Our Opinion on Homosexuality?
April 19, 2009 by Madhudvisa dasa
Filed under Society
A devotee of Krishna does not try to satisfy his own senses, he tries to satisfy Krishna’s senses. We understand that Krishna is the source of everything and that everyone is part and parcel of Krishna, so if we satisfy Krishna everyone, including ourselves, will be satisfied.
> i just want your opinion about Homosexuality?
> Thanks John
Dear John
Hello, Hare Krishna!!
We do not have our own opinion, we have to present the knowledge as it is coming down from Krishna through our spiritual master His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
We have a rather revolutionary understanding, that is everything belongs to Krishna [God] and everything, including our bodies, should be used in the service of Krishna, for Krishna’s pleasure.
A devotee of Krishna does not try to satisfy his own senses, he tries to satisfy Krishna’s senses. We understand that Krishna is the source of everything and that everyone is part and parcel of Krishna, so if we satisfy Krishna everyone, including ourselves, will be satisfied. It is like watering a tree. If you want to nourish the whole tree, all the branches, leaves, flowers, etc., you simply supply water to the root of the tree and the entire tree is satisfied. So if we simply satisfy Krishna, the root of the entire creation, then everyone, including ourselves, will be satisfied.
On the other hand, if we try to satisfy ourselves without any connection with Krishna by sex and other things we will never actually be satisfied. This type of sense gratification is like putting fuel into a fire. The fire simply burns even more and requires even more fuel to maintain it… So having sex is not at all satisfying, one simply wants more and more sex and even if he gets it he is still not satisfied and the results are actually very bad. There are so many diseases and a man looses his energy, strength and determination if he looses too much semen.
Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita that He is sex according to religious principles. So that sex, within marriage for having a nice Krishna conscious child, is very good. But otherwise sex, be it homosexual or hetrosexual is simply meant for the pleasure of the senses of the people involved. It is not being done for the service and pleasure of Krishna. So it is not allowed in Krishna consciousness.
In Krishna consciousness sex is for having nice God conscious children and such sex is Krishna Himself and is very glorious. But other sex is illicit sex and it is prohibited for a devotee. At the time of initiation a devotee has to accept vows including “no illicit sex” which that means no sex except within marriage for having children. It seems to some to be an almost impossible task as we are so attached to sex and think it is so important… But a devotee experiences a higher taste, a greater pleasure. A devotee fully engaged in Krishna consciousness under the direction of a bona fide pure devotee spiritual master is constantly enjoying a greater pleasure than sex from serving Krishna. So for him sex is not a very important thing at all.
Of course the sex desire is very strong and many devotees have fallen down from spiritual life because of it. But even if there is a fall down one can continue seriously in Krishna consciousness and soon all the desires for sex will disappear and we will be floating in ocean of transcendental bliss that is Krishna consciousness….
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
It seems like your opinion of homosexuality is the same opinion on everything else. Basically there’s no distinction, or any cause for it.
My lover was a Hare Krishna. He loved God and his method was through Krishna.
I loved him dearly and my method to God was through Christ.
Our spirituality was stronger than “mere mortals” or “human beings”. Our love was bonded by GOD. We both had different paths, but at the end we both were devotees of God first and foremost.
We always said, God is #1, our parents our#2, and we are #3.
My lover Milan is now in heaven with God and his guru Krishna. But he taught me much about love for God and that it does not matter which route we take, as long as it is GOD.
And my lover also taught me that it does not matter what “mere man” says or thinks, all that matters is your love for GOD and your spirituality will be stronger.
NEVER let mere man tell you how you should worship GOD.
Love to all.
Hey, FunMe,
My own life partner is a Christian, and he’s done a lot to show me Lord Jesus and all the wonderful things He is. My focus primarily is Krishna, the Father, but Srila Prabhupada said once that if we don’t know the son, our understanding of the father is incomplete, and Jude was more than happy to show me the son.
I agree with you fully, God truly DOES come first, and all He craves of us is that relationship, and anyone can have that relationship.
You said that in Krishna Consciousness only sex for conceiving a child is allowed. I was wondering, is my union with my husband still blessed if we make love not just for babies or pleasure, but because I love him. Is sex purely as an expression of love acceptable?
No. Sex is only permitted for having children.
Sex for love is a big problem. Because it means at the time of having sex you are not wanting a child. It is simply for selfish pleasure. And if a child results from that sex, which happens many times, no matter what precautions you may take, that child will be vana sankara, an “unwanted child” and you will murder him with an abortion or if he is born he will not develop properly because he was unwanted at the time of conception.
It is a misunderstanding. There is no such thing as sex which is blessed or sacred with your husband or wife if that sex is not for the purpose of bringing a nice child into the world. That is the purpose of sex. And any other use of it is illicit sex and is sinful and will only have very inauspicious results.
The idea is to do everything for the pleasure of Krishna….