say that Allah & human are of different shape & form!!!!!!
            Yes as per as I know He did not nighter He did say that He and we have the same form and shape.
            Realize the Absolute truth (Sanatan Dharma; the absolute religion which is Islam) open your eyes & heart. May Allah show you the true path, the path of Islam. (Amen). Wa akhiruddawa alhamdulillahir rabbil alameen…

          • Yashodanandan das says:

            My dear friend Islam is not the Absolute Truth or Sanatana Dharama. Sanatana dharama means , one which was always there , which is there , and will always be there.
            If you say Islam is Sanatana why was it born only 1400 years ago ??? Sanatana means eternal. It means , not only without end , but also withou a begining. How can a thing which has a begining can have no end !
            Islam can NEVER be Sanatana dharma because it was born because of time , place and circumstance 1400 years ago !
            Sanatana Dharma is like an infinite ocean in which other so called religions are born , stay for sometime and then die like bubbles…
            Only argument does not help. Realisation of the Absolute Truth by spiritual practise is the most important. That is the unique charecteristic of Sanatana Dharma.
            There is only one God Krishna and one Sanatana Dharama. Rest are called “aabhaas-dharma”(fictitious dharma).This is written in Srimad Bagavatam which was written about 3600 years before Islam was born. So you cannot say that we are targetting your Islam. No. Everyone’s got to get their facts right for their own good.
            Hare Krishna.

          • Azeem says:

            Masha’allah. These Hari’s are funny but are very nice people.

          • sumit raizada says:

            he cant be seen from eyes but certainly by going out of the senses that is what guru nanak dev ji achieved. he called god nikrankar(formless) which muslims call allah. if god wants to do anything he can do anything, he can take birth or die and yet be god simply because he is supreme.u cant challenge his supermacy by saying that he cant do this and that if u believe he is supreme and all powerful, almighty.

      • Prathish says:

        Krishna is the only God or even God beyond Godhead,matter and time.Whatever form of worship , be with flower, water, fire or tree, attributed to the all knowing and pervading Shree Krishna, the good Lord Shri Krishna will accept.

        You can call krishna a friend, a brother,a bestower, a benedictor. If you call him truly from heart, he will surely come to you

        Sarva Dharmam Parityagja mam ekam Sharanam Vraja. (Bhagavad Gita)

        Abandon all form of religion and surrender to almighty shri Krishna, He will deliver from all sins and elevate you to his kingdom beyond the seven heavens.

        Hari Naam , Hari Naam Hari Naam kevalam, Kulau Nasti eti nasti, nasti eva gatir anyata.

        There is no other go in this kali yuga than to chant the holy name of Hari or shri krishna..

      • LOVEKESH KUMAR BATHRI says:

        ‘Little Knowledge is a Dangerous thing’..

        We must go through all Religious scriptures and then jump into the Conclusion about God haed..

        My Friend I would like to suggest you to first read as well as understand the Holy Srimat Bhagwatam.

        then only The Supreme lord ,Krishna can be understood.

        best of luck
        God bless you.

      • chand datwani says:

        Allah/God/Brahman are infinity, ie formless but the ultimate.

        Any entity with form cant be infinite so cant be called Allah/God or Brahman.

        Religions are finite as such propogate finite ideas as such are not ultimate.

        The ultimate is only one like a rose by any other name is still a rose.

        We humans are all part of Allah/God/Brahman no matter color, gender, religion so live and let live with love is the ultimate message for all from the ultimate infinity.

        • So you are greater than Allah/God/Brahman. Because you have form and God can not have form?

          This is insanity. God has everything. We can not have something that god does not have. So we have form. And as the Christians know we are made in the image of God. So God has form and our form is based on His form…

    • Owais says:

      You silly jew. Just because we follow a lunar calendar, Allah is a moon god? Where do you even get this notion from?


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